'Faults' in other people you cannot get your head around
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Well I'd hate to leave questions unanswered.CrystalShadow said:I disagree, and like I said, your attitude pisses me off.SmartIdiot said:I can see why you think we won't see eye to eye on it. We probably won't.CrystalShadow said:Nope.SmartIdiot said:
I don't understand people that have to do something.
There's nothing inherently good about it.
So... We'll never see eye to eye on that, I think.
Lazyness is hard to explain to someone who is always active.
How do you explain just how difficult it can be to get something done to a person who has never struggled with it themselves?
It pisses me off how glib and self-righteous such people can be.
The kind of laziness I refer to, at least, is inexcusable. I'm talking really easy things to do which barely take up any of your time. Taking out the trash, washing the dishes, getting a job, renewing your road tax, bothering your ass to learn the most simple tasks involved in your job as you get paid the same as everyone else. These kinds of things are not demanding.
I can understand where people would struggle if, say, they smoked too much dope in which case the solution is simple: stop doing it.
After that people are just making excuses with self-diagnosed anxieties, depression and selective ADD. They might fool some people but a lot can see them for the lazy spongers they are. You may think I'm being unfair or inconsiderate to the plight of some people who genuinely suffer here but I'm not, it's true. One of my best friends, a guy I've known for years, is one of these people and day by day I'm watching him allow his life to pass him by. He claims to have all sorts wrong with him, tries to explain it to me yet he shows no actual signs of aforementioned illnesses, then proceeding to tell people that he has a high IQ and knows so much about everything, why doesn't he use that to his advantage? He is just lazy and wants to play his PS3 for the rest of his life, without a job, living on benefits, with no sign of change. This really pisses me off as I've been working since I left school to get by and some of my tax is going towards him fucking around with his life.
Considering this, I think I've earned the right to be glib and self-righteous.
But... It risks turning into one of those inane discussions that cannot be resolved because it has no basis other than various forms of prejudice, bigotry and foolishness from all involved. (myself included.)
And really, what is your point here?
You work? You're doing something with your life?
To what end?
What, ultimately, does it accomplish, and why is it better than what anyone who you think is 'wasting' their life is doing?
Why does it matter?
Do you think working and paying tax makes you any less dependent on everyone around you than someone on welfare?
All it amounts to is a psychological game that doesn't accomplish anywhere near as much as you think it does.
Society would probably collapse if nobody did anything, and yet huge sections of the population do 'work' that doesn't really serve any significant purpose.
And still, you can't know what it means to find things difficult that you yourself find easy.
Anyone that's good at something will fail to see how anyone can struggle with it unless they themselves went through a period where it was difficult for them.
And really, spare me the perverse moaning of someone who obviously resents paying income tax and seeing anyone else benefit from it in any way...
Don't go around attacking people for struggling with what you think is 'easy'.
It's easy for you, but that doesn't mean it literally is 'easy' by definition.
So many people seem to take things for granted that are in fact actual skills, that require practice and time to learn, just because they've never stopped to think about how or when they gained those skills...
It's the willpower fallacy all over again. -_-
Now then, I better go calm down, before I do something really stupid, like contemplate the utter futility of life and the stupid meaningless drivel that people spend their time worrying about...
My point, illustrating why I find it hard to understand laziness these days.
Yes I work. I'm doing this in order to support plans I have in the near future, which hopefully will allow me to travel to different places and meet new people yet could also go very wrong but I can at least know that I tried. That's important to me at least, if no one else.
From a personal viewpoint I may not accomplish much, then again I may. No of course it doesn't matter as we are all organic matter that is slowly decaying on an insignificant rock in space. Yet is that a reason to give up? I just think it's a good idea to make the most of the time we have and see and experience as much as we can. This matters to me at least because if I cease doing things I tend to get quite unhappy myself and have observed similar behaviour in others(such as my aforementioned friend). My last post was perhaps uncoordinated. More specifically I was referring to the the people who loaf around and sponge then complain when they realise they've done nothing with their lives, then proceed to make excuses when people try to help them find the root of the problem.
No I do not believe I am less dependent on everyone around me, far from it, I'm human just like everyone else and need support and encouragement more often than I'd admit. Man cannot survive on willpower alone as the saying goes.
Yes there are vast numbers of people who 'work' but it doesn't really have any significance in the end, but perhaps they want to graft away to provide for their families, feeling like they're giving something, rather than doing nothing at all.
Funny thing is, I actually DO know what it means to struggle. When you stop doing certain things you can get into a state of general apathy and completely lose confidence in abilities you were once outstanding at. Yeah I'm aware it takes a while to get that back, it's like the lawnmower analogy, you keep pulling the cord to get the motor started and it just won't go and yet if you could just get it once it'd burst into life. I've been that guy. No it's not nice, however I had no option but to grit my teeth and get on with it and that was an uphill struggle. However as I'm about to elaborate those are not the kind of people I'm attacking.
Taxes. No one likes them, yet it's a necessary part of life for the working person. Yep, employment is still hard to come by at the moment and the longer you're unemployed the less confident you are. Consider this though, what about the people I often have to serve, using their benefit money to buy drugs and alcohol with no intention of ever earning it themselves? Surely you can forgive me for being a little pissed off at that. I'm all for helping people out (except banks and MPs) as we all need it from time to time, hasn't happened yet but I could end up on benefits at some point. But when I see these people who have the audacity to argue with me when I refuse to let them have something on credit, stating "I pay your wages", despite not actually doing a single fucking thing to earn it themselves how do you think that makes me feel?
At the end of a day, it's not a case of thinking I'm better than anyone(still got a long way to go before I can use that one) it's a case of I cannot understand crass laziness. If you've got the ability and the confidence, do something, no amount of arguing can justify not doing it. This reply is over-long as it is. I don't want to seem like I have to have the last word(no doubt I won't) I just felt a more specific explanation was in line. Your move.
I had to teach my mom how to copy and paste something in Word. She's not really computer savvy...at all. Along with that, she still needs me to show her how to turn on the DVD player.
One of my nit-picks is grammar, though I can wrap my brain around it...but it still drives me nuts when I see people mess it up.
One of my nit-picks is grammar, though I can wrap my brain around it...but it still drives me nuts when I see people mess it up.
I would agree, except I'm one of those people who needs something to complain about to be happy. I'm not sure why, but if I have to do something, I'll ***** about it extensively (while taking care of it, which I think sets me apart from the norm).SmartIdiot said:
I dunno, I just have to ***** about things. It's dumb, but there it is.
People who say words like "Bruv" and "Innit" in a really chav-tastic accent.
You didnt grow up talking like that and I just dont understand how people talk like that without thinking for a second about how they should say "Im going to pick up some milk for my Mum".
Where did it come from?
You didnt grow up talking like that and I just dont understand how people talk like that without thinking for a second about how they should say "Im going to pick up some milk for my Mum".
Where did it come from?
Huh... interesting. Your profile says you're American but you seem to have the condition called 'British'. It carries all the symptoms you just described... the only difference being that in Britain we complain and we're still not happyAgayek said:
.That explains it then.SmartIdiot said:Huh... interesting. Your profile says you're American but you seem to have the condition called 'British'. It carries all the symptoms you just described... the only difference being that in Britain we complain and we're still not happy
I must've caught it a few years back, when I last visited the UK.
People who try drugs right after watching a show telling about how bad it is, like Intervention. For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91JiCUSt3d4
lack of a sense of humor, and especially the inability to recognize sarcasm.
it's really pissing me off.
also, ppl who can't solve a simple i.q. test in due time. come on! it doesn't require much thought when the question is "milds are all kilds and kilds are all iops. is that true?"
it's really pissing me off.
also, ppl who can't solve a simple i.q. test in due time. come on! it doesn't require much thought when the question is "milds are all kilds and kilds are all iops. is that true?"
Hypocrisy in general. Seriously, how the hell can you be so untrustworthy to your own self, it is beyond me.
Sometimes people ***** at me because I always think I'm right. This generally happens when I have a viewpoint, and the one point they have made doesn't convice me otherwise, which is often because I don't run my mouth unless I convinced I'm right. I find this mind boggling because those people are convinced they're right too. It's not as if I'm going to say something thinking I'm wrong, and while they are probably the same way, they still think I'm the jerk. This sentiment doesn't become mutual until they spout the line "You always think you're right!". In short, people who share my stubborness I don't mind(I prefer to think of it as standing my/their ground). People who share my stubborness and then ***** about mine do.
