Far Cry 3: So close, yet so far.

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Zhukov

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[sub][sub](It took an act of will to resist calling this thread "So close, yet so Far Cry 3".)[/sub][/sub]

Far Cry 3 can basically be summed up as "what you would get if The Elder Scrolls was a shooter on a pacific island." You have a great big wide open island with tons of sidequests and challenges and main story missions if you really must. You are given some guns and then you jog across the land shooting everything that looks at you funny.

It's a kind of antithesis to those linear corridor shooters you always hear people complaining about. You are free to choose you objectives and your approach. You can hunt animals with a bow, silently stalk enemies with a knife, or charge around with a machine gun and flamethrower.

The world is lively and colourful. It's the only open world game I can remember where I avoid fast-traveling everywhere because traversing the map can be interesting in its own right.

That's the "so close" part. Now for the "yet so far".

The story is shit. You run around rescuing your non-character friends (they each get literally five seconds of screen time before being kidnapped) while a bunch of numbskulls yammer on about "the path of the warrior" with painfully straight faces. It plays out like a movie made by a pack of LARPers armed with a video camera. It is however somewhat redeemed by the fact that you get to meet some very fun and colourful characters along the way. Yes, Vaas, the "definition of insanity" guy, is a complete riot.

Despite being a FPS, they decided to go with a talking protagonist. Cool with me. Sadly, they also made him sound like the biggest pussy in history. Don't ask me how, but he manages to come across as a complete wet towel even as he guns down pirates with one hand and wrestles a shark with the other.

The game is piss easy. Yes, even on the hardest settings. And that's coming from someone who really isn't particularly good at games. If you've ever played a FPS before then you will blow through FC3 with one hand tied behind your back. The vast majority of enemies present little more than an annoyance and you essentially have endless health kits. (When you run out of kits, you can still heal, it just takes a second longer.)

The map design suffers from the same problem as most open world games. In order to produce a huge explorable area the designers are forced to spread their attention painfully thin. As a result, nothing feels crafted or unique. It all just feel the same, endless iterations on the same few trees, shrubs and tin shacks rearranged in slightly different but equally forgettable ways.

The weapons are, well... the exact same weapons you see every where else. A few pistols that go "pop pop". A bunch of SMGs/LMGs/ARs that spray bullets at whatever you point them at. A couple of shotguns, a couple of sniper rifles... blah-de-blah. Neither interesting, inventive or particularly satisfying to use. The only notable standout is the flamethrower.

Coupled with the dull weapons is a complete dearth of enemy variety. You have animals that try to bite you and guys in red shirts that try to shoot you. That's it. Bugger all variation in behaviour or abilities.

Thus we come to the game's big weakness. For all its openness and options, you spend half your time shooting a boring weapon at a guy in a red shirt or an animal trying to bite you. The other half is spent travelling to specific locations so when you get there you can shoot guys in red shirts or animals trying to bite you.

Far Cry 3, I want to love you, but you're a one trick pony and it's a trick we've all seen a thousand times before.
 

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as much as I hate people who use other peoples opinions to confirm their own presumptions...

It seems that FC3 suffers from a lot of what made FC2 unenjoyable for me
 

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the opinions on far cry 3 are so polarizing that i cannot decide whether i will like it or not.
the story needs to be good, gameplay varied and characters interesting for me to like it.
is there a playable demo for the pc or something before i decide ?
and whats with the uplay thing that comes free with far cry 3 pc version.
is it the same crap that was with assassins creed 2 pc?
because rock paper shotgun recently blasted ubisoft for implementing uplay in far cry 3 which was so obstrusive and lead to multiple crashes, cannot connect to servers and lost save files.
pretty much kills the game for me
 

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Zhukov said:
[sub][sub](It took an act of will to resist calling this thread "So close, yet so Far Cry 3".)[/sub][/sub]
Why would you resist an opportunity like that?

Anyway, it sounds like Far Cry 2, but with more open world. I liked Far Cry 2, it was a fun ride, but I felt the open world was lackluster, and the story tried to be thrilling when it should't have. Therefor, I will probably enjoy this one (but there's no real way to tell until I actually play it).

I'll be honest, I don't expect story in open world games. When there is one, it's usually boss or awful. The story in the second could have been good if they kept it simple, but it got too out of hand, and they tried to make us care about these copy and paste characters.
 

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I'm really enjoying Far Cry 3 so far, but then again I enjoyed Far Cry 2. The game is at times a bit easy and money would have had a lot more meaning if activating the towers only unlocked the weapons for you to buy, instead of giving them to you for free. One of the best things about the game is that the side-stuff is actually fun. In Far Cry 2 the side missions and activities were boring and repetitive, with little variety. But there's tons of stuff to do in FC3 and I've had a blast with most of it.

The game has many flaws, but caters very nicely to my tastes and how I like to play. I really like being able to carefully chose my weapon load out, prepare some syringes with combat enhancing drugs and then planning my way to my next objective.

I had very little hope for this game and was going to pass on it, but at the moment this might be the game I've had the most fun with all year. Also, bows with exploding arrows = fun!
 

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I'm worried that it's going to be like Far Cry 2. In that game I began, got in a car, crashed the car, spent 10 minutes running to my location, dying, then spawning back in the crashed car. It was a slog.

However the gameplay in this looks amazing, as do the graphics. And I've grown as a gamer since Far Cry 2, completing many many open world games between then and now.

Maybe a christmas present :)
 

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Far Cry 3 is a lot more accessible than 2. There are many more options for fast travel. Also, if you save before attacking an enemy outpost, if you die you'll start from where you saved instead of spawning at a safe point.
 

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Aw :(

I was hoping for good things from Far Cry 3.

I mean, I like Far Cry 2, of all the shooters I like, that kind is my favourite, but I certainly agree with the criticisms made against it, and at least it was difficult at times (even if it wasn't 'true' difficulty).

As such I'm not really into shooters that don't have much of a challenge (and much less than I used to be at that).

Does lead me to wonder what a game like this with lesser technology but more development time could have been.
 

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kman123 said:
Sometimes I really struggle to find animals to skin and harvest glorious upgrades.
What, really? How?

I can't seem to walk ten steps without a lizard trying to chow down on my foot.

I just shot at every animal I saw for a while. Had almost all the stuff upgraded to the third stage within a few hours.
 

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Zhukov said:
The game is piss easy. Yes, even on the hardest settings. And that's coming from someone who really isn't particularly good at games. If you've ever played a FPS before then you will blow through FC3 with one hand tied behind your back. The vast majority of enemies present little more than an annoyance and you essentially have endless health kits. (When you run out of kits, you can still heal, it just takes a second longer.)
Is the game moddable?

Like, in a few months, can we mod it up to be STALKER hard and take advantage of the world building, at least? Bad story I can live with in an open world game.
 

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The weapons are, well... the exact same weapons you see every where else. A few pistols that go "pop pop". A bunch of SMGs/LMGs/ARs that spray bullets at whatever you point them at. A couple of shotguns, a couple of sniper rifles... blah-de-blah. Neither interesting, inventive or particularly satisfying to use. The only notable standout is the flamethrower.
I haven't played the game yet, so I'm in no condition to confirm or deny your criticism but as far as the weaponry goes what exactly did you expect? As long as an FPS is set in a present, semi-realistic world those are the guns you're going to get.

Coupled with the dull weapons is a complete dearth of enemy variety. You have animals that try to bite you and guys in red shirts that try to shoot you. That's it. Bugger all variation in behaviour or abilities.
Well, all animals can do is bite. And the enemies are just normal people (I assume, at least), what kind of special abilities would they have?
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
Zhukov said:
The game is piss easy. Yes, even on the hardest settings. And that's coming from someone who really isn't particularly good at games. If you've ever played a FPS before then you will blow through FC3 with one hand tied behind your back. The vast majority of enemies present little more than an annoyance and you essentially have endless health kits. (When you run out of kits, you can still heal, it just takes a second longer.)
Is the game moddable?

Like, in a few months, can we mod it up to be STALKER hard and take advantage of the world building, at least?
Uh... I have no idea?

How does one of the common folk distinguish a moddable game from a non-moddable one?
 

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Zhukov said:
How does one of the common folk distinguish a moddable game from a non-moddable one?
Sometimes it's pretty evident, or the series has a long standing history of being moddable. I have NO experience with Far Cry at all, and I thought perhaps you might. Until I heard this game was a sandbox with RPG elements it wasn't even on my radar.
 

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Capitano Segnaposto said:
Zhukov said:
Interesting review, but why isn't this in the reviews section?
I was about to point out the same thing. Maybe he wanted more people to see and comment on it XD
 

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Zhukov said:
The weapons are, well... the exact same weapons you see every where else. A few pistols that go "pop pop". A bunch of SMGs/LMGs/ARs that spray bullets at whatever you point them at. A couple of shotguns, a couple of sniper rifles... blah-de-blah. Neither interesting, inventive or particularly satisfying to use. The only notable standout is the flamethrower.
well what did you expect? guns do what guns always do. we're not talking about a sci-fi game here.

The problem I have with far cry3, the thing that grinds my gears the most and almost ruins the experience for me is the fall damage. it's ridiculously high compared to any other damage you take. bullets are alright, just shake it off. animals are no problem, just run away for a second. but fall damage? fall 3 meter and you're dead. yeah i get that falling hurts but it's like the protagonist has got bones of rice paper.