Feminism: has it gone to far?

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AgentNein

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derelix said:
No males do not have all the rights.
I don't know what "society" you live in but where I live females are treated better and given more options than males. I can't speak for your country but I know white males don't hold all the power here. A rich indian, black, asian, or female has way more power than a middle class white male.
Because how much money you have makes you more or less privileged as well. My point still stands. All other things being equal, a white male holds more power in western society than anyone else. A middle class white male holds more power than a middle class *insert what you'd like*.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
I love it when a bunch of middle class or better white males decide that everything's equal.

I don't have much else to say here. This thread is horrendously disheartening.
The problem with privilege is if you have it, it's hard to see it, and when people point it out to others, it tends to make them defensive.

Really defensive.
 

Jake0fTrades

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Feminism in itself is harmless, but then again even Communism works in theory.

A feminist who can honestly say that she wants equality among the sexes is fine with me. Problem is, most people who call themselves "feminist" have a philosophy kind of like this.

"I hate men because they hate women."

You're only a feminist until you yourself become sexist. At that point I believe a face-palm is in order.
 

Serenegoose

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derelix said:
Your talking out of your ass now. A woman is just as capable of being rich, the difference is the amount of people born into a rich life. I'm a white male, do you really think I'm more likely to become rich than a white female or a black female? If so you live in a fantasy world that I would love to be a part of.
1 Carlos Slim Helu & family. Male.
2 William Gates III Male.
3 Warren Buffett Male.
4 Mukesh Ambani Male.
5 Lakshmi Mittal Male.
6 Lawrence Ellison Male.
7 Bernard Arnault Male.
8 Eike Batista Male.
9 Amancio Ortega Male.
10 Karl Albrecht Male.
11 Ingvar Kamprad Male.
12 Christy Walton & family Female.
13 Stefan Persson Male.
14 Li Ka-shing Male.
15 Jim Walton Male.
16 Alice Walton Female.
17 Liliane Bettencourt Female.
18 S. Robson Walton Male.
19 Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud Male.
20 David Thomson & family Male.
21 Michael Otto & family Male.
22 Lee Shau Kee Male.
23 Michael Bloomberg Male.
24 Sergey Brin Male.
24 Charles Koch Male.
24 David Koch Male.
24 Larry Page Male.
28 Michele Ferrero & family Male.
28 Kwok family Male. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Kwok
28 Azim Premji Male.
31 Theo Albrecht Male.
32 Vladimir Lisin Male.
33 Steven Ballmer Male.
33 Robert Kuok Male.
35 George Soros Male.
36 Anil Ambani Male.
37 Paul Allen Male.
37 Michael Dell Male.
39 Mikhail Prokhorov Male.
40 Birgit Rausing & family Female.
40 Shashi & Ravi Ruia Male.
42 Mikhail Fridman Male.
43 Jeffrey Bezos Male.
44 Savitri Jindal Female.
45 Donald Bren Male.
45 Gerald Cavendish Grosvenor & family Male.
45 John Paulson Male.
48 Abigail Johnson Female.
48 Jorge Paulo Lemann Male.
50 Roman Abramovich Male.

6 people out of 50 are women.
 

mr_rubino

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I think it's clear why feminism hasn't gone far enough. We have a bunch of intelligent, educated women who have gained important life experience being utterly dominated by some 12 year old kids who got their world-view fed to them from a blog.
Then again, it's not like this thread has been a haven for discussion anyway. "Some woman at some time in some place said/did X. Feminazis are such feminazis." (I wonder if Rush gets royalties anytime someone shoehorns this word into a sentence. Hm...)
Just had to add that. Continue the beatdown.
 

Serenegoose

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derelix said:
right, like when woman are favored by our laws they like to ignore it.
God this thread has opened my eyes. Nobody deserves life. Humans are selfish useless little insects and people like you have shown me this, thank you.
Dumb, spoiled little B***** like you showed me the way. Men are all rich assholes that abuse women and women are all spoiled whores that use men. Happy? It's equal now.
Oh go and drink your ovaltine and come back when you've calmed down. Honestly.
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
derelix said:
Serenegoose said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
I love it when a bunch of middle class or better white males decide that everything's equal.

I don't have much else to say here. This thread is horrendously disheartening.
The problem with privilege is if you have it, it's hard to see it, and when people point it out to others, it tends to make them defensive.

Really defensive.
right, like when woman are favored by our laws they like to ignore it.
God this thread has opened my eyes. Nobody deserves life. Humans are selfish useless little insects and people like you have shown me this, thank you.
Dumb, spoiled little B***** like you showed me the way. Men are all rich assholes that abuse women and women are all spoiled whores that use men. Happy? It's equal now.
... wait i am rich now? and i have a girlfriend that i somehow abuse when i didn't even know i have one? when do i get them? i take it i need to wait 7 business days for delivery + shipping?
Let me help you out there. No one actually said that aside from Derelix.
 

Serenegoose

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Ultratwinkie said:
you're not including the FAMILIES of the rich. the family is rich too since they have a person in the family with money.
That's completely irrelevant. Do you think I'm going to be persuaded by your assertion that I'm totally equal, because as long as I find a spiffy and wealthy husband, I can hang on to his coattails and away to fabulous riches!

Just a minute whilst I go and laugh until I vomit.
 

mr_rubino

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Don't get pissy now that he's in a tantrum. Your the ones who didn't nip it in the bud.
(Seriously though, what country is there on this planet where Indian women are the most privileged? I could sit here all night and not figure that one out. ...Indonesia maybe? Borneo? If he says India, I'll split my sides laughing.)