Final Fantasy and why it is enjoyed.

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Vortigar

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Onmi said:
As for the Shinji Ikari effect, thats allways Rectified by the Super Robot Wars effect, also known as the Kamina effect.

Generally what happens when you introduce said whiny character to one (Or more)hotblooded Badass characters who proceed to turn said wimp into a MAN OF DESTINY (tm)
I actually never met someone who thought Shinji redeemed himself in the end. As I'm a firm believer of the idea that EoE depicts the events as they are happening during the final two episodes of the series and thus the dreaded choking scene is the last we know of him I'm not too positive on that boy... Ah well, Eva's ancient discussions will be going on for at least a decade yet.

I still claim the Adam and Eve theory though (which as far as I know was originally mine and take no small pride in seeing referenced around the net *snf). In short, God (or whoever the force behind the Angels was, an unresolved and oft forgotten point) manipulated Gendo through Seele all along to eliminate all life from the planet and reset the world back to a single couple of humans again. This was third impact's original intention and what Shinji realized was the only proper way out for our wasted world and its wretched people. So, actually, he didn't stop third impact at all, he embraced it.

Other than that
1. I agree on your reasoning then
2. Locke, that was his name!
3. prolly Sabin

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Oh new post.
The heroes of FF5 walked straight into the void, having always assumed it brought instant death to all who entered. The event is weirdly marginalized during the game, but you've been using 'exile to the void' as an instant death spell up until that point and now you're voluntarily walking into it. Uhm, whadda?
 

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GloatingSwine said:
Onmi said:
Riku (Means Earth)
Kairi (Something to do with Sea)
Riku means Sea, Kairi means Separation.
Actualy according to Tetsuya Nomura Riku Riku's name can be seen as "Land" and Kairi's name can be seen as "Sea" for the source look to wikipedia I'm too lazy to chase it up. This makes their names "sky" "sea" and "earth"-if you look up the new kingdom hearts spin off (about the different characters that original wielded the various keyblades the guys from KH now have) you will see their names also have a link in common.
 

The Wooster

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Vortigar said:
Onmi said:
As for the Shinji Ikari effect, thats allways Rectified by the Super Robot Wars effect, also known as the Kamina effect.

Generally what happens when you introduce said whiny character to one (Or more)hotblooded Badass characters who proceed to turn said wimp into a MAN OF DESTINY (tm)
I actually never met someone who thought Shinji redeemed himself in the end. As I'm a firm believer of the idea that EoE depicts the events as they are happening during the final two episodes of the series and thus the dreaded choking scene is the last we know of him I'm not too positive on that boy... Ah well, Eva's ancient discussions will be going on for at least a decade yet.

I still claim the Adam and Eve theory though (which as far as I know was originally mine and take no small pride in seeing referenced around the net *snf). In short, God (or whoever the force behind the Angels was, an unresolved and oft forgotten point) manipulated Gendo through Seele all along to eliminate all life from the planet and reset the world back to a single couple of humans again. This was third impact's original intention and what Shinji realized was the only proper way out for our wasted world and its wretched people.
Ick. The movies. Original ending was fine, it really didn't need a ENDBOSS!!!!
 

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Decoy Doctorpus said:
Vortigar said:
Onmi said:
As for the Shinji Ikari effect, thats allways Rectified by the Super Robot Wars effect, also known as the Kamina effect.

Generally what happens when you introduce said whiny character to one (Or more)hotblooded Badass characters who proceed to turn said wimp into a MAN OF DESTINY (tm)
I actually never met someone who thought Shinji redeemed himself in the end. As I'm a firm believer of the idea that EoE depicts the events as they are happening during the final two episodes of the series and thus the dreaded choking scene is the last we know of him I'm not too positive on that boy... Ah well, Eva's ancient discussions will be going on for at least a decade yet.

I still claim the Adam and Eve theory though (which as far as I know was originally mine and take no small pride in seeing referenced around the net *snf). In short, God (or whoever the force behind the Angels was, an unresolved and oft forgotten point) manipulated Gendo through Seele all along to eliminate all life from the planet and reset the world back to a single couple of humans again. This was third impact's original intention and what Shinji realized was the only proper way out for our wasted world and its wretched people.
Ick. The movies. Original ending was fine, it really didn't need a ENDBOSS!!!!
With all the people screaming about how horrible Fable 2's ending was, I'm not entirely sure ;/
 

Vortigar

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Decoy Doctorpus said:
Ick. The movies. Original ending was fine, it really didn't need a ENDBOSS!!!!
LOL

The Seele clone-things were a bit whack yeah, but it's a massive loose end in the series. I tend to think both are wonky, thus overlaid my own little theory on them.
 

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7 was fun because of it's plot, honestly, not much more.
I love the Final Fantasies and all, but I believe 8 & 9 were leaps and bounds ahead of 7 in long lasting fun.
Maybe the combat and materia were deserving of some of the hype, but the materia wasn't really too great of an idea anyways.
All in all, 7 doesn't really deserve much.
It's really great and all for a few hours, but nowhere near fanboy/girl material.
 

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Amnestic said:
With all the people screaming about how horrible Fable 2's ending was, I'm not entirely sure ;/
Maybe it's me, but I think it was freaking hilarious. I'm going with "Not every game needs an endboss", especially when it doesn't make any sense.
 

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TGLT said:
Amnestic said:
With all the people screaming about how horrible Fable 2's ending was, I'm not entirely sure ;/
Maybe it's me, but I think it was freaking hilarious. I'm going with "Not every game needs an endboss", especially when it doesn't make any sense.
Yea..but kefka was the greatest villain EVER.
 

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Onmi said:
That's cause he was characterized well.

I gotta say one of the lovable things about Kefka is that he never tried to justify destroying the world due to mommy issues or cause he was going to die or because he has a warped view of death.

Kefka ruled the world as a god because he is a GIGANTIC PRICK. All game Kefka proves to us that he is A GIANT DOUCHEBAG when he poisons Doma, sets fire to Castle Figaro. And never once does he try to have a tragic backstory.

He was just, pure fucking evil. He was a real Endboss, there is no hope for redemption, no turning point in his life. The man was truly a villain, a Kill em All villain that was likable (Not like that shit Gundam SEED Pulled, but that entire Alternate Universe is poorly written shit)

Try to think of any other villain who was just balls out EVIL and characterized so well. Ex-death, X-Death Exodus however we want to say it, was evil, but didn't have Kefka's involvement.

Gobelz was mind controlled or something, and replaced with a Giant Space Flea from out of Nowhere.

Same as all other FF's.

Kefka was just... awesome. He was one of- if not THE Greatest villain ever.
Amen. I loved Sephiroth but kefka was a fine example of all the negative aspects of humanity. The embodiment of greed, hate, sadism, and apathy, which made him such a disgusting person that just made you despise every atom of his being. The seconds his music first plays and when you first see him ever you just know "I am going to hate him...i just know it". Greatest villian ever may be saying too much but no one can doubt he was one of the greatest ever. I can't wait to play him in Dissidia *laughs maniacally*
 

hippieshopper

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I wish people would just stop talking bad about games, regardless of what they are. Talking good about them is fine, but don't try to piss anyone off because you will just look like an idiot, or a douche...or both.
"It's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought of as a fool then to open it and remove all doubt."

If you like Final Fantasy, that's good
If you don't, fine but don't whine because the people that do like it don't wanna hear it.

I guess what I am saying is that I wish people would stop with the " sucks, lol"...
It's your opinion, it's not a fact even if there are more people that support that claim.
 

Darth Lexx

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Don't play it don't really know what it is about, and don't really care. Sorry if offended anyone.
 

-Seraph-

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Tactics:war of the lion, and crisis core are only spin off I have enjoyed. I hope Dissidia turns out great, after seeing cloud vs Sephiroth, I nearly had a fangasm, it's just looking so promising.