"Feeding Kids Meat is Child Abuse"

[Death on Trapezoids]

By their own logic, sugar, which is *gasp* derived from plants, is child abuse on par with deliberately taking years off your child's life.

If peta likes animals so much, why do they keep telling us to eat all their food?

 

[ENKC]

I really can't see how they can justify that statement in any way, shape or form. I see no logic behind it whatsoever.

PETA are environmentalists in the way that Scientology is a religion.

 

[MarkusWolfe]

Welp, it's their opinion. But remember, PETA are a group with an agenda - the complete "emancipation" of all animals. It doesn't matter if Meat is good or bad, they are duty bound to condemn it.

Yes, excessive Red Meat intake does raise the risk of Cancer and Diabetes (type II) and obesity. I would also point out that eating too many french-fries (which are made with Potatoes), can also do the same. Eat too much of ANYTHING and it can cause obesity (fruit included!).

If you eat meat responsibly, as I do, you won't be overweight. I'm certainly not! I'm 5'7 and I weigh 64 kg, which is exactly what I should weigh according to the doctors. I have eaten meat my entire life - mostly lean meat, and mostly "white" meat like Chicken and Fish, but I do eat pork occasionally. I have also drunk milk my entire life. And I'm not obese or suffering from any diseases (that I'm aware of).

PETA are liars. They know this much themselves. Once again, their agenda isn't to tell the truth. Meat isn't perfectly healthy, but EVEN IF IT WAS, PETA would STILL say it was unhealthy, because they have an agenda to push above all else. They are opposed to meat eating and animal-product intake on a philosophical level and believe me they are willing to lie through their teeth in order to scare people. I don't trust a damn thing PETA say because they've lied in the past, and they'll lie in the future.

For example, PETA and many other Vegan societies keep on insisting that Milk is bad for kids. Thousands of years of human civilization, eating habits and decades of scientific research prove otherwise - that Milk, taken in moderation like anything else, is perfectly healthy and safe. People have been drinking milk since the time where we learned to domesticate animals - if it truly was "so evil" then we wouldn't have drunk it for THOUSANDS OF YEARS! Milk is nutritious, contains needed calcium and is great for infants.

But PETA hate Milk on PRINCIPLE. Hell, even if Milk extended the human life span by 100 years and gave people the ability to fly, PETA would still say "No, it's evil!". And the thing is, this propaganda does damage. In Asia, PETA propaganda and lies have turned large segments of the Asian Population against milk, claiming that it'll make your kids fat like US kids! Some asian relatives of mine have taken their kids off milk (their kids are 1 and 2 years old) because PETA have told them that their kids will turn into fat little white kids if they drink too much milk! No, I'm not joking. Not only is that propaganda racist against Whites and Asians, it hurts kids who need to put on as much Bone Mass Density as possible in order to decrease the likelihood of osteoporosis.

PETA care only about one thing - the elevation of animals to the same level as humans. Hell, they'd give animals the vote if they could. In Australia, they recently came out against the swatting of flies. Again, I'm not joking. That's right - they are against the killing of flies now. They are one step away from the lunatic brigade. What's next I wonder - opposing Mosquito clearing techniques in Africa because "Mossies have rights!". PETA claim they want "equailty", but I just seem them as a bunch of animal worshippers who think Bambi, with it's talking deer, was a documentary.

Funny thing about the milk:you're naturally supposed to get lactose intolerant as you get older. It's just that some groups of humans have this mutation that prevents us from growing lactose intolerant. But I suppose that since we've obviously utilized this mutation adapted to drinking milk tot he point of becoming dependent on it, it is good for us.

Related fact: This mutation is most common in whites. In fact, at some point the Chinese referred to whites as 'milk people' because they could smell it on us.

 

[SuperSuperSuperGuy]

Mmm... Child abuse... Delicious, juicy child abuse...

PETA. Calm the hell down and think for a bit. Your beloved animals are being killed every day by other animals for food. We are living creatures, as well, and, as such, we need to eat what we were designed to eat to get proper nutrition. This means fruit, vegetables, nuts and, of course, MEAT. We humans evolved to be omnivorous and while it is entirely possible that someone can live without eating meat, it wouldn't be good for them without some sort of nutritional supplement. You claim that your ad campaign is for fighting child obesity, but that argument does not hold any water; obesity is not caused by eating meat, it's caused by an inactive lifestyle, overeating and the over-consumption of unhealthy foods. It's perfectly natural for humans to eat meat. I've done it, your families have probably done it and your distant ancestors have more than likely done it, and animals do it all of the time. Meat is not murder, lest the animals that you hold so dear be murderers as well.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go enjoy some child abuse - I mean, leftovers from dinner.

 

[cloudwolf616]

As far as i understand the freedom of speech act does not apply in this context to the UK or Eire so im not sure are they allowed to put it up unless they can back it up with actual fact?
Can anyone confirm im right or wrong?

 

[Lucane]

PETA kills more animals than most kennels and pet establishments, you know.

really? I thought they loved their animals :s

http://www.newsweek.com/2008/04/27/peta-and-euthanasia.html

[tt]The organization has practiced euthanasia for years. Since 1998 PETA has killed more than 17,000 animals, nearly 85 percent of all those it has rescued.[/tt]

They have a worse percentage 85% vs. 80% but the link you provided says PeTA's total at the time is 17,000 while one year for shelters and such is an average of 4 million a year.

They're still hypocrites though.

 

[Nannernade]

I think it should be taken down, you can preach free speech as long as what your organization is doing actually has a point behind it with little to no craziness in the mix so... >.>

 

[Kavic86]

I watched a nice documentary called Fat Head, it was more or less debunking most of the crap that says meat, fat and other things are bad for you. Needless to say we evolved eating meat not carb heavy foods like most stuff today. Its just stupid people trying to control other stupid people.

 

[spartan231490]

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OT: There is nothing unhealthy about meat. Not eating meat almost always requires you to take a half-dozen vitamins and supplements just to get enough protein, amino acids, and essential minerals. Also, protein fills you up more and longer than carbs or fats so eating meat helps you to eat fewer calories and avoid obesity. Hence PETA, people for the eating of tasty animals.

1. What are these "half a dozen vitamins and supplements" that one can't obtain from non-meat sources?

2. Firstly, vegetarian diets are often richer in fibre, which has health benefits and fills you up more without the extra calories and saturated fat. Secondly, one can find rich vegetarian sources of protein including but not limited to eggs, lentils, broccoli, quinoa, tofu, milk, and soy milk.

1) I never said anything about "can't obtain," but you have to choose your foods very carefully to get enough proteins, amino acids, iron, b12, and a few others. It's not impossible, but it's not super easy either.

2) Fiber has many health benefits that's true, so does protein. Meat isn't all high fat either. beef is, but poultry, fish, and a few other sources are very lean. Never said you couldn't get protein as a vegetarian, just said it was harder.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm saying being a vegitarian is bad, i'm not. I'm just saying that there is nothing unhealthy about meat. It was also mentioned that they put the billboard up to fight obesity and most of obesity, at least where I'm from, is due to all the carbs we eat in things like bread, not meat. I've yet to meet a significantly obese person who got that way by eating too much steak.

 

[imperialwar]

okay. i will play along.
the world goes vegetarian, all existing livestock is either euthenised or released into thte wild. All existing livestock farm land is converted into vegetable crop fields.
Every one "lives longer" ( some else quoted a release earlier ). More people are born, more land needed for crops, more land needed for living.
On going pollution degeneration of vegetable nutrient levels continues to rise.

ok so now what ?

Peta seems to like to work in absolutes, so id like to understand what their "utopia" solution is ?

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

I don't take advice from a terrorist organization.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

okay. i will play along.
the world goes vegetarian, all existing livestock is either euthenised or released into thte wild. All existing livestock farm land is converted into vegetable crop fields.
Every one "lives longer" ( some else quoted a release earlier ). More people are born, more land needed for crops, more land needed for living.
On going pollution degeneration of vegetable nutrient levels continues to rise.

ok so now what ?

Peta seems to like to work in absolutes, so id like to understand what their "utopia" solution is ?

Don't forget that PETA doesn't advocate pets either. How exactly is it better for those animals if they are all put down? Also, no animals for medical testing. Say goodbye to ALL medical progress.

 

[Arafiro]

This thread really makes me want to go and make a turkey sandwich.

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In fact, I'm going to go do that right now.. and oh it shall be delicious.

 

[Vault101]

and feeding people false information is just plain irresponsible

 

[zwoodco10]

As somebody who does not eat meat, even I think PETA are a bunch of idiots, mostly for their advertisements that portray sexism and incorrect information.

However, I do think that a parent who feeds their children meat are no more of a child abuser than somebody who doesn't. All the nutrition that you get from meat can also be obtained through other foods, and with the right dieting and nutritional planning, being vegetarian or vegan can be very beneficial for your health. I certainly do not look down upon anybody who eats meat, as it is their choice.

However, I am apalled at some of the comments in this thread. I plan on becoming vegan very soon, and I have several friends who are vegan (including my girlfriend). To suggest that somebody who has chosen an alternative lifestyle is stupid for it (or making any sort of "derp" comment) is both ignorant and insensitive.

Some people don't want to eat meat, and they want to raise their children that way. Fucking deal with it.

I agree that it is each person's responsibility to raise their children as they see fit, however kids need meat (or eggs and dairy).

The truth of the matter is, you CAN receive all the protein and nutrients that you would normally get from meat from other sources, but it requires planning and specialized vegan diets. Kids' bodies don't process food the same way that adults' bodies do. For one, even the vitamin supplements designed for children aren't enough. They do give some nutritional aid, but they aren't broken down the same way meat (or any other food) is. As such, kids don't get the suggested amount of whichever supplement they are being given.

I'm just gonna stop. I'm tired and this is starting to sound like gibberish. The point I was trying to make is this: While it is important for parents to raise their kids as they see fit, it is easier, less risky, and healthier to feed them a well-balanced diet of all the major food groups up until their teen years. Once puberty starts, the body begins to break down vitamin supplements more efficiently. Plus, it's ultimately the kid's decision as to whether or not they remain Vegan. You can't really force someone to do something they don't want to.

 

[acosn]

PETA's pretty fucking stupid on multiple levels and they're an organization I'd rather be caught dead than get behind.

And when I say "pretty fucking stupid" I mean that of all the animals they rescue somewhere in the range of 90-99% of them are put down because they're deemed, "Adoptable." Except they have no criteria for what actually quantifies that.

They hire models for their adds that turn around and wear fur coats. Woops.

And the staggering majority of their budget doesn't go to actually doing anything other than advertising themselves.

What I will say on the subject though is that they're partially right. I mean, yeah, fast food isn't healthy and it's going to make you fat if you eat it in excess. The average American also eats far too much meat- 200% too much. The amount of meat you really need for a healthy diet in terms of protein intake is about the size of a deck of cards. Per day.

Right now we're eating like farmers.

 

[Bofore13]

I enjoy how horribly photo-shopped that face is
However it really is a moderation issue, I need to eat even less than most people because meat on my campus is cured, meaning preserved in salt, so I need to seriously watch blood pressure over meah.

 

[CD-R]

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ is all i have to say on the subject.