"Feeding Kids Meat is Child Abuse"

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qeinar

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Actually a lot of vegan parents get problems with their kids getting sick from not getting meat. : p not saying a baby can't live without it, but you need a lot of suplements. ^^
 

Racecarlock

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Well, I do believe their stupidity has just caused a singularity. Nice knowing you all, but we're all about to be absorbed by a black hole of stupid.
 

SteewpidZombie

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I live in Alberta Canada where we are practically KNOWN for our Beef industry. I grew up on a farm and I've eaten/killed everything from pigs, chickens, turkeys, and ducks, to cows, moose, deer, and buffalo (Buffalo is quite tasty and they are neat to have as cattle).

Humans have always eaten meat, and humans will always eat meat. In the end I think people should mind their own business. I could care less about if you're Vegan or Not, it's your own lifestyle and views and I don't need to be involved. So let me enjoy my own steak, and I'll let you enjoy your salad. I won't force my lifestyle on you, so don't force your lifestyle on me. We can all get along if we stop trying to always be correct about everything, so I'll leave it at that.

However in my opinion PETA is a bunch of pet murdering hypocrites, they are also hate mongers for trying to press people into not eating meat by throwing around slanderous accusations and propaganda. They claim that 'Fur is murder!', yet they kill 90% of the pets they 'rescue' from being homeless. I support the idea of non-animal cruel treatment, but these people are simply pandering to the masses for money. I don't normally wish harm upon others, but these people deserve to be kicked in the head for being as ignorant as the 'WestBoro Baptist Church'.
http://www.petakillsanimals.com
 

Nicholas Woodruff

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Not feeding our children meat is Child Abuse.
It's scientifically proven that a Vegetarian diet cannot provide the same nutrients that an Omnivore diet can, just as a Carnivorous diet cannot provide the same nutrients that an Omnivore diet can.
There's a reason Homo Sapiens are Herbivores.
 

Beliyal

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As a vegetarian, I'd like to say that I wish PETA would just shut up already. Giving people education about all available healthy food (and offering the said food) is one thing, but spreading "scary" propaganda and shit is something that doesn't benefit anyone. I mean, I avoid telling people that I am a vegetarian because they immediately get the image of PETA and start rolling their eyes. And I don't blame them. I mean, child abuse? Really? It's not child abuse, for the love of God. And although, personally, I would have been much healthier and happier if I was a vegetarian all my life, I won't sue my parents for giving me meat and I don't think they could have done it any better. It's fine to talk about it with kids when they're young, to tell them that there is other healthy food available, and give them a chance to try something different, but this propaganda is just ridiculous. Besides, even I would defiantly refuse to stop eating meat 10 years ago if my parents tried to force me into it.

Maybe they're trolling. Yes, that thought will give me the peace of mind, so I'll just believe that.
 

AngryFrenchCanadian

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Nicholas Woodruff said:
Not feeding our children meat is Child Abuse.
It's scientifically proven that a Vegetarian diet cannot provide the same nutrients that a Herbivore diet can, just as a Carnivorous diet cannot provide the same nutrients that a Herbivore diet can.
There's a reason Homo Sapiens are Herbivores.
I think you mean omnivores, not herbivores.
 

joshthor

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CarlMinez said:
joshthor said:
if i had kids and someone said that to me while i was feeding them meat someone would get punched in the throat. i'd tell my kids "meat made me strong enough to do that, and the weak vegetarian is gasping because he does not have enough protien"
What science is that founded on? Scientific consensus says that a vegetarian lifestyle might actually improve your overall physical condition, whereas meat and animal fat has been linked to obesity in countless studios.
the science of my fist. it would be a taunt. i have no science to back it up. all i know is i have 3 freinds who are vegetarians and they are all protien deficient and have to take pills for it. also: how many ufc fighters do you know that are vegetarian? does the army serve its troops exclusively salad? im just saying i havent met very many strong vegetarians.
 

InnerRebellion

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PETA stands for People Eating Tasty Animals... why are they protesting the consumption of my favorite Disney characters? I for one, think Thumper is very delicious.
 

GRYPHOM

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zehydra said:
TU4AR said:
Venereus said:
HOLY SHIT FUCKING EPIC WIN

zehydra said:
but who's to say what's false? By what method is the government to determine the truth or falsity of a statement? Would every bit of false information have to go through something like a court process?

The reason you can't say "Fire!" in a cinema, is because it disrupts people from watching the movie, which is bad for business. The Cinema puts in that rule in order to prevent loss of business. However, this isn't a restriction of freedom of speech, because its the Cinema enforcing this rule, not the government.
Well, claiming feeding a child meat to be "child abuse" (a crime) is blatantly incorrect. It's like saying that farting is drink driving; it's just plain wrong. So, that's how you'd say it's false. It's not expressing opinion, it's supposed fact. Which is not true.
It is not the same. When people talk about what Child Abuse IS, they are talking about what people should consider Child Abuse to be. This billboard is being normative, not descriptive about child abuse.
Oh, and there is an addendum to Free Speech. It happened, gosh, quite a while ago, around Herbert Hoover's time. It adds that Free Speech is acceptable as long as it doesn't endanger any other human being. Yelling "fire" in a cinema is a felony, because it causes panic and people die by being trampled.
 

GraveeKing

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I'm not vegetarian and I only eat a little meat myself - but what's with all these hate against these people? Sure it's free-speech doing it's worse but if you look at it in the right way it could be true - and if that's their views so be it.
These days if you're stupid enough to believe what you see on billboards then you probably deserve the consequences.

O.K now on the flip-side let me TRY and stick up for these guys a little here. Meat IS bad for your kids, I have a friend who's lazy and never eats meat (hence fatty things like burgers) at all - but never works out either - but he's grown up to not anything more than above average at all, I'd dare say if he'd eaten meat his entire life he'd probably be a classic fatty. You've also got to look at the sign from how it's said.
'Feeding' kids is different from saying 'letting' - I could say that they're trying to encourage parents not to FORCE kids to eat meat at meals etc and let them pick their own food - if they want meat sure.

Oook defending them was a tough one and that's all I got but to cut it short - we've got freedom of speech, there's much worse views out there let these guys have their damn billboard!
 

GRYPHOM

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Boba Frag said:
The Apothecarry said:
Meat is murder. Sweet, sweet, delicious murder.

We evolved to become carnivores, not herbivores. It's not an opinion: It's SCIENCE.
I'm not sure about you, but speaking for myself, not everything I eat is meat...

And some fact checking before you scream Science! at people would be nice.
Homo sapiens are in fact omnivores, not carnivores.
Humanity evolved to be able to process both meat based and plant based foods.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_humans_omnivores_or_herbivores

But back to the OP- I see what Peta are trying to do, I just think they're being incredibly militant and obnoxious about it.
Education, not moralising will change how animals are treated.

EDIT:

I see I was ninja'ed! Disregard my post then :p
http://www.google.com/search?q=SCIENCE&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a#q=SCIENCE&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=vid:1&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=d3a06b8f617e5e91

SCIENCE!
 

thylasos

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Oh, drop it people. It's a few billboards with a misleading message. I don't give a damn what PETA members do, so long as it remains non-violent.

Why should I be subjected to Alpha Course advertisements on the side of buses if there's not a conclusive link between their creepy semi-cult-seeming-like activities and eternal bliss in heaven?

Or voting for any political advertisement, and them actually doing what they promised?
 

thylasos

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The whole "we were designed" (creepy term) "to eat meat" thing...

As a sentient species, which has developed a highly sophisticated system and science of agriculture, we have a choice. We don't have to eat meat. 8 years without, going strong. Also, a significant proportion of the world's population. More people are vegetarian than are Sikh, for goodness sake. I mean, do you work in an abbatoire or something?



Biological evolution argument. OK. Welcome to the Panda. Biologically, ought to be a carnivore. Isn't.

Don't bring up the breeding thing. That's been covered more recently by research into social behaviour in the wild. Without territory, a male Panda is seemingly meaningless to a female, and vice versa.
 

Emperor Inferno

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Concerning posts I've seen saying that the ad should be shot down, they probably will because It's insulting and slanderous against Americans as a people.

Damn, I am so sick of them. Screw barbequeing at a PETA office. Lets go barbeque the PETA office and the people in it.

Also, my fiance has this cute thing she says. PITA, sounds exactly like PETA. It stands for "Pain In The Ass." Needless to say, I always associate that acronym with this PITA organisation.
 

Boba Frag

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GRYPHOM said:
Boba Frag said:
The Apothecarry said:
Meat is murder. Sweet, sweet, delicious murder.

We evolved to become carnivores, not herbivores. It's not an opinion: It's SCIENCE.
I'm not sure about you, but speaking for myself, not everything I eat is meat...

And some fact checking before you scream Science! at people would be nice.
Homo sapiens are in fact omnivores, not carnivores.
Humanity evolved to be able to process both meat based and plant based foods.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_humans_omnivores_or_herbivores

But back to the OP- I see what Peta are trying to do, I just think they're being incredibly militant and obnoxious about it.
Education, not moralising will change how animals are treated.

EDIT:

I see I was ninja'ed! Disregard my post then :p
http://www.google.com/search?q=SCIENCE&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a#q=SCIENCE&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=vid:1&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=d3a06b8f617e5e91

SCIENCE!
Look at all that delicious science!
I think I'll eat that instead.
 

Boba Frag

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Vidiot said:
Good, good! Give in to your hate. I can feel it growing. Seriously though, PETA is yet another organization pandering to people who refuse to believe that the world is a complex place full of compromise and balance. People who lean on extremism as a crutch simply can't understand that there's no such thing as "pure good" or "pure evil".

It seems that some of the worst evil ever carried out in this world is started from good intentions. This applies to everything from PETA, religious fundamentalism, (Christian, Jews, and everyone else, not just Muslims) to politics.

This kind of backwards "logic" reminds me of one of the endings for Soul Calibur. The "good" sword wins, and the earth is covered in ice. ...And the world was at peace forever. Life is not black and white, it's shades of gray. There are answers to the great questions of existence, but those answers are difficult and complex. Such is life.
This is probably the most intelligent and insightful things I've read on these forums in a long time.

If only more people in general would realise this.
 

SIXVI06-M

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The sheer ignorance of such a statement is really only going to make them seem worse anyway.

Feeding your children nothing but junkfood might be somewhat negligent, but I wouldn't call it child-abuse. Feeding your children meat because it is part of a healthy daily diet? I'd say a parent is doing alright meal-wise if they can do that at the very least.