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Grahav

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Simply, I want to talk about fighting Games. It is rare to see something about them in the escapist news, so I ask the opinion of you fellows about them...

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As Yahtzee has said once, these games are a celebration of the characters. Character design, personality and back story is what draws me to them.
 

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Ok what did you want to talk about in particular these characters and games maybe? Not sure if thats what you are getting at but ill share my view on each one because why the hell not.

Hisako and the new KI: always liked KI back in the day played it a lot on the SNES I enjoyed what I played of the new one but dont own an Xbox One due to the BS MS tried to pull with it so cant give an accurate opinion of what I feel after prolonged play. Graphically I think its not great for a next gen title but that doesnt really bother me artistically I love the use of colour and some of the models but others look very odd and stiff namely the more human ones but its not bad enough to really turn me off. I do not like the way they have released it though 18 pounds for a few characters in a season with nothing but online play and a very poor arcade mode is very pricy and its still not complete now.

I just feel they should have had more content at the start and then release it I.e postpone it until the end of this year then release it with all the season 1 and 2 characters and the story mode for 35 pounds that would have been better imo but instead it was rushed out unfinished to meet the Xbox Ones launch which was a shame. As for Hisako I quite like her I wish they would have added more of their own spin on the whole Japanese movie ghost thing but I can appreciate thats not really what KI does from what I have seen of her though I think she looks good and have little complaints about her. If I ever owned the new version of KI I would definitely try her out. All the extra costumes and decorative items in KI are among the worst I have ever seen they all look completely out of place and dont fit any character in any way.

Mortal Kombat X::Ive never been a fan of MK since the first one I have thought it a very poor fighter so what I say for the new one will likely piss some people off. MK9 was the first MK that did not completely suck in every regard imo and it looks like MKX will be more of the same. I wont be getting it on release and for a long time purely becasue of the huge witholding of characters they are doing yet again I got Injustice (big mistake) but I am not doing it this time until the Komplete edition come out like I did with MK9. I love the backgrounds of a lot of stages in MKX they look lovely and some of the new characters look really cool honestly if it wasnt for the preorder and DLC BS I would give it a go on release. However a lot of my bugbears about MK9 remain (well all MKs actually) and that is the character models for the humans are not great the women in particular just look hideous and I dont mean not sexy I mean as in bad (Kitanas new pose just really bugs me as well) secondly the animation I just find awful nothing feel like it connects properly and bits are to fast while other parts are to slow which just makes hitting someone very unsatisfying which is bad if thats all your doing.

They do have great single player modes though MK9s story is probably the third best single player story to a fighter I have ever seen (was first when I saw it but the original P4A and Blazblue Chrono have since surpassed it for me) really Netherrealms and Arc seem to be the only two who bother with a story (that does not feel completely shoehorned in/ superfluous) the challenge mode in MK9 was also great fun hopefully MKXs is more like that than the Injustice one which was not so good. As for the new fatalitys dont hate or love em it just encapculates what I feel of MK as a whoile and thats style overt substance (or rather quality of substance) its just that now they have upped the quality to an acceptable level in gameplay and done an excellent job of it in the single player experience. Im just curious if the online will still suck (my money is on it will). As for Erron Black no interest in that character at all traditionally I have always liked Scorpion and Kitana but while Scorpion seems ok in this one Kitana just looks bad her model still looks awful and that new pose makes it look even worse.

Skullgirls and Eliza: great game and great character I am always impressed by the fluidity of the animation everytime I play and the company does DLC properly new free character every few months regardless of whether you backed the Indiegogo campaign or not is a great move. My favourite character is Squigly but Eliza is right behind her. For the price of the game and what you get I really have very little complaints it released at a price point lower than KI season one and gave you a lot more content now its even cheaper and you get even more content. I am more a fan of non tag fighters though personally so that keeps me away a bit but really I have nothing but good things to say about this game. This game and UNIEL are very impressive new Ips and for Lab Zeros first game its amazing easily the best western made fighter out there atm imo. Some of the stories are a bit weak ill admit but Squiglys and Elizas are great and for the price I cant complain.

Street Fighter 5: Dont have much opinion on this yet but I am quietly hopeful I think it looks way better than 4 artistically and graphically I have never liked the art style of 4 and to a lesser extent 3 as well but this one looks good so far. Im not a fan of the gimmick aspect so far the breaking of the stage is nice if simple and I like that but the noodle on the head thing just looks trash hopefully they make it more dynamic or take it out. As for Charlie Nash I dont care one way or the other about him hes not a character I have ever been interested in. I predict most of the SF2 WWs will be back and I welcome that because to be honest they are SF. SF2 is the brand and has allowed Capcom to continue to dominate the 2D genre even though others have long since caught up with them in quality and in many ways surpassed them.

Persona 4 Ultimax: great game with great characters also amazing backgrounds and music story while not as good as the first is probably the best one I have seen for justifying non stop ridiculous battles without resorting to the fighting tournament fallback story. I personally find the game very hard to play I am just not good at these types of games im better at the slower paced ones like SF but I honestly dont have much bad to say about it except the DLC is BS not MK levels but bad enough. I am waiting to see what the patch brings (if they implement it) P4U is one of my favourite games to watch wish I had more time to practice it tbh. As for Adachi hes pretty cool my favourite to watch are Shadow Chie for the explosive damage and Shabrys because watching a good one like Bannannaken is very entertaining. I tend to play Shadow Chie (badly) tried Shabrys but she is way out of my abilities to play without serious time I dont have.

The new fighter (if you can call it that) I am most hyped for is the new Dissidia coming to japanese arcades we should be getting more info on April the 4th if Tifa is in the hype will continue if she not then it will be diminished greatly since shes my favourite videogame character of all time. Also I loved Duodecim so hoped are high. I should be going to Japan this year so hope the game out there by then.
 

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I love me some fighting games.I notice lack of 3D fighters in your list and I love me some Tekken en Soulcaliber. The only western Fg I have played a lot is injustice. I enjoyed that one and because of that I am curious to the upcoming MK game.
 

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Only fighting game I really play is SmashBros...
Not sure about others... not really like playing against other players, I guess games like Wonderful101 and Darksiders can be counted, sort of, into fighting games, but there's so much more into them and not just the fighting. So, not really into them I guess?
Can be fun when visiting a friend who plays them and have a little 1 on 1, but they are so difficult :p
 

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I love em. But i tend to go for the flashier kind. UMVC3 and guilty gear Xrd are on the top of my list right now. I liked p4A but the community is all but dead ( didn't touch ultimax). While i like to watch Street fighter tournaments i hate playing that game. MK and injustice feel too stiff and clunky for my liking. I have wanted a New KI since KI gold on the N64, but i'm not touching an xbone with a 10 foot pole. I absolutely HATE 3d fighters, i can't wrap my head around that 3rd dimention.

Oh and SSB is not a real fighting game, it's a party game.
 

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Grahav said:
Simply, I want to talk about fighting Games. It is rare to see something about them in the escapist news, so I ask the opinion of you fellows about them...
It is kind of irritating how little coverage major fighting game events get here. For example there is a major Street Fighter IV invitational going on right now in France (Red Bull Kumite) and we got nothing in terms of coverage. Nothing.
LegendOfLufia said:
Oh and SSB is not a real fighting game, it's a party game.
It's cute that people think this. Disparaging another communities game(s) is something I've never really understood.
 

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ThingWhatSqueaks said:
Grahav said:
Simply, I want to talk about fighting Games. It is rare to see something about them in the escapist news, so I ask the opinion of you fellows about them...
It is kind of irritating how little coverage major fighting game events get here. For example there is a major Street Fighter IV invitational going on right now in France (Red Bull Kumite) and we got nothing in terms of coverage. Nothing.
LegendOfLufia said:
Oh and SSB is not a real fighting game, it's a party game.
It's cute that people think this. Disparaging another communities game(s) is something I've never really understood.
And i never quite understood why people can't accept that others have opinions other than their own.
 

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The lack of coverage here never bothered me much, as I play for fun rather than competition (I'll lose or sandbag because it's more fun for me when everyone is having a good time). Topics on mains, frames/move, etc, quickly bore me, but I understand they have a place with the genre: it's just that other sites more on the pro-gaming end of things tend to meet those needs better than the escapist could with its current format. Plus there's always that snobby elitism that comes in any time anyone starts talking fighting games (we already had it in this thread with someone badmouthing smash bros). I think that attitude is part of the reason why fighting games aren't covered here that often.

Now to talk about actual games, I love smash bros and the dead or alive games (high speed rock paper scissors with super hot characters, hell yeah), and I casually enjoy other fighters like arcana hearts, skullgirls and marvel vs. The character designs and fandom surrounding mortal kombat and street fighter drove me away from those series, though: ugly character models and endless abuse as opposed to fun. I also hate impossible to beat story/arcade modes as I play a lot of single player (blazblue, I'm looking at you).

Nothing beats the bushido blade series, though: I loved the variety in the gameplay combined with the high risk (to both players) of every move. I really wish that series hadn't fallen by the wayside.
 

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I really like fighters like BlazBlue or UMVC3, I only first started liking fighting games when I bought UMVC3 on launch just so I could play Phoenix Wright, the outright worst character in the game. Whenever I see someone whine about underpowered characters in a fighter, I swear they know nothing of true underpowered. People say Tsubaki is UP in BB but I just see a somewhat lacklustre rushdown character with a weird little powerup mechanic that will make or break her. I'm sure that Persona 4 Arena/Ultimax has the best fighting system overall though, it's balanced as fuck.

I'm playing Ougon Musou Kyoku, AKA an Umineko No Naku Koro Ni fighting game. No idea why Japan does this stuff, it makes sense for Melty Blood because Tsukihime was an action based VN but Umineko is a kinetic novel that relies on being a mystery story with characters arguing logic with each other.

I'm loving it though, they translated it so well over to a fighting game, I can just play Battler vs Beatrice and have fun with that. Metaworld is such a great powerup mode, it feels like an Umineko thing too with one person declaring Metaworld and the other can deny it at the cost of their own Meta bar and this can stack up to like 3/4 times. Feels like two characters throwing point > counterpoint around. It's required when the CPU is playing Eva Beatrice and tries to cheese you with touch > Metaworld > best super for half your healthbar.

It's a 2v2 as well with the most unique form of SP building in that you build SP for your reserve character. AKA if you run my Battler/Ange team, if Battler is fighting he's building SP for Ange so when she swaps in, she jumps in with 5 bars and she starts building SP for Battler.
 

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Bombiz said:
why is Skull girls middle?
Because it is a game done by western developers with influence of the anime aesthetics, english voices, with sounftrack by Michiru Yamane.

So it is in the middle. Just a silly joke.

blackdwarf said:
I love me some fighting games.I notice lack of 3D fighters in your list and I love me some Tekken en Soulcaliber. The only western Fg I have played a lot is injustice. I enjoyed that one and because of that I am curious to the upcoming MK game.
I played the first 3 Soul Caliburs and was pretty good at it. But I got tired by the third game (horrible AI), the story was going nowhere, and the new generation of fighters isn't cutting for me. The fanservice tempted me to buy it but in the end I refused.

For 3d fighters I am playing Dead or Alive: Last Round. Got the update, pressed the 4 buttons at the top of the controler, got bikinis.

Yeah, yeah I bought for the fanservice (not a boobs man, love the panty shots), but the franchise conquered me when I countered a low kick with Ayane by stomping the foot of the enemy and then roundhousing the fool across the stage.

I am wondering if the new Tekken will be worth it.


ThingWhatSqueaks said:
It is kind of irritating how little coverage major fighting game events get here. For example there is a major Street Fighter IV invitational going on right now in France (Red Bull Kumite) and we got nothing in terms of coverage. Nothing.
I find it weird too. The crowd hype among tournaments is surreal, the cosplay community tends to like it (dozens of exotic designs)...

I wonder why? Is it a matter of taste? The staff, just doesn't play it? Or they just leave it to sites like shoryuken.com?

It is a shame. There is a lot they could talk about.



flying_whimsy said:
The lack of coverage here never bothered me much, as I play for fun rather than competition (I'll lose or sandbag because it's more fun for me when everyone is having a good time). Topics on mains, frames/move, etc, quickly bore me, but I understand they have a place with the genre: it's just that other sites more on the pro-gaming end of things tend to meet those needs better than the escapist could with its current format. Plus there's always that snobby elitism that comes in any time anyone starts talking fighting games (we already had it in this thread with someone badmouthing smash bros). I think that attitude is part of the reason why fighting games aren't covered here that often.

Now to talk about actual games, I love smash bros and the dead or alive games (high speed rock paper scissors with super hot characters, hell yeah), and I casually enjoy other fighters like arcana hearts, skullgirls and marvel vs. The character designs and fandom surrounding mortal kombat and street fighter drove me away from those series, though: ugly character models and endless abuse as opposed to fun. I also hate impossible to beat story/arcade modes as I play a lot of single player (blazblue, I'm looking at you).

Nothing beats the bushido blade series, though: I loved the variety in the gameplay combined with the high risk (to both players) of every move. I really wish that series hadn't fallen by the wayside.
flying_whimsy said:
The lack of coverage here never bothered me much, as I play for fun rather than competition (I'll lose or sandbag because it's more fun for me when everyone is having a good time). Topics on mains, frames/move, etc, quickly bore me, but I understand they have a place with the genre: it's just that other sites more on the pro-gaming end of things tend to meet those needs better than the escapist could with its current format. Plus there's always that snobby elitism that comes in any time anyone starts talking fighting games (we already had it in this thread with someone badmouthing smash bros). I think that attitude is part of the reason why fighting games aren't covered here that often.

Now to talk about actual games, I love smash bros and the dead or alive games (high speed rock paper scissors with super hot characters, hell yeah), and I casually enjoy other fighters like arcana hearts, skullgirls and marvel vs. The character designs and fandom surrounding mortal kombat and street fighter drove me away from those series, though: ugly character models and endless abuse as opposed to fun. I also hate impossible to beat story/arcade modes as I play a lot of single player (blazblue, I'm looking at you).

Nothing beats the bushido blade series, though: I loved the variety in the gameplay combined with the high risk (to both players) of every move. I really wish that series hadn't fallen by the wayside.
Read ypu post just after writing the answer to the previous one.

Never had Bushido Blade. But I do share the love for DoA and SSB. I found nothing wrong with SF and MK and if the fandom is shit I just play the games alone or with good friends. Well, at least here in Brazil, things seem to be civil in that aspect, (it is not many people who have these games.)

If other sites focus on the high technical aspect of fighters, maybe the Escapist could focus on the other features? Super Smash Bros and Mortal Kombat are adding tons of things to their games to diversify the experience.

And something I like a lot. Better story modes to these games. Guilty Gear XX had a very cool one (I will play Xrd in the future) with three paths, decided by your actions decisions. Blazblue is cool to but is really wordy. Mortal Kombat 9 story needed some polishing but had very nice moments.

Maximum Bert said:
Ok what did you want to talk about in particular these characters and games maybe? Not sure if thats what you are getting at but ill share my view on each one because why the hell not.

Lots of stuff
I posted those to inspire people to talk. It worked :)

KI is a tragedy for me since it is a X One exclusive. I really would like to have that game. Although, it is not next gen in terms of graphics, I love the character designs. Three guys, Three Gals and a lot of monsters.

I do miss a better story mode and alternate modes, too, though.

MK. Uhm. I do not agree that the character models are that ugly and that the hitting feels bad. Meh. Different opinions on taste. But it really is acomplex fighter, though.

Agreed word by word with the second paragraph. That's why I am buying it.

Skullgirls I think that they haven't put much quality on the first characters story, because of budget and time. But seeing in how much the fans loved and speculated about it, they put extra effort on the DLCs. Points for Lab Zero for hearing.

It is a great game and Beowulf will be submitted for console certification in a week. More story, get hyped.

SF 5. Well, we shall see.

Persona Ultimax. Love the characters. Specially the shadows. Story was okay for me. One thing that I don't like about it is the EXCESS of dialogue and text between the fights. Basically, the opposite problem generally of plots in fighting games:

Person 1: Hi!
Person A: Hi!

PUNCHES!

BONUS:

Hisako's theme from the new KI. I really loved it.

 

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Grahav said:
MK. Uhm. I do not agree that the character models are that ugly and that the hitting feels bad. Meh. Different opinions on taste. But it really is acomplex fighter, though.

Agreed word by word with the second paragraph. That's why I am buying it.
Yeah you dont have to agree people can like what they want no skin off my nose and while I havent played MKX yet (naturally) despite the issues I had with 9 I cant honestly call it a bad fighter same with Injustice which I had a lot more issues with than MK9. More fighters is always good I like most of them but there will always be some I am less keen on. Really this/last gen with have been spoiled with exemplary fighters I dont think overall we have had such quality games in the genre I mean just off the top of my head I have played and enjoyed (ok not played em all but most of these).

SF4 (and its iterations)
Blazblue Series
Soul Calibur 4 and 5 (Lost Swords can go and die in a fire somewhere)
MK9
Injustice
Under Night In Birth Exe Late (absolutely fantastic fighter that should get more attention)
Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax
Dead or Alive 5 (and its iterations)
Skullgirls
Virtua Fighter 5 (and eventually final showdown)
Persona 4 Arena (and Ultimax)
Guilt Gear Xrd
Arcana Hearts 3 (another one that wasnt my cup of tea but its definitely not a bad or poor game in anyway)
UMVC3 (and its quick update)
Tachinoko vs Capcom (never got rd to getting this unfortunately)
Tekken 6 and Tag 2 (never got these either got burned out on Tekken after 3. 2 is by far my favourite in the series but 7 should be a good point to jump back in for me)
King of Fighter XIII (found this one very impressive im not usually a KOF fan but I have always appreciated the quality of their games by and large and XIII was amazing although admittedly I have never tried 98 or 2002 unlimited yet)
Yatagarasu
Smash Bros WiiU (call it a fighter or not doesnt take away from the game)
Disidia (and more importantly its far superior sequel Duodecim)
Killer Instinct 3

thats it off the top of my head no doubt I have missed out a fair few and thats not counting the old classics that were released some well done others er not so much but still nice to have all the same. My personal favourite is probably Darkstalkers the third entry was/is amazing imo.

If this trend continues I think fighters will be ok for a while. Capcom seems to be playing it safe which is a shame but others still release frankly bizarre and wonderful fighters. Kinda pisses me off that someone like Sega whos shall we say not in a great financial situation can somehow make niche fighters like The upcoming one based on Shining Force and Dengeki and somehow KI can be resurrected as a brand but for some reason Darkstalkers is apparently not viable.

Im also hoping Namco release a new SC game soon and give it the dev time and funding it deserves they did a great job on 5 considering the rushed devolopment and lack of funding but there was no getting away from the fact the single player was very bad and the roster was also very very poor (all the new ones except ZWEI and Viola were awful as well as superfluous merely taking older more liked characters movesets). SC is my favourite 3D fighter and possibly favourite fighting game franchise so I hope they turn it around again and I can forget about Lost Swords. Luckily from the few accounts I have heard SCV did as well if not better than Tekken Tag 2 in numbers shifted so I expect it earned them more money as well seeing as how the budget was lower so it looks like a new game financially would be a good call.
I just hope they dont ever try anything like Lost Swords again because that game is awful on every level easily the worst fighter I have ever played if you can even call it that.
 

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None of your mentioned games interest me, well MKX does a small amount but I remember how bad MK9 was so I'm probably going to avoid it. And of course there's interest in SF5 as it isn't out, but I'm not an SF player.

I am however all over Tekken, didn't quite gel with TTT2 as much as 6 but still a massive fan, going to Lionz Den 2 next week. 180+ competitors including JDCR and Help Me, 2 of the best players in the world. Can't wait. After that it's 100% focus for Tekken 7 and TTT2 becomes little more than a filler.

I have a small interest in Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax, I heard it was a lot more simple than most anime fighters so that caught my attention. Anime fighters are a pain in every way.

With bias trying to be pressed to a minimum; I've researched and watched a lot of Tekken 7 content. And I can honestly say I think it looks to be potentially one of the greatest fighting games we'll ever see. Easily within the 3D sector anyway. The game catches a flavour of T3 and T5 (the two most popular) whilst also having new mechanics (tailspin seems a lot fairer all round). They're sharpening up the roster from TTT2's near 60 and not afraid of making big cuts by the looks of it (I doubt we'll have Armour King or Baek, and no Eddy or Christie is confirmed iirc). A smarter roster, stronger gameplay, it looks awesome... should be a great addition to the fighting game scene.
 

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I rarely get into the genre, but I'm not a multiplayer gamer at all, so for me a fighting game has to have a wealth of single player content to make it really worth it. I mean things like unlockackle characters, arenas, alt costumes, upgrades, story mode, etc.

I also kind of have a soft spot for unbalanced fighters, which are very few. I like the feeling that some characters are just matter-of-fact superior to others, not saying you can't win with those underpowered characters but you really gotta put a lot into it.

Case in point, one of my favorite fighting games was the "Dragonball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2" game on PS2 (I didn't play the third one so no opinion). I loved how you could play as weak characters like Chiaotzu and you'd never have a chance against the likes of say Majin Buu, but with the 5 player tag team and AI vs. AI I found it fun when not playing to just set up team matches of 5 on 5 and make a bet on which side would win, it was always entertaining.
 

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Shaun Kennedy said:
I rarely get into the genre, but I'm not a multiplayer gamer at all, so for me a fighting game has to have a wealth of single player content to make it really worth it. I mean things like unlockackle characters, arenas, alt costumes, upgrades, story mode, etc.

I also kind of have a soft spot for unbalanced fighters, which are very few. I like the feeling that some characters are just matter-of-fact superior to others, not saying you can't win with those underpowered characters but you really gotta put a lot into it.

Case in point, one of my favorite fighting games was the "Dragonball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2" game on PS2 (I didn't play the third one so no opinion). I loved how you could play as weak characters like Chiaotzu and you'd never have a chance against the likes of say Majin Buu, but with the 5 player tag team and AI vs. AI I found it fun when not playing to just set up team matches of 5 on 5 and make a bet on which side would win, it was always entertaining.
Sorry dude but Tenkaichi is not a fighting game series. It's one of those arena brawler things.

with a bit of touching up here and there though, I honestly believe DBZ Budokai (1) could be the greatest 3D fighting game. it's just awesome.
 

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Grahav said:
Simply, I want to talk about fighting Games. It is rare to see something about them in the escapist news, so I ask the opinion of you fellows about them...
-I love the look of all those games. Can't wait for SF V and MK X.

-I plan on getting Persona 4 Ultimax at some point I love shin megami tensei.

-I have Skullgirls. Its great. I'd say its the best western fighter out there. The only bad thing I can say about it is that the training mode isn't obvious and the boss not being playable is a little disappointing. Other than that 5/5.

-As for Killer Instinct it looks good and I wan't it bad. But I'd need an Xbone to get into it.

I used to Love the Blazblue series and was hyped for guilty gear Xrd. But I live in the UK and the Satanists who run Atlus decided to not bother releasing Xrd in Europe, and BB Chronophantasma only got a shitty digital release. I hope you go bust Atlus I really hope you do.

One of my favourite fighting game seires is the king of fighters games. They are awesome though sadly SNK has been rather quiet recently.
 

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Maximum Bert said:
Grahav said:
MK. Uhm. I do not agree that the character models are that ugly and that the hitting feels bad. Meh. Different opinions on taste. But it really is acomplex fighter, though.

Agreed word by word with the second paragraph. That's why I am buying it.
Yeah you dont have to agree people can like what they want no skin off my nose and while I havent played MKX yet (naturally) despite the issues I had with 9 I cant honestly call it a bad fighter same with Injustice which I had a lot more issues with than MK9. More fighters is always good I like most of them but there will always be some I am less keen on. Really this/last gen with have been spoiled with exemplary fighters I dont think overall we have had such quality games in the genre I mean just off the top of my head I have played and enjoyed (ok not played em all but most of these).

SF4 (and its iterations)
Blazblue Series
Soul Calibur 4 and 5 (Lost Swords can go and die in a fire somewhere)
MK9
Injustice
Under Night In Birth Exe Late (absolutely fantastic fighter that should get more attention)
Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax
Dead or Alive 5 (and its iterations)
Skullgirls
Virtua Fighter 5 (and eventually final showdown)
Persona 4 Arena (and Ultimax)
Guilt Gear Xrd
Arcana Hearts 3 (another one that wasnt my cup of tea but its definitely not a bad or poor game in anyway)
UMVC3 (and its quick update)
Tachinoko vs Capcom (never got rd to getting this unfortunately)
Tekken 6 and Tag 2 (never got these either got burned out on Tekken after 3. 2 is by far my favourite in the series but 7 should be a good point to jump back in for me)
King of Fighter XIII (found this one very impressive im not usually a KOF fan but I have always appreciated the quality of their games by and large and XIII was amazing although admittedly I have never tried 98 or 2002 unlimited yet)
Yatagarasu
Smash Bros WiiU (call it a fighter or not doesnt take away from the game)
Disidia (and more importantly its far superior sequel Duodecim)
Killer Instinct 3

thats it off the top of my head no doubt I have missed out a fair few and thats not counting the old classics that were released some well done others er not so much but still nice to have all the same. My personal favourite is probably Darkstalkers the third entry was/is amazing imo.

If this trend continues I think fighters will be ok for a while. Capcom seems to be playing it safe which is a shame but others still release frankly bizarre and wonderful fighters. Kinda pisses me off that someone like Sega whos shall we say not in a great financial situation can somehow make niche fighters like The upcoming one based on Shining Force and Dengeki and somehow KI can be resurrected as a brand but for some reason Darkstalkers is apparently not viable.

Im also hoping Namco release a new SC game soon and give it the dev time and funding it deserves they did a great job on 5 considering the rushed devolopment and lack of funding but there was no getting away from the fact the single player was very bad and the roster was also very very poor (all the new ones except ZWEI and Viola were awful as well as superfluous merely taking older more liked characters movesets). SC is my favourite 3D fighter and possibly favourite fighting game franchise so I hope they turn it around again and I can forget about Lost Swords. Luckily from the few accounts I have heard SCV did as well if not better than Tekken Tag 2 in numbers shifted so I expect it earned them more money as well seeing as how the budget was lower so it looks like a new game financially would be a good call.
I just hope they dont ever try anything like Lost Swords again because that game is awful on every level easily the worst fighter I have ever played if you can even call it that.
This generation is trully blessed. Yikes.

It is really a pity that Darkstalkers is forgotten in this way. I think it may be that adapting those vibrant aesthetics to the new gen would be expensive as shit. If 2d it would be at least the same amount of work as Skullgirls, if 3d adapting all the transformations could be nightmarish.

Danny Dowling said:
None of your mentioned games interest me, well MKX does a small amount but I remember how bad MK9 was so I'm probably going to avoid it. And of course there's interest in SF5 as it isn't out, but I'm not an SF player.

I am however all over Tekken, didn't quite gel with TTT2 as much as 6 but still a massive fan, going to Lionz Den 2 next week. 180+ competitors including JDCR and Help Me, 2 of the best players in the world. Can't wait. After that it's 100% focus for Tekken 7 and TTT2 becomes little more than a filler.

I have a small interest in Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax, I heard it was a lot more simple than most anime fighters so that caught my attention. Anime fighters are a pain in every way.

With bias trying to be pressed to a minimum; I've researched and watched a lot of Tekken 7 content. And I can honestly say I think it looks to be potentially one of the greatest fighting games we'll ever see. Easily within the 3D sector anyway. The game catches a flavour of T3 and T5 (the two most popular) whilst also having new mechanics (tailspin seems a lot fairer all round). They're sharpening up the roster from TTT2's near 60 and not afraid of making big cuts by the looks of it (I doubt we'll have Armour King or Baek, and no Eddy or Christie is confirmed iirc). A smarter roster, stronger gameplay, it looks awesome... should be a great addition to the fighting game scene.
Always liked Tekken's endings and Tekken 5 is a favorite of mine.

I just hope the plot of the Mishima feud finally has a proper ending in this game. 7 Games, goddamit.


Shaun Kennedy said:
I rarely get into the genre, but I'm not a multiplayer gamer at all, so for me a fighting game has to have a wealth of single player content to make it really worth it. I mean things like unlockackle characters, arenas, alt costumes, upgrades, story mode, etc.

I also kind of have a soft spot for unbalanced fighters, which are very few. I like the feeling that some characters are just matter-of-fact superior to others, not saying you can't win with those underpowered characters but you really gotta put a lot into it.

Case in point, one of my favorite fighting games was the "Dragonball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2" game on PS2 (I didn't play the third one so no opinion). I loved how you could play as weak characters like Chiaotzu and you'd never have a chance against the likes of say Majin Buu, but with the 5 player tag team and AI vs. AI I found it fun when not playing to just set up team matches of 5 on 5 and make a bet on which side would win, it was always entertaining.
I am the same type of person. Not playing "beyond nightmare" difficult that is online. Single player must be strong.

As for balance. Why not have the characters unbalanced for story mode and balanced for the common game? Guilty Gear XX did that, some of the opponentes in story were immune to certain types of damage, have thei status boosted, gold mode...

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Grahav said:
Simply, I want to talk about fighting Games. It is rare to see something about them in the escapist news, so I ask the opinion of you fellows about them...
-I love the look of all those games. Can't wait for SF V and MK X.

-I plan on getting Persona 4 Ultimax at some point I love shin megami tensei.

-I have Skullgirls. Its great. I'd say its the best western fighter out there. The only bad thing I can say about it is that the training mode isn't obvious and the boss not being playable is a little disappointing. Other than that 5/5.

-As for Killer Instinct it looks good and I wan't it bad. But I'd need an Xbone to get into it.

I used to Love the Blazblue series and was hyped for guilty gear Xrd. But I live in the UK and the Satanists who run Atlus decided to not bother releasing Xrd in Europe, and BB Chronophantasma only got a shitty digital release. I hope you go bust Atlus I really hope you do.

One of my favourite fighting game seires is the king of fighters games. They are awesome though sadly SNK has been rather quiet recently.
Goddammit Atlus.

While I like the KoF series I have two petty issues with SNK. First, they cut off K9999 and have put a shadow the hedgehog clone sometime ago. Second, they really screwed a manga about fighting games that gave companies free publicity. I haven't bought the last KoF because of that.
 

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Goddammit Atlus.

I mean it when I curse Atlus. However I do love their games (when I'm allowed to have them) so I hope their games survive them.

While I like the KoF series I have two petty issues with SNK. First, they cut off K9999 and have put a shadow the hedgehog clone sometime ago. Second, they really screwed a manga about fighting games that gave companies free publicity. I haven't bought the last KoF because of that.
Yeah Tetsuo was cool I'd like him back too. Although K'is pretty cool in my opinion, I like anime black people with white hair. To be honest they could replace the whole cast for all care, as long as they keep my man Terry Bogard. I think he's fucking awesome, he's my second favourite fighting games character just under Ken Masters.

My only real complaint is that Supers are interrupted way too easily in most SNK games, and they always stress out over Orochi when he's last actual appearance was fucking KOF 98. It's been 17 years guys I think your safe now.
I haven't heard about them screwing over a manga though, that sound pretty shitty.
 

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I'm a competitive fighting game player, been so for about 6 years now. I go to tourneys and commentate and whatnot. My games are Blazblue chronophantasma, Guilty Gear Xrd, Under Night In Birth: Exe late, Dengeki Bunkou Fighting Climax and Arcana heart 3 love max. If you wish to discuss these games or play with me in any of them let me know. PSN = Dreikoo.


(while I am aware of these other games listed up here due to my presence in venues of competition, I am not at all interested in playing them so I know little to them beyond basics that one observes from watching tournament players fighting in passing, I'm all for the 2D-anime-inspired stuff!)

verdant monkai said:
Grahav said:
Simply, I want to talk about fighting Games. It is rare to see something about them in the escapist news, so I ask the opinion of you fellows about them...
-I love the look of all those games. Can't wait for SF V and MK X.

-I plan on getting Persona 4 Ultimax at some point I love shin megami tensei.

-I have Skullgirls. Its great. I'd say its the best western fighter out there. The only bad thing I can say about it is that the training mode isn't obvious and the boss not being playable is a little disappointing. Other than that 5/5.

-As for Killer Instinct it looks good and I wan't it bad. But I'd need an Xbone to get into it.

I used to Love the Blazblue series and was hyped for guilty gear Xrd. But I live in the UK and the Satanists who run Atlus decided to not bother releasing Xrd in Europe, and BB Chronophantasma only got a shitty digital release. I hope you go bust Atlus I really hope you do.

One of my favourite fighting game seires is the king of fighters games. They are awesome though sadly SNK has been rather quiet recently.
Atlus doesn't make fighting games. They just licensed these persona chars they own to Arc System Works for the persona fighter, arcsys is the one who makes BB and GG. Also, they don't handle the publishing in Europe or America. You have a company called "Zen United" to blame for horrid EU releases.