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[Maximum Bert]

I've been considering getting SFV for PC, but I've been hesitant because I still prefer DoA5, the PC population for fighting games has never been amazing, much less for a rocky launch like SFV had and as far as I know they still haven't added the actual Story Mode yet. But I still kind of want to get it and have some fun with it.

SFV released its story mode in June/July (cant remember exactly) at least for console so I am assuming its the same for PC since I have heard no different (yes assuming so pl check). It is terrible by the way just like DOAs not a patch on BB or Persona 4 Arenas games which I personally hold the high standard to and not up to MK9s either although possibly on the same levels as MKXs (which I found terrible as well).

If you are going to buy one fighter on PC out of DOA and SFV I would get SFV its not a great deal but DOA5 was (possibly still is) terrible on release. Honestly they released it in an absolute disgusting state worse than SFV and that is not something to be proud of (better than MKX though).

If you were on PS4 I would say DOA5 is a much much better proposition than SFV in terms of content and presentation though not online representation (but then not much has as SF has the brand) I would also say DOA5 also provides much more bang for your buck and provides at least as good as a fighting game engine although this is ofc highly subjective as both are very competent in this regard.

If I was going to say on fighter to get on PC over its console version I would go with Skullgirls.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Merry Christmass thread and may your astral heats rock!


(Also happy birthday to Noel Vermillion.)

 

[klaynexas3]

I feel bad for disappearing for a fair bit of time. How many people still frequent this thread? Also, anyone get a good haul for Christmas? And is anyone still playing BBCF much right now? I picked it up when it came out but didn't get to play it much due to low attention span, but want to get back to playing either it more or GGXrd if many people are still playing that either. I will also be getting Tekken 7 when it releases, so if anyone wants someone to play with that I will most definitely be down, Tekken is what got me into fighting games to begin with back in the day.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Yeah I main BB, I must have put like 6 hours on it just yesterday lol. Not played as much Xrd recently because BB has a ton of new stuff to learn while Revelator changed very few things with each balance update so outside of the new chars there wasn't much discovery to be made but of course I'm always up for matches in it too, as well as nitroplus and uniel and dengeki and jp arcana.

 

[Paragon Fury]

I've been considering getting SFV for PC, but I've been hesitant because I still prefer DoA5, the PC population for fighting games has never been amazing, much less for a rocky launch like SFV had and as far as I know they still haven't added the actual Story Mode yet. But I still kind of want to get it and have some fun with it.

SFV released its story mode in June/July (cant remember exactly) at least for console so I am assuming its the same for PC since I have heard no different (yes assuming so pl check). It is terrible by the way just like DOAs not a patch on BB or Persona 4 Arenas games which I personally hold the high standard to and not up to MK9s either although possibly on the same levels as MKXs (which I found terrible as well).

If you are going to buy one fighter on PC out of DOA and SFV I would get SFV its not a great deal but DOA5 was (possibly still is) terrible on release. Honestly they released it in an absolute disgusting state worse than SFV and that is not something to be proud of (better than MKX though).

If you were on PS4 I would say DOA5 is a much much better proposition than SFV in terms of content and presentation though not online representation (but then not much has as SF has the brand) I would also say DOA5 also provides much more bang for your buck and provides at least as good as a fighting game engine although this is ofc highly subjective as both are very competent in this regard.

If I was going to say on fighter to get on PC over its console version I would go with Skullgirls.

I should've made it clearer - I already own DoA5: LR on Xbox One. I was just looking at getting SFV on PC because I liked SFIV and was hoping it'd gotten better by now.

Since it was only $40 for the Complete 2017 package I picked it up during the Steam Sale this weekend.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Happy New year folks.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

I feel bad for disappearing for a fair bit of time. How many people still frequent this thread? Also, anyone get a good haul for Christmas? And is anyone still playing BBCF much right now? I picked it up when it came out but didn't get to play it much due to low attention span, but want to get back to playing either it more or GGXrd if many people are still playing that either. I will also be getting Tekken 7 when it releases, so if anyone wants someone to play with that I will most definitely be down, Tekken is what got me into fighting games to begin with back in the day.

I am glad people are still here. Ive been so busy lately so its nice to know people still use this.

Tekken 7's home port is not out until Feburary. Hopefully I will have my CPU upgraded before then.

 

[K-sha]

picked up a copy of aquapazza a used gaming store was trying to get rid of. probably won't find anyone to play with, but we will see how I like it. and it should be worth having just as an examu fan

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Love that game, hate its netcode. Aquapazza is the basis for the assist system in N+ which is the best system ever and also shows how a game with a SF-style pace and systems (no airdashes, no air block, small combos etc.) can still be interesting. Also the active flow system in BB is inspired by the emotion system in aquapizza, so that is another plus.


I don't actually own the game myself though, it is a locals only thing, you can do literally nothing that you wanna do when playing online due to the game being a relatively strict one inputwise, where input delay simply massacres you, and the netcode is arguably the worst one out of any airdashed made in the last generation, so after borrowing the game from peope at locals for a while I thoroughly gave up on its netplay after a few weeks. It was kinda dead too, and this is like back 3 years ago.


Oh and happy new hear and happy birthday to my main Bang .

 

[K-sha]

AP is really fun. Thankfully it's got ABC combos, double jumps for most characters and the 3 button layout+game specific button I've gotten used to. I still some times do things like try to air dash, jump cancel combo, etc. I can play this game even though I can't seem to play games like KOF and SF at all, since I can't even do ABC combos, and have too much habits from air dashers.

I love how rediculous some of the characters are, especially Multi and Manaka. It's probably got the best stage backgrounds of any fighting game I know of; Anime convention, porshe, randomness, etc. Even Yukiko from persona is in this game, and Akiha from Melty blood. at least it looked like them, even though one was assist, and the other played nothing like her. If only they had stages like this in Nitroplus Blasterz.

btw Arcana Heart 4 is announced. This is exciting times. We got hope for a new console AH game.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Haha and we brought up a potential ah4 not too long ago. Hope wins in the end .

The char I use the most was Arawn, he ended up being a simple char but his meter drain stuff is relly cool, especially the ice super, also his passive trait isa buff to his assist damage by 25% because he is the most charismatic demon overlord ever, god tears to tira was damn amazing. Oboro is also very cool, they even included his trapsitants. And yeah the game has chain cancel unlike KoF or SF so you don't have to master links but the actual combos are short unles you spend meter. This was the first game that made me enjoy basic footsies since it has all that crazy stuff to make it not be boring.

 

[K-sha]

it seems like timing of doing regulars in combos is a lot more strict, or I rarely seem to be able to pull them off. I can't seem to do the sample combos in training mode. i was lucky i managed to get someone to play with, and as expected got beaten a lot, but i did manage to win some rounds. I seem to always forget I can't airblock. It seems like there's sometimes input lag online in this game, which is more annoying than the slowdown lag.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Yeah like I said the input delay makes it unplayable, I went online after already being used to offline tournament play and the difference was staggering. And yeah the combos are tight like in a SF game, the special cancel windows are small and you have to hitconfirm off of one or two buttons max. It is hard enough offline really. Also this is the kind of game with heavy scaling so you don't wanna do too long combos as the cost of too much meter cause by the end it'll do almost nothing.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

I have wanted to go to EVO for years and it seemd like every time I say "next year will be the year" the following year my money totally disappears and im lucky even if can even make my local events. Its sad but im trying to maintain some form of hope.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

I am still not too pleased about Marvel VS Capcom Infinite. As sad as my relationship ended with 3 I may end up liking it more than Infinite but I have to play it first. At least its coming to PC and maybe Capcom will do cross-play again and if so it deserves respect for that. I know Sony are pricks when it comes to cross-play, and to be fair big companies are usually pricks about everything, but they need to get with the times and just greenlight it more often since it usually comes down to then. If Nintendo is really pushing the Switch as hard as they need to(I really look forward to the Switch) then it needs to embrace crossplay as well even if we do not currently know hardly any online based multi plats for it. Even with my PC still not ready im still hugely looking forward to the home port of Tekken 7 FR. I wish I could play the arcade version more but at least we have it outside Japan even if its hard to get to.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Injustice 2 is looking worse to me the more I see of it but if you look forward to it then good luck and have fun. I will say I recommend people try the first game. That may seem weird because in fact I do not like Injustice: Gods Among Us for a number of reasons, but it is not offensive and actually does feel a little unique. Maybe its just me wanting to play every fighting game I possibly can and appreciate every opportunity and every little thing about games I hate, love, and in between but it is a mildly unique fighting game and it saddens me that 2 looks so unappealing when it looks like a better version of the first game mechanic wise.

 

[K-sha]

i've never been to a any tournament, or local scheme. I dont know how Evo would be more attractive than any local scheme, other than bigger prize money, which wouldn't matter unless I competed. evo seems uninteresting for me, because no games that interest me were last year. I had some interest in revelator, but didnt get to play it too much, and it got over shadowed by other games when i had time. Only side tournaments seem interesting to me. I don't understand how they can not have BBCF and 2 versions of smash instead.

CEOtaku, Examu cup, etc seems more interesting to watch for me.
I dont know if it's just me, I tend to just like watching players from games I play or have interest in. I can actually see if i can learn something, and be wowed at higher skill levels, or just have an idea how a game plays. sometimes good commentators can atleast make things a little more entertaining, even if I'm not a fan of a particular game.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Evo is just one big tournament, it isn't different than other ones, it's just a bit bigger and has a larger focus on capcom stuff to the exclusion of other games. It has the feeling of being at a convention if you've ever been to an anime convention, but like, only for fighters. It has panels etc.

I think people who have never been there place it (and tournaments and tournament players) in a pedestal. It's kinda like when you hear someone say "he goes to tournaments" as a signifier of someone being good. Well, no, tourneys are just fun to be at due to the atmosphere and community, you aren't good by definition cause you go there, all you need to go there is spare income, you can be the worst player in the planet and still go to tourneys. Now, if someone regularly places in the top 8 or something, that, that is valuable .

 

[K-sha]

I'm guessing more players=more viewers=more money. I am not sure if too many viewers are non players. Still kind of sad that MVC3=old game, that wasnt even being sold, until the recent rerelease, due to marvel/capcom internal problems, for awhile and at evo. BBCF=popular new game that's not there.

maybe someday i might try some tournaments myself for fun eventually, but not sure. I haven't followed locals schemes at all, and don't know any. I know I will probably lose badly, against most of the common players, and don't want to travel for one.

anyways This is what I'm hoping AH4 has.
1.a decent tutorial mode, challenge mode, so more people can learn basics easier, and I wouldnt of had to go thru so much hell trying to learn it.
2.more options in training mode, replays, etc. it'll be cool to be able to rewind, slow motion, see button presses, etc. training mode can let you set things like continuous attack, play 2 player, etc.
3.a story mode. I liked the after story and cards of glory that ah3lm has. I hope it's not just a regular arcade mode like original ah3 and most non aksys fighting games. or something super confusing like nitro+. library mode like bbcf/ggxrd would help people understand the characters/lore more, and hopefully attract casuals, and help hard cores like characters more.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Actually, most people who watch streams are nonplayers or at the very least unserious ones, think about it, why watch others play when you yourself could be playing. As someone who is competitive, while I consume a ton of footage after the event, I always prefer to participate in the event and watch it later than watch it live and give it twitch views or something as twitch is inefficient and has a lot of wasted time. This is why marvel 3 is big, it is very flashy and something always happens so a lot of casual people like to watch it. You don't need to know much to be able to tell that the guy who did the 100 hit combo did well and the guy who lost 2 characters in said 100 hit combo failed.


As for arcana 4, I want it to come to actual consoles in a timely fashion and to change up some of the extremely broken stuff like everything Zenia does now lol. Also some of the super inputs are hard to do without stick like Akane's ultimate so maybe modernize those a bit too.