Fetish being your sexuality?

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aba1

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Bara_no_Hime said:
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There are a great deal of people whose fetish is just about the entirety of their sexuality. I think you could argue that being gay could be considered a fetish. I don't think most people care to think of it that way but it is essentially.
How about leave defining homosexuality for those who actually know what they're talking about or - shocking idea - who actually are gay. Kay? Thanks.

Yes, I know you used shield words like "essentially" and "could" but that doesn't make your post any less insulting.

Well unless, like KrazyKid, you also intend to label heterosexuality as a fetish. In which case, to misquote the Incredibles, when everything is a fetish, nothing is.
It is fine if you disagree with me I mean please feel free to. However if your going to call me wrong I just ask you provide some insight. Your not exactly convincing saying essentially "your wrong so shut up". I tend to think of kinks or fetishes as the sexual attraction to anything outside the norm (aka Vanilla sex).

So please take a seat I would love to hear your opinions and thoughts please feel free to change my mind all I ask is you don't be rude or insulting.
 

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It is fine if you disagree with me I mean please feel free to. However if your going to call me wrong I just ask you provide some insight. Your not exactly convincing saying essentially "your wrong so shut up". I tend to think of kinks or fetishes as the sexual attraction to anything outside the norm (aka Vanilla sex).

So please take a seat I would love to hear your opinions and thoughts please feel free to change my mind all I ask is you don't be rude or insulting.
I bolded the part where you are insulting the entire gay community.

This whole "you aren't normal" attitude is unhealthy, insulting, and homophobic. We are normal - saying we're outside the norm is not acceptable.

Being in the minority doesn't make a person abnormal.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
aba1 said:
It is fine if you disagree with me I mean please feel free to. However if your going to call me wrong I just ask you provide some insight. Your not exactly convincing saying essentially "your wrong so shut up". I tend to think of kinks or fetishes as the sexual attraction to anything outside the norm (aka Vanilla sex).

So please take a seat I would love to hear your opinions and thoughts please feel free to change my mind all I ask is you don't be rude or insulting.
I bolded the part where you are insulting the entire gay community.

This whole "you aren't normal" attitude is unhealthy, insulting, and homophobic. We are normal - saying we're outside the norm is not acceptable.

Being in the minority doesn't make a person abnormal.
I don't see what is worth getting butthurt over that statement. Hell, for the sake of this discussion, I'd take up his argument. I mean, if furries are considered a fetish, then how are gays different?
 

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BOOM headshot65 said:
My girlfriend, while still technically Asexual like me, is into Yaoi,
I don;t see how anyone can claim to be asexual..yet still get off to somthing (and in that case somthing pretty "norml"/specific)
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
aba1 said:
It is fine if you disagree with me I mean please feel free to. However if your going to call me wrong I just ask you provide some insight. Your not exactly convincing saying essentially "your wrong so shut up". I tend to think of kinks or fetishes as the sexual attraction to anything outside the norm (aka Vanilla sex).

So please take a seat I would love to hear your opinions and thoughts please feel free to change my mind all I ask is you don't be rude or insulting.
I bolded the part where you are insulting the entire gay community.

This whole "you aren't normal" attitude is unhealthy, insulting, and homophobic. We are normal - saying we're outside the norm is not acceptable.

Being in the minority doesn't make a person abnormal.
Being a minority does in fact make a person abnormal at least in that particular regard. The majority to make up what is the norm and what is not. That being said I am sorry you feel a negative connotation towards anything that makes people abnormal. I can assure you that being abnormal is not a bad or negative thing in any way. The very things that add the majority of our value are the things that make us unique or abnormal.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
aba1 said:
It is fine if you disagree with me I mean please feel free to. However if your going to call me wrong I just ask you provide some insight. Your not exactly convincing saying essentially "your wrong so shut up". I tend to think of kinks or fetishes as the sexual attraction to anything outside the norm (aka Vanilla sex).

So please take a seat I would love to hear your opinions and thoughts please feel free to change my mind all I ask is you don't be rude or insulting.
I bolded the part where you are insulting the entire gay community.

This whole "you aren't normal" attitude is unhealthy, insulting, and homophobic. We are normal - saying we're outside the norm is not acceptable.

Being in the minority doesn't make a person abnormal.
Since when was "abnormal" a bad thing? o_O
 

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Being a minority does in fact make a person abnormal at least in that particular regard. The majority to make up what is the norm and what is not. That being said I am sorry you feel a negative connotation towards anything that makes people abnormal. I can assure you that being abnormal is not a bad or negative thing in any way. The very things that add the majority of our value are the things that make us unique or abnormal.
Does being African American make someone abnormal?

How about Japanese-American?

How about a man? Slightly more women are born each year than men, and women live slightly longer on average, so that makes men the minority. Does that make being male abnormal?

Are people with blue eyes abnormal?

Abnormal does NOT mean "fewer" - it means "not normal". If you mean "in the minority" then say that.

For that matter, normal does not mean "most" - it means within an accepted range of expected results.

You expect a certain number of people to have blue eyes, or be born with other genetic markers like left-handed, or various races. You also expect a certain number of people - about 10%-15% - to be gay.

That makes it biologically normal. It is an expected percent of the population.

You may not be trying to be homophobic, but you are propagating homophobic ideals and I will not stand for that on this forum. Stop speaking like you live in the 1950s.
 

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lacktheknack said:
Since when was "abnormal" a bad thing? o_O
It isn't, in and of itself. However, saying that homosexuality is abnormal - when science has proven it a normal part of mammal sexuality - is ignorant and hateful. See my post(s) above.

Now sado-masochism - that is abnormal. And a ton of fun. ^^

You can be gay, which is normal, and have a kink or fetish, which is technically abnormal. Or you can be "vanilla" gay - just like you can be straight and kinky, or straight and vanilla. Or bi etc....
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
You may not be trying to be homophobic, but you are propagating homophobic ideals and I will not stand for that on this forum. Stop speaking like you live in the 1950s.
Ironically, you're being the most intolerant person in this thread. Stop acting like you're special so your feelings must never be hurt. Embrace your abnormalness, because being normal is mundane.

See what I did there? I put negative connotation on being normal. You can spin both terms both ways.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
aba1 said:
Being a minority does in fact make a person abnormal at least in that particular regard. The majority to make up what is the norm and what is not. That being said I am sorry you feel a negative connotation towards anything that makes people abnormal. I can assure you that being abnormal is not a bad or negative thing in any way. The very things that add the majority of our value are the things that make us unique or abnormal.
Does being African American make someone abnormal?
Well depends on the context in a room full of African Americans no, If we are talking American society as a whole yes.

Bara_no_Hime said:
How about Japanese-American?
Again depends on context


Bara_no_Hime said:
How about a man? Slightly more women are born each year than men, and women live slightly longer on average, so that makes men the minority. Does that make being male abnormal?
I wouldn't normally say no but I could see a argument being made for it based on context.

Bara_no_Hime said:
Are people with blue eyes abnormal?
Again context

Bara_no_Hime said:
Abnormal does NOT mean "fewer" - it means "not normal". If you mean "in the minority" then say that.

For that matter, normal does not mean "most" - it means within an accepted range of expected results.
You cannot use a the word within its own definition. The definition of normal is the usual or typical and the usual or typical is dictated by the majority.

Bara_no_Hime said:
You expect a certain number of people to have blue eyes, or be born with other genetic markers like left-handed, or various races. You also expect a certain number of people - about 10%-15% - to be gay.

That makes it biologically normal. It is an expected percent of the population.

You may not be trying to be homophobic, but you are propagating homophobic ideals and I will not stand for that on this forum. Stop speaking like you live in the 1950s.
This again is in the context of statistics. Yes it is typical to expect 10%-15% of people to be gay but people are also usually straight. It is all about context.
 

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well well, some said something stupid, like being gay was a fetish, and then people try to win the interwebz, congratulations you all. someone belonging to a minority doesnt want that part of humanity being called abnormal, and all you can do is discuss, would it hurt to just saya being gay isnt abnormal? would it hurt so much?
but congrats aba1, you stood your point, no matter what. in my abnormaly blue eyes (no its not special blue, its just blue, thats really sad, and sadly normal for the internet.

btw, if being gay is abnormal, so is wanting a blow job, or doing it without getting turned on just by procreating.

sexuality is diverse, we humans are great at that.
 

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Vault101 said:
BOOM headshot65 said:
My girlfriend, while still technically Asexual like me, is into Yaoi,
I don;t see how anyone can claim to be asexual..yet still get off to somthing (and in that case somthing pretty "norml"/specific)
Well Asexuality is the lack of attraction to others or the lack of interest in sex so even if you do the job by yourself/watch porn or whatever you can still be asexual.
 

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U71L7Y_F0RMUL4 said:
So much in fact that when I lost my virginity it was hard (Pardon the pun) to keep it up because we were doing it "Vanilla"

It's pretty much the only way I can get off.
I just was randomly strolling on the internet, and accidentally I became aware I have that problem. Well at least I don't have to blame the thickness of condoms.

SlaveNumber23 said:
Well Asexuality is the lack of attraction to others or the lack of interest in sex so even if you do the job by yourself/watch porn or whatever you can still be asexual.
That just sounds like a low sex drive or just some self-taught mentality. I mean, I went trough the same thing and I just ended up convincing myself I was asexual. I'm not saying that everyone who claims to be asexual is lying, but the fact is that I recognized I was lying to myself and there are just so many people on the internet who claim to be asexual that it's hard to believe anyone anymore.

Because those activities you mentioned don't sound like asexuality at all.

GTwander said:
I think I have a fetish with my penis.
Everything tends to involve it.
Well, without it you can't finish. You win the thread, lock it up.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
aba1 said:
It is fine if you disagree with me I mean please feel free to. However if your going to call me wrong I just ask you provide some insight. Your not exactly convincing saying essentially "your wrong so shut up". I tend to think of kinks or fetishes as the sexual attraction to anything outside the norm (aka Vanilla sex).

So please take a seat I would love to hear your opinions and thoughts please feel free to change my mind all I ask is you don't be rude or insulting.
I bolded the part where you are insulting the entire gay community.

This whole "you aren't normal" attitude is unhealthy, insulting, and homophobic. We are normal - saying we're outside the norm is not acceptable.

Being in the minority doesn't make a person abnormal.
Herp derp.

How does that insult the entire gay community? Not only is doing something outside the 'norm' not a bad thing (considering most people do things that aren't considered 'normal' on a daily basis), but vanilla sex could be interpreted as both vaginal and anal.
 

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Aylaine said:
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Alright, I guess it's time for another "weird sex" thread. Why? Because I say so. And I'm bored. It's just something that I felt like talking about after reading a random comic.

Do you know anyone whose fetishes or primary sexual fetish happen to be their entire sexuality? As in, the only or most satisfactory way they can get off? Or are you one of these people yourself? I can't think of any examples in the media, other than the obligatory paedophiles that get done for child molestation, child porn, or whatever.
I don't know anyone like that. Most of the people I know on a personal level (close friends, family) or a sexual level (my ex's) get off on a number of things. I'm certainly not like that. Being bisexual, I have more ways to reach happy land between both sexes then I know what to do with. ;)

I have to wonder if it's a bit frustrating to be singular in what someone gets off on, though.
Trust me it is. The fact that I can only get off on my particular fetish gets annoying. Don't get me wrong though, I love it, but there are a few downsides:

1. Get a girlfriend; tell girlfriend about fetish; girlfriend (figuratively) runs away screaming. No more girlfriend.

2. If I hide it from a partner and try to be "normal" I find it extremely difficult to ahem... "perform".

3. Porn, just porn. If it's "normal" and you get caught then you know, whatever. Sure it's a little embarassing but everyone does it. My porn? Well let's just say that's how you lose friends.
 

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ElPatron said:
That just sounds like a low sex drive or just some self-taught mentality. I mean, I went trough the same thing and I just ended up convincing myself I was asexual. I'm not saying that everyone who claims to be asexual is lying, but the fact is that I recognized I was lying to myself and there are just so many people on the internet who claim to be asexual that it's hard to believe anyone anymore.
Asexuality doesn't necessarily mean you won't have sex or never be attracted to anything, just that you aren't interested in having sex with other people. Some Asexual people will have sex for the sake of their partners. It can manifest itself in different ways for different people but the definition of it is pretty broad.
 

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I would argue that even "Vanilla" sex can be a fetish, if one finds it arousing, to the exclusion of all other forms of sex.

Also, context can play a big part too. People with impregnation fetishes, for instance, might not care about what body parts or positions are used, so long as there is a significant risk of a resulting pregnancy from the sexual act. Maybe it fits in with a "risk" fetish? (Not the board game)