Tiebreaker:DrX_1030 said:I see your jesus and i raise you a tyler durdenErana said:Jesus.
I'm sorry, but Jesus kicks ass.
I mean, he's one of the most ancient, truly 1337* characters in literature.
Being the son of the only God, water into wine, having an ancient auto-phoenix ability, 'n what not.
You don't have to be a Christian to appreciate that aspect of the religion.
Jesus>Sephiropth.
*said "word" was italicized because it is a non-English word.
Seriously analyzing what I believe literature to be (not the true definition as you would find in a dictionary or wikipedia admittedly) I think some manga's and comic's fall under the category.I_LIKE_CAKE said:I disagree. I have read my share of comics/manga, and while some of it rises above sheer entertainment, posing meaningful questions and providing an interesting look at the human condition, the simple fact that there are PICTURES undermines what literary merit may exist. That is not to say that there is any less inherent meaning/value in such a work, however, the dominant art form in graphic novels is the visual, not the written, and literature, by its definition, should be focused on words.ioxles said:Hear hear! couldn't agree more. Literature as such encompasses all written forms, manga/comics I believe fall under this category, some of the best things i've read are in this form (best example: Grant Morrisons The Invisibles.)NekoAnastasia said:Methinks someone needs a little refresher course in good manners. I could have blathered on about Dickens, Robert Heinlein or Nabokov, but none of their characters are particularly a favourite. Having eclectic reading taste doesn't mean I don't read anything snobbier, and certainly isn't grounds for you to talk down to me just because you think your books are smarter than mine.mark_n_b said:methinks someone needs a little refresher course on what consitutes "literature".NekoAnastasia said:Ishida from Bleach, Edward from Anita Blake, and Eric from Charlaine Harris' Sookie Stackhouse novels. Swoon swoon swoon.
Don't worry, if this thread is any indication, so do a lot of people. Even if we were to seriously include the kind of pulp fiction that is described as a "vampire hunter series" under the descriptor of literature, serial manga out of Shonen Jump that is written to fan service is too far separated from the concept.
Seriously kids, a little respect for yourselves and the medium please.
"Literature" can mean any number of things, including any printed material whatsoever, any creative writing and the entire written works in any given language. If the OP wants to apply constraints in his thread, he's welcome to. You, however, are not welcome to waltz into someone else's thread, re-define the thread's parameters and then criticise anyone you feel doesn't adhere to them.
edit: I forgot to list Kylar Stern, from the night angel trilogy, on my first post. An amazing character, from an amazing series, I can't recommend it highly enough.
Thanks for mentioning Atticus Finch, I was losing hope for humanity there for a second. I consider him probably the greatest hero in American Literature, and damn well portrayed by Gregory Peck...stompy said:I'm surprised no one has said Atticus Finch (I'd be incredibly surprised if you don't know the novel he's from)... well, I will. Also,I think you mean Winston Smith, right? I preferred O'Brian (from Nineteen Eighty-Four), and Guy Mustang from Fahrenheit 451.Madrak the Red said:The dude from 1984. I really felt sorry for him. Damn, that book is so frakking depressing.
You, sir/madam, need to read Maus II. As good as storytelling and characters get in a graphic novel. Indeed, it works better than many fully-written accounts of the Holocaust.I_LIKE_CAKE said:I disagree. I have read my share of comics/manga, and while some of it rises above sheer entertainment, posing meaningful questions and providing an interesting look at the human condition, the simple fact that there are PICTURES undermines what literary merit may exist. That is not to say that there is any less inherent meaning/value in such a work, however, the dominant art form in graphic novels is the visual, not the written, and literature, by its definition, should be focused on words.
Hey, no problems, Atticus is awesome. Also, I watched the movie, and Gregory Peck was an amazing actor in the shoes of Atticus (I loved how he acted during the court room scene... it's a shame they can never use that court room scene again).SkinnySlim said:Thanks for mentioning Atticus Finch, I was losing hope for humanity there for a second. I consider him probably the greatest hero in American Literature, and damn well portrayed by Gregory Peck...
Exactly.Arsen said:Roland Deschain and Walter O' Dim - These characters have such depth as two complete opposites.
Macbeth - Such a tragic downfall so beautifully portrayed. The twist at the end...with the "woods moving in around" was a great ending.