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I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
That was more race based than religion based.
Well Hitler killed more religious people then he did colored people did he not?
But say if Hitler had never... wait... if Germany had never even become a country due to politics, there would have been no Nazi party to begin with. So, regardless, if there had been no politics, it would have been way better if there had simply been no religion.
 

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Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
That was more race based than religion based.
Well Hitler killed more religious people then he did colored people did he not?
But say if Hitler had never... wait... if Germany had never even become a country due to politics, there would have been no Nazi party to begin with. So, regardless, if there had been no politics, it would have been way better if there had simply been no religion.
You lost me
 

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Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
That was more race based than religion based.
Well Hitler killed more religious people then he did colored people did he not?
i think thats beside the point. Hitler didn't kill because of religion, he killed because of ethnicity and race. That people he killed were religious does not have as much to do with it as does the race part. He killed the Jews because of a racial/ethnic hatred. We see this in the propaganda and vilification of the Jews. Big noses cannot be associated to followers of a religion, as for the most part, a religion would people from many ethnic groups would it not. But Jews on the other hand, have often traits in common (Which are found in people of a shared genetic history, such as many of the jews) which were blown out of proportion, eg the size of the nose. If Hitler had been interested in a persons religion, he would not have persecuted the Jews who had been atheists, or had debatable link to the Jewish religion.
 

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rekabdarb said:
What if you could divide by... ZERO!
AUGHHH, MY HEAD!

OT: What would have happened if the Oscilloscope never existed? Would Pong have never come into being then? Would this site exist?

In terms of history history, what if England had successfully defended its industrial secrets for all time?
 

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boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
That was more race based than religion based.
Well Hitler killed more religious people then he did colored people did he not?
i think thats beside the point. Hitler didn't kill because of religion, he killed because of ethnicity and race. That people he killed were religious does not have as much to do with it as does the race part. He killed the Jews because of a racial/ethnic hatred. We see this in the propaganda and vilification of the Jews. Big noses cannot be associated to followers of a religion, as for the most part, a religion would people from many ethnic groups would it not. But Jews on the other hand, have often traits in common (Which are found in people of a shared genetic history, such as many of the jews) which were blown out of proportion, eg the size of the nose. If Hitler had been interested in a persons religion, he would not have persecuted the Jews who had been atheists, or had debatable link to the Jewish religion.
Well the world would be different with no religion
 

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Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
That was more race based than religion based.
Well Hitler killed more religious people then he did colored people did he not?
i think thats beside the point. Hitler didn't kill because of religion, he killed because of ethnicity and race. That people he killed were religious does not have as much to do with it as does the race part. He killed the Jews because of a racial/ethnic hatred. We see this in the propaganda and vilification of the Jews. Big noses cannot be associated to followers of a religion, as for the most part, a religion would people from many ethnic groups would it not. But Jews on the other hand, have often traits in common (Which are found in people of a shared genetic history, such as many of the jews) which were blown out of proportion, eg the size of the nose. If Hitler had been interested in a persons religion, he would not have persecuted the Jews who had been atheists, or had debatable link to the Jewish religion.
Well the world would be different with no religion
I don't think so really, people would still fight, there would still be wars. people would still hate each other.
 

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Quiet Stranger said:
Korten12 said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
really..? you wanted to go their? I know its probably a joke, but really? even if religion didnt exist, war would still exist.

my what if is... what if google was never invented..?
Well of course there'd still be war, but 9/11 wouldn't have happened, the holocaust and the crusades

Also if Google didn't exist we'd still have Mr. Jeeves, and Bing (or whatever that is) and the others
No crusades, no renaissance. No renaissance, Europe would have stayed in the dark ages for who knows how long. Not saying that means everything is justified in the end, but you can't really take a single historic event and hold it apart from everything as if it had no influence anywhere else.
 

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Acies Argentum said:
No crusades, no renaissance. No renaissance, Europe would have stayed in the dark ages for who knows how long. Not saying that means everything is justified in the end, but you can't really take a single historic event and hold it apart from everything as if it had no influence anywhere else.
Actually without Christianity in Europe as such an oppressive factor the Renaissance wouldn't have happened because there wouldn't have been a Dark Ages. So much scientific progress has been slowed down because it didn't conform with the Church's doctrine. Without the Catholic Church calling everyone who doesn't follow Catholic creed exactly a heretic then perhaps more people would have been willing to really figure out how the world works thus advancing technology.
 

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boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
That was more race based than religion based.
Well Hitler killed more religious people then he did colored people did he not?
i think thats beside the point. Hitler didn't kill because of religion, he killed because of ethnicity and race. That people he killed were religious does not have as much to do with it as does the race part. He killed the Jews because of a racial/ethnic hatred. We see this in the propaganda and vilification of the Jews. Big noses cannot be associated to followers of a religion, as for the most part, a religion would people from many ethnic groups would it not. But Jews on the other hand, have often traits in common (Which are found in people of a shared genetic history, such as many of the jews) which were blown out of proportion, eg the size of the nose. If Hitler had been interested in a persons religion, he would not have persecuted the Jews who had been atheists, or had debatable link to the Jewish religion.
Well the world would be different with no religion
I don't think so really, people would still fight, there would still be wars. people would still hate each other.
There would be no people like Fred Phelps
 

Quiet Stranger

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Acies Argentum said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Korten12 said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
really..? you wanted to go their? I know its probably a joke, but really? even if religion didnt exist, war would still exist.

my what if is... what if google was never invented..?
Well of course there'd still be war, but 9/11 wouldn't have happened, the holocaust and the crusades

Also if Google didn't exist we'd still have Mr. Jeeves, and Bing (or whatever that is) and the others
No crusades, no renaissance. No renaissance, Europe would have stayed in the dark ages for who knows how long. Not saying that means everything is justified in the end, but you can't really take a single historic event and hold it apart from everything as if it had no influence anywhere else.
Well thats why they're just what ifs, we don't actually know what would happen and thats why we ask what if's
 

The Tommunist

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Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
That was more race based than religion based.
Well Hitler killed more religious people then he did colored people did he not?
i think thats beside the point. Hitler didn't kill because of religion, he killed because of ethnicity and race. That people he killed were religious does not have as much to do with it as does the race part. He killed the Jews because of a racial/ethnic hatred. We see this in the propaganda and vilification of the Jews. Big noses cannot be associated to followers of a religion, as for the most part, a religion would people from many ethnic groups would it not. But Jews on the other hand, have often traits in common (Which are found in people of a shared genetic history, such as many of the jews) which were blown out of proportion, eg the size of the nose. If Hitler had been interested in a persons religion, he would not have persecuted the Jews who had been atheists, or had debatable link to the Jewish religion.
Well the world would be different with no religion
I don't think so really, people would still fight, there would still be wars. people would still hate each other.
There would be no people like Fred Phelps
Yes there would. They'd just not be religion based. Theres always going to be people who take an idea in the wrong direction.
 

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what if jesus didn't rise on easter, and it was just grave robbers from the early forming christianity, doing this to set a theme that jesus was 100% without a doubt god's son?
 

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boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
That was more race based than religion based.
Well Hitler killed more religious people then he did colored people did he not?
i think thats beside the point. Hitler didn't kill because of religion, he killed because of ethnicity and race. That people he killed were religious does not have as much to do with it as does the race part. He killed the Jews because of a racial/ethnic hatred. We see this in the propaganda and vilification of the Jews. Big noses cannot be associated to followers of a religion, as for the most part, a religion would people from many ethnic groups would it not. But Jews on the other hand, have often traits in common (Which are found in people of a shared genetic history, such as many of the jews) which were blown out of proportion, eg the size of the nose. If Hitler had been interested in a persons religion, he would not have persecuted the Jews who had been atheists, or had debatable link to the Jewish religion.
Well the world would be different with no religion
I don't think so really, people would still fight, there would still be wars. people would still hate each other.
There would be no people like Fred Phelps
Yes there would. They'd just not be religion based. Theres always going to be people who take an idea in the wrong direction.
Okay then how bout this? No religious quacks
 

The Tommunist

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Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
That was more race based than religion based.
Well Hitler killed more religious people then he did colored people did he not?
i think thats beside the point. Hitler didn't kill because of religion, he killed because of ethnicity and race. That people he killed were religious does not have as much to do with it as does the race part. He killed the Jews because of a racial/ethnic hatred. We see this in the propaganda and vilification of the Jews. Big noses cannot be associated to followers of a religion, as for the most part, a religion would people from many ethnic groups would it not. But Jews on the other hand, have often traits in common (Which are found in people of a shared genetic history, such as many of the jews) which were blown out of proportion, eg the size of the nose. If Hitler had been interested in a persons religion, he would not have persecuted the Jews who had been atheists, or had debatable link to the Jewish religion.
Well the world would be different with no religion
I don't think so really, people would still fight, there would still be wars. people would still hate each other.
There would be no people like Fred Phelps
Yes there would. They'd just not be religion based. Theres always going to be people who take an idea in the wrong direction.
Okay then how bout this? No religious quacks
thats all something we can do without.
 

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Perhaps Hitler won? Would the world's most spoken language really be German if he did?
Then again, what if Hitler never came to power?
What if the Archduke Ferdinand wasn't shot, and WW1 never happened?
 

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Wilson had kept the Treaty of Versailles from being passed?
Slavery didn't ruin Africa?
America didn't help Vietnam?
Russia didn't help in WW1?
Germany stuck to Bismarck's peace ideals?
Huwie Long wasn't assassinated?
Gore won instead?
Nixon didn't do Watergate?
Lincoln wasn't assassinated?
Stalin was assassinated?
Hannibal conquered Rome?
Humans and apes retained tails and fur?
Neanderthals still existed?
Teddy Roosevelt won reelection?

I have a lot of them.
 

hannan4mitch

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What if there was no Dark Age (this theory was in the Family Guy episode "Road to the Multiverse"), and would Earth really be 1000 more years advanced if there wasn't one?
 

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I have a few that I wonder what would the world be like if it happened:
What if Tsar Alexander II wasn't assassinated?
What would have happened if Britain had lost the Opium War?
What would have happened if Emperor Taisho didn't die of a heart attack and lived longer?
 

Quiet Stranger

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boris the sprinkler said:
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boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
boris the sprinkler said:
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boris the sprinkler said:
Quiet Stranger said:
Snowalker said:
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Snowalker said:
Quiet Stranger said:
I hope Im not ninja'd....what if religion didn't exist at all? Oh wait, peace on earth
No offense, but I really disagree with that. Not every conflict has been religion related, some were straight up politics. However if were to change that to religion AND politics. I would be inclined to agree.
Yeah but at least the worst things were caused by religion
So, WWII was caused by Religion? thought it was politics, silly me.
I said the Holocaust, you know jews being killed off because they're jews
That was more race based than religion based.
Well Hitler killed more religious people then he did colored people did he not?
i think thats beside the point. Hitler didn't kill because of religion, he killed because of ethnicity and race. That people he killed were religious does not have as much to do with it as does the race part. He killed the Jews because of a racial/ethnic hatred. We see this in the propaganda and vilification of the Jews. Big noses cannot be associated to followers of a religion, as for the most part, a religion would people from many ethnic groups would it not. But Jews on the other hand, have often traits in common (Which are found in people of a shared genetic history, such as many of the jews) which were blown out of proportion, eg the size of the nose. If Hitler had been interested in a persons religion, he would not have persecuted the Jews who had been atheists, or had debatable link to the Jewish religion.
Well the world would be different with no religion
I don't think so really, people would still fight, there would still be wars. people would still hate each other.
There would be no people like Fred Phelps
Yes there would. They'd just not be religion based. Theres always going to be people who take an idea in the wrong direction.
Okay then how bout this? No religious quacks
thats all something we can do without.
yup, it sure is