FFX-2 Review aka Was This $7 Well Spent?

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Skiff_Manchester

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Well having a broken 360 had one good side effect and that was that I dug up my PS2 to play a copy of Final Fantasy X, and I loved it. Final Fantasy X's ending did to me what watching Gray's Anatomy does to my sister in law so I looked it up online to see if there was anything, such as an alternate ending, that I had missed. It was online that I discovered that, lo and behold, FFX was the very first Final Fantasy game to have a direct sequel. The next day I went out to a used record store and found copy for $7, brought it home, and dove right in. FFX-2's cover art [http://www.ffshrine.org/ffx2/coverscans/ffx2_us.jpg] and opening video [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdmJlbK-_r4] did not inspire confidence. I am going to assume you have played FFX, if you haven't then you must be here for me, and I can't blame you.

The Set Up

It's been 2 years since Sin's defeat Yuna has been living a quiet life in her hometown of Besaid. The fall of Yevon has all but split the populace of Spira into 2 factions: New Yevon and the Youth League. New Yevon is basically Old Yevon with promises of being less evil and the Youth League is basically a bunch your standard anti-establishment young folk. Both groups want Yuna's support since shes's a huge celebrity, what with the whole world saving and everything, but she's reluctant to join either side since they would just use her to sway their numbers. One day her cousin Rikku shows up and hands a sphere of what looks like Tidus trapped in a cage. Yuna immediately gives up the quiet life and joins up with Rikku to find more spheres and hopefully more about Tidus.

The Game

This is, and arguably FFX was, Yuna's game. And to prepare for her role as Main Character she has studied at and graduated from the JRPG Unversity of Heroes where she majored in Silly Outfits [http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_f8FjsPLFGZk/Su-l0JVWi1I/AAAAAAAAAA0/cggxKnEfimQ/s1600/yuna1.jpg] with a minor in Running Like a Spaz. I know these are petty gripes but she runs with the motions of an excited 8 year old hunting Easter eggs. As Yuna you are a member of the Gullwings, a group of sphere hunters who mosey about Spira in their airship The Celsius, which looks like a cross between a lobster and a hot rod, doing various missions but very little actual hunting of spheres.

The Celsius serves as your mission hub, allowing you access and transportation to various missions, a store, and a place to sleep. I was somewhat curious about the sleeping arrangements since the beds are in the same room as the bar/store and there are 3 beds and up to 10 people staying on the ship. That's gonna get awkward no matter how you slice it, especially when you throw in a chocobo or 2. The missions are all varied with most ending with some sort of boss fight for what is a Final Fantasy Game without the combat? Well, it would be alot of walking about talking to people...which is also what some missions entail.

At one point you have to pick which faction to kinda join up with. All this really does is unlock a couple of sidquests for that faction and block off the sidequests for the opposing one. If there was an impact on the story I didn't see it.

The Combat

Gone is FFX's standard take-your-time turn based combat. FFX-2 uses the Active Time Battle (ATB). The difference between the two is that when playing FFX your enemies sat there patiently while you decided what to do and in FFX-2 they continue smacking you about while you poke about your inventory looking for the damn antidotes you seem to have misplaced. Thankfully you can change the combat to Wait Mode which stops all the action while you pick abilites/items/targets. The sphere grid leveling system is gone (Awww) and is replaced by basic increases in stats each time you level up. As much as I liked the sphere grid I think that removing it for the new dress sphere system was a good idea.

Dress Spheres are essentially classes your characters can assume. Dress spheres are kept on various equipable Garment Grids [http://www.freewebs.com/yuna_g-unit/1079081301garment_grid.jpg]. You must keep in mind that you can only switch to nodes adjacent to the one you are currently using, so planning ahead is a factor. This system adds great flexibility and variety to the combat without any of the tedious grinding to level up a character you rarely use. Need a healer? Have Yuna switch to the white mage dress sphere. Need more health/defense? Switch to the Dark Knight. The fight is too easy and you need some one to dance around and waste time? Switch over to the Songstress! Tired of thinking, using strategy, and you want to dress like a tart? Switch over to the Lady Luck Dress Sphere [http://www.freewebs.com/ffx2_yuna3/Ladyluck.jpg]!

What This Game Did Wrong, Very Wrong, and Horribly Wrong

Rikku and her, aptly named I might add, brother Brother have such terrible dialogue, voice acting, and motions during cut scenes you want to tear out the lungs of one of them so you can smother the other one to death with them. Would being smothered by lungs be considered irony? I'm not sure. Normally I can let stuff like bad voice acting slide but I liked Rikku's character before this game and Brother is just that annoying. Only Yuna, Paine, and maybe Buddy are not horrible when they talk.

Just about all the maps in this game are airlifted straight out of FFX, and any new content is mostly bland corridors for you to run down.

All the mini-games, and there's plenty, are terrible, tedious, annoying, tedious and annoying, or all of the above. The only one I enjoyed was the one I have seen the most bitching about and that's Sphere Break, but then again I've always like math so what do I know.

The story. I'm perfectly fine with hidden items and treasure in a game. They are a reward for my thoroughness at exploration. One of the hidden treats you find in a game should NOT BE THE MAIN STORY. A hidden side-plot? Sure. A look into a character's dark past? Definitely. But never never important plot information unless it leads up to a twist in the story the player has a hand in creating. This game is broken into 5 chapters, and there is no going back once a chapter is complete. So if you missed, in lets say chapter 2, who the bad guy is or, in chapter 3, why the bad guy is trying to destroy the world then you are shit out of luck. You just have to go fight him because the game tells you to.

The good ending. No, not the ending itself and I'm not going to spoil it for you or even tell you specifically how to get it. There are something like 5 different ways this game can end. Getting the good ending is the main reason I bought this game but to get it, and I am not making this up, you have to push X at certain times during 2 different cutscenes. The game does not tell you this, or vaguely hint that user input might be fortuitous at those specific times. I only knew about it because I looked it up on my 2nd play through.

Chapter 4 is just terrible. The vast majority of chapter 4's content is you talking to people over a video phone. I can't imagine what kind of boring person thought that was a good idea for a video game, I can only hope Square fired them.

Also, as a last complaint, I can think of at least twice where during a cutscene a treasure chest is plainly visible but when the scene ends you are immediately whisked away back aboard the Celsius. Screw that.

So..umm..should I buy it?

Admittedly this game probably did more things wrong than it did right. But one of the things it did right was the character Yuna. Sure in FFX she didn't show much emotion or liveliness, but she was basically marching to her death. Sacrificing herself to bring a brief peace to her world and keeping a brave face to give hope to the people. This made it all the more potent when she finally broke under pressure and the temptation to quit and showed some of that pent-up emotion. This game shows her trying to live for herself and, for once, have some damned fun and it does a decent job of that.

As for a recommendation I am not entirely sure. The combat is very well done and the story, if you find it, is intriguing. I thought Yuna's character was good enough to hold up a sequel but if you disagree then this game is not for you. If the idea of diving back into Spira for about 30 more hours sounds utterly irressistable and you can forgive some rather glaring flaws then pick this game up. Like the title says, I paid seven whole dollars for it so that is probably coloring my opinion a bit. Had I gotten FFX right when it came out, beat it, then waited for FFX-2 to be realease and paid $50 for it I think this review might have been angrier.
 

King of the Sandbox

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I just couldn't bring myself to play this game. It just seemed a little too "Barbie's Magical Dress-Up Final Fantasy" for me.

Plus, Paine is no Lulu.
 

King of the Sandbox

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migo said:
Change the title, it contains a spoiler.
For a game that came out 10 YEARS ago.

That'd be like someone telling you that Aeris/Aerith dies in FFVII and you shouting "SPOILERS, dammit!"!
 

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As FFX is my favourite of all the Final Fantasies that i've played, i was thinking of getting this but after all the shit it was getting and after seeing video's of it on Youtube, it didn't interest me much.

I might check it out sometime though, good review though!

NameIsRobertPaulson said:
I loved the combat, which was some of the best in the series. The story was crap on a stick. The characters (Specifically Brother and Rikku) need to jump in a lake with cement boots. Paine and Yuna were okay. But I liked this game. It kept things interesting. Always something to do every chapter. And I feel it is a better game than FFXII or FFXIII, and I liked XXII. My hatred for XIII is well known.

Overall, my top is
1. FFX
2. FF7
3. FF6
4. FFX-2
5. FFXII
6. FFXVIII





999. Getting my dick head pierced.



9999. Being skinned, dumped in raw sewage.




99999. Being impregnated by a wasp, followed by the babies eating my guts and bursting out of my pores while I am still alive.
100000. FFXIII
Why is FF18 on there? It hasn't been released yet! *Chuckle*. It worries me that you would prefer XII to XIII. XII was despicable and horrible and XIII was great! :D
 

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It was a fun game, it just wasn't serious. I recently started replaying both and the difference in quality is immediately obvious, it doesn't make X-2 bad, just it's not in X's league.

The combat is fun, but the leveling system, whilst being interesting and flexible, rewards prolonged battles and deliberately not killing your enemy which LOTOR: The Third Age (horrible game) proved was a bad idea.

The ending of the story is great, the story is surprisingly malleable and it's easy enough not to miss the major parts of the story if you know what you are doing. But the start and middle are fairly boring and the last boss fights aren't expiring. The serious downer is the mentioned random things you have to do to see bits of it. This game needs to be played after you've read a game guide, which is really the wrong way round.

It also gives a nice bit of nostalgia to some of the characters, places and ideas that weren't ended at X.

In the end, it's a game which shouldn't be bought new, but should be bought if you loved X and you see it reduced anywhere (which it's impossible not to)
 

Sonicron

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I like your writing style, keep it up. The text is broken up enough to avoid the 'giant wall of text' feeling, but perhaps you could try to splice the pictures into the text next time (like in a magazine)... makes the whole thing look more inviting. Still, nice review!

I still have FFX around here somewhere, but I never even got close to finishing it... is it worth it?
 

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DuplicateValue said:
King of the Sandbox said:
migo said:
Change the title, it contains a spoiler.
For a game that came out 10 YEARS ago.
Uh, I'm currently playing through FFX, and I did not know that...
Didn't know what, exactly?

That you have to save Tidus or something? Yeah, I'm sure that completely ruined the game for you, huh?

Look, I don't mean to be cynical, but being mad about spoilers, that don't really give anything away, for a game that has been out for almost half of the common poster's life, is nothing criminal.

Newer games, sure. A couple of years old, sure. Almost a decade? Get over it. Would Super Mario Bros be ruined if I told you the Princess isn't in the first castle? If so, then Toad's gonna piss you off something awful once you get there.
 

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King of the Sandbox said:
DuplicateValue said:
King of the Sandbox said:
migo said:
Change the title, it contains a spoiler.
For a game that came out 10 YEARS ago.
Uh, I'm currently playing through FFX, and I did not know that...
Didn't know what, exactly?

That you have to save Tidus or something? Yeah, I'm sure that completely ruined the game for you, huh?

Look, I don't mean to be cynical, but being mad about spoilers, that don't really give anything away, for a game that has been out for almost half of the common poster's life, is nothing criminal.

Newer games, sure. A couple of years old, sure. Almost a decade? Get over it. Would Super Mario Bros be ruined if I told you the Princess isn't in the first castle? If so, then Toad's gonna piss you off something awful once you get there.
Of course I'm not mad, I was just pointing out that no matter how old a game is, spoilers still actually spoil the story for people who just discovered/got into it.

And sure it's nothing criminal, but it doesn't take much effort to have some common courtesy, does it?
Just because you don't care if an old game is spoiled for you, doesn't mean that everyone else thinks the same.
 

King of the Sandbox

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DuplicateValue said:
King of the Sandbox said:
DuplicateValue said:
King of the Sandbox said:
migo said:
Change the title, it contains a spoiler.
For a game that came out 10 YEARS ago.
Uh, I'm currently playing through FFX, and I did not know that...
Didn't know what, exactly?

That you have to save Tidus or something? Yeah, I'm sure that completely ruined the game for you, huh?

Look, I don't mean to be cynical, but being mad about spoilers, that don't really give anything away, for a game that has been out for almost half of the common poster's life, is nothing criminal.

Newer games, sure. A couple of years old, sure. Almost a decade? Get over it. Would Super Mario Bros be ruined if I told you the Princess isn't in the first castle? If so, then Toad's gonna piss you off something awful once you get there.
Of course I'm not mad, I was just pointing out that no matter how old a game is, spoilers still actually spoil the story for people who just discovered/got into it.

And sure it's nothing criminal, but it doesn't take much effort to have some common courtesy, does it?
Just because you don't care if an old game is spoiled for you, doesn't mean that everyone else thinks the same.
Before I leave to prevent any further inane derailment of this review, please explain to me what was spoiled, exactly? And how, exactly, does it crush your interest in playing the game?
 

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Good review. Like yourself I never played FFX-2 when it first came out (well, I didn't buy FFX when it first came out either but that's a different story), and for what it is, it is good.
I agree that one of the biggest bug-bears of the game is the chapters and not being able to go back to the previous chapters' missions even when you've missed something important out. *gurrr*, such a pain.
A thorough review, and I like your writing style. Nice one.
 

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Overall, my top is
1. FFX
2. FF7
3. FF6
4. FFX-2
5. FFXII
6. FFVIII

999. Getting my dick head pierced.

9999. Being skinned, dumped in raw sewage.

99999. Being impregnated by a wasp, followed by the babies eating my guts and bursting out of my pores while I am still alive.
100000. FFXIII
Hahaha. That made me piss blood I laughed so hard.

Personally mine go:
1: FFVII
2: FFIX
3: FFXII
4: FFVI
5: FFX

9998: FFVIII
9999: FFX-2
10000: FFXIII

I really loved FFXII, though I think because it lacked a lot of the stamples that I found annoying in previous FF's. No over the top dramatic angsty charactes. A political storyline that felt mature. Fantastic voice overs (Balthier is one of the best in any JRPG for me). A huge open world to explore. And of course, the hunts. Damn did I love those hunts. Spent roughly 60 hours on those.

I loved all these things. They're just "not FF". I considered it to be the evolution FF personally. Where the series was headed. I was not expecting it to devolve several thousand generations into the over-CGI'ed, brain dead sludge like FFXIII. Disappoint. I'd take FFXII over that crap any day.
 

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King of the Sandbox said:
migo said:
Change the title, it contains a spoiler.
For a game that came out 10 YEARS ago.

That'd be like someone telling you that Aeris/Aerith dies in FFVII and you shouting "SPOILERS, dammit!"!
AGH!!! SPOILERS dammit!

On a side note, I couldn't stand the story of the game... the game it's self was "fine", the story was rubbish.
 

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King of the Sandbox said:
Before I leave to prevent any further inane derailment of this review, please explain to me what was spoiled, exactly? And how, exactly, does it crush your interest in playing the game?
I never said it spoiled it for me (though now I guess I know something's gonna happen to Tidus, whatever it doesn't matter) - all I said was that the fact that it's 10 years old doesn't matter.

You're the one who started arguing.
 

King of the Sandbox

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FaustCainus said:
King of the Sandbox said:
migo said:
Change the title, it contains a spoiler.
For a game that came out 10 YEARS ago.

That'd be like someone telling you that Aeris/Aerith dies in FFVII and you shouting "SPOILERS, dammit!"!
AGH!!! SPOILERS dammit!

On a side note, I couldn't stand the story of the game... the game it's self was "fine", the story was rubbish.
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

But seriously, I theorize a similar impression of it now, gameplay wise. At least, from what I saw when my friend was playing it, now that I think back on it.

The fact that she was a girl, and was going on and on about the "pretty, pretty outfits", did not help my opinion of it at the time, y'see...
 

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Sonicron said:
I still have FFX around here somewhere, but I never even got close to finishing it... is it worth it?
its worth finishing and playing around with after finishing. well, if you're into JRPG's it is (which i am sure you are, otherwise it would be pointless asking the question you asked)

To the OP, congratulations, you made a very good review. I mean this in Multiple ways. It had the correct level of humour and petty-point-outs to make it enjoyable to read and make us want to read on. I think you hit all the points necessary without hitting on anything that we aren't too bothered about (such as the existance of a character called "Shinra", which although it does make me grit my teeth, isn't too funny to take the mick of).

Someone else mentioned about having pictures; yet i don't think they were needed at all especially considering anything Final Fantasy X-2 related would more than likely be a skimpily dressed girl and not really add much to the review. Unless you did one of those funny captions underneath... that would be awesome and effective :D

the only qualm i've got against you is that you seemed to think that FFX-2 was essential and without knowing the 'Good ending' you would have been dissapointed with the FFX series. but thats just personal preference, i like how Final Fantasy X ended and found FFX-2 uncompelling. but i am quite fond of the battle system from it, so it is forgiven. and i can't really complain to you about that, because like i said, its matter of opinion, which can be very simply solved by you Playing FFX-2 (or watching the good ending on Youtube) and me just leaving it at FFX and deluding myself by saying that it stopped there.

Anyway, Superb review, well done. If you've done anymore, i'll have to go read them now :)
 

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DuplicateValue said:
King of the Sandbox said:
Before I leave to prevent any further inane derailment of this review, please explain to me what was spoiled, exactly? And how, exactly, does it crush your interest in playing the game?
I never said it spoiled it for me (though now I guess I know something's gonna happen to Tidus, whatever it doesn't matter) - all I said was that the fact that it's 10 years old doesn't matter.

You're the one who started arguing.
Yes, arguing now the fact that it being nearly a decade old DOES matter. I feel exactly the same way about it as I would telling someone about the Princess/Toad/Castle thing.

Instead of feeling like I robbed them of a great experience (which I would loathe, as I am a huge opponent of spoilers, believe it or not), I can't feel the same need for caution when a game has been available, talked about, reviewed, Let's Play'd, and FAQ'd to death over nearly 8 years after it's release. People don't just stumble over games like this willy nilly, especially if you're a video game forum participant, because you probably heard about it from somewhere on a board and read more than a few posts on it.

And actually, I wasn't really arguing with you, or at all, just confused really, as to why someone would be dense enough to really call SPOILERZOMGZ on a game this old.

But whatevs, it's not my issue anyway. Not my thread. But I will stop cluttering it up now. Thanks.