Favorite Batman Villian
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Either the Scarecrow or Mr. Freeze (the one from the 90's animated series where he was depicted as a tragic anti-hero, not the ridiculous Arnold Schwarzenegger Batman and Robin film version whose greatest weapon were his shitty ice puns).
But he's half of Harvey Dent who took of half the movie. So it's logical.TheTaco007 said:
In order of favorites:
1. The Joker
2. Two-Face
3. Poison Ivy
4. The Scarecrow
5. The Mad Hatter
6. Harley Quinn
7. Clayface (Batman: The Animated Series Version)
8. Mr. Freeze
9. The Riddler
10. The Ventriloquist and Scarface
12. Killer Croc
13. Ra's Al Ghul
14. Zsasz
15. The Penguin
16. Talia
17. The Black Mask
18. Deadshot
19. The Clock King*
20. Zeiss*
*Despite their obscurity and limited appearances made the list through sheer quality of limited appearances.
Favorite obscure villains would be, The Charlatan, Clubfoot, Adam Lamb/Mr. Wolf, and the Gentleman Ghost (who was one of my Steam handles for a while).
Least favorite is Hush. His costume: bandages and a trenchcoat! You can't get more generic than that. But then again, he was envisioned as a gimmicky mystery villain, so why he continues as a character boggles me. The gimmick of his identity expired. And his motivation is the lamest, most ludicrous, campiest, one ever. Even in Loeb logic, it's non-sensical.
I never considered Catwoman a villain or an anti-villain. She was always a heroine or anti-heroine to me.
My favorite Batman villain saw very limited use and it was called "The Wrath", they later brought in a similar character but I thought he was better. The storyline was called "The Player On The Other Side" (a Lewis Carol referance). The basic storyline was that on the same night that Batman's parents were being murdered by criminals, a family of criminals was being murdered by overzealous police. Where Batman inherited his family fortune, The Wrath wound up being dumped into reform school. Where Batman trailed with the best instructors money could buy, The Wrath trained with the elite of the criminal underworld. Batman swore vengeance on crime, The Wrath swore vengeance against the police/law and order.
The entire thing was a direct parallel in how they came to be, and how they trained, and the idea was that they were dead even in everything, the only way a fight could be resolved was when one of them eventually made a mistake. I thought the storyline was well written, though at the end The Wrath died, and was never to my knowlege brought back.
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That said I like a number of villains like Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, and even The Penguin because I feel kind of sorry for him.
Honestly though I think the best enemies are the ones who have had other motivations besides simple crime, or psychotic rage. I've long thought characters like Lady Shiva or Ra's Al Ghul were a lot more three dimensional.
As far as Robin's master plan goes, ironically another awesome villain that was only around for one storyline was "Azbat" as the fans called him. Basically after Bane broke Batman's back, he picked the hero Azrael to be a successor and put on the cape, but the guy went totally crazy. When Batman recovered he had to take his identity back.
I'm also surprised Cain was not mentioned. Cassandra Cain was my personal favorite Batgirl (apologies to Babs). Interestingly the fallout from Batman "adopting" her caused her "daddy" to come after Batman. He hatched a pretty awesome plan during the "Bruce Wayne: Murderer" storyline, and was a villain who had both brains and brawn. It also dealt with a gray area of "what ever happened to all these people who trained Bruce Wayne to become Batman". Cain was one of those guys, and Batman pretty much winds up letting him go for that reason despite everything. They have an interesting relationship.
Oh yes and then there was "Reverant Blackfire" (I think that was the name), a villain who literally took over all of Gotham long before "No Man's Land" in a storyline called "The Cult". He even brainwashed Batman after capturing him one night when he was a little too slow and got himself shot. Like "The Wrath" he was a limited use villain, and honestly I think he benefitted from that due to not being overused.
Well enough rambling, as I said, I think "The Wrath" was probably my favorite overall, but he is obscure, and very, very old.
The entire thing was a direct parallel in how they came to be, and how they trained, and the idea was that they were dead even in everything, the only way a fight could be resolved was when one of them eventually made a mistake. I thought the storyline was well written, though at the end The Wrath died, and was never to my knowlege brought back.
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That said I like a number of villains like Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, and even The Penguin because I feel kind of sorry for him.
Honestly though I think the best enemies are the ones who have had other motivations besides simple crime, or psychotic rage. I've long thought characters like Lady Shiva or Ra's Al Ghul were a lot more three dimensional.
As far as Robin's master plan goes, ironically another awesome villain that was only around for one storyline was "Azbat" as the fans called him. Basically after Bane broke Batman's back, he picked the hero Azrael to be a successor and put on the cape, but the guy went totally crazy. When Batman recovered he had to take his identity back.
I'm also surprised Cain was not mentioned. Cassandra Cain was my personal favorite Batgirl (apologies to Babs). Interestingly the fallout from Batman "adopting" her caused her "daddy" to come after Batman. He hatched a pretty awesome plan during the "Bruce Wayne: Murderer" storyline, and was a villain who had both brains and brawn. It also dealt with a gray area of "what ever happened to all these people who trained Bruce Wayne to become Batman". Cain was one of those guys, and Batman pretty much winds up letting him go for that reason despite everything. They have an interesting relationship.
Oh yes and then there was "Reverant Blackfire" (I think that was the name), a villain who literally took over all of Gotham long before "No Man's Land" in a storyline called "The Cult". He even brainwashed Batman after capturing him one night when he was a little too slow and got himself shot. Like "The Wrath" he was a limited use villain, and honestly I think he benefitted from that due to not being overused.
Well enough rambling, as I said, I think "The Wrath" was probably my favorite overall, but he is obscure, and very, very old.
Actually, Nolan was following the Batman: TAS apporach, where Harvey Dent was made a regular character on the show before he was turned into Two Face. Of course a film really has less time to work with... but Two Face had to share the spot light with the Joker.TheTaco007 said:
Harley Quinn is hot and diabolical, albeit a bit dim for following the Joker. Scarecrow is AWESOME and probably, if pressed, is probably my favorite for obvious reasons, but Victor Zsasz is a classic and quite awesome as well. Also all the villains based off of "Alice in Wonderland" are great as well.
The Gentleman Ghost. He's so stylish.
If I got ninja'd on this, I'll eat my top hat.
EDIT: Looks like I should read the other posts before I go saying stuff like that. DX
If I got ninja'd on this, I'll eat my top hat.
EDIT: Looks like I should read the other posts before I go saying stuff like that. DX
Harley Quinn, without doubt. She's just so enthusiastic about her work in a way even the Joker can't match.
Well, nearly everyone likes joker, but my favorite incarnation of the character was the one from the killing joke. The late 80's joker is a close 2nd.
Mr. Freeze had the one of the more interesting back stories and had one of the better episode of the Animated Series.
Long Halloween made me a fan of Two Face
I like all of Batman's villains, because they all have such creative gimmicks!
Except Zsasz...
Screw that generic ass palindrome.
Mr. Freeze had the one of the more interesting back stories and had one of the better episode of the Animated Series.
Long Halloween made me a fan of Two Face
I like all of Batman's villains, because they all have such creative gimmicks!
Except Zsasz...
Screw that generic ass palindrome.
Joker, because it's funny to play recordings of that voice into the mic as you go around knifing people
I can't speak to any of the other interpretations, but the animated series Riddler will always be my favorite. He was the only villian that I can remember routinely outsmarting old pointy ears. Respect.
Clayface from the old animated show. Thought I'd specify since he never seems to be the same person =D. Otherwise Scarecrow or The Joker.
