Final Fantasy XIII Compromised to Please 360 Owners

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AvsJoe

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This makes me glad that I support the 360 in this generation of consoles. The Stations get the shaft while the Micros get the win. The Tendos are unaffected.
 

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oliveira8 said:
Whats the difference betewen FF13 Versus and FF13?
One's a regular Final Fantasy game, the other's gameplay is like Kingdom Hearts (which means it's much better).

I would and am looking more forward to Versus XIII, even IF they wouldn't have compromised it. I much prefer real-time action to turn-based combat (like Kingdom Hearts).
 

ShadowKatt

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Awexsome said:
Shame that this will cause more hate between the two consoles, if there wasn't enough already.
I don't think this will make me hate the xbox any more than I already do, because this isn't microsofts fault. Microsoft made a console with what they had. Sony developed the blu-ray player, so they had it available, microsoft didn't. Microsoft and their Xbox 360 deserve no more aire than they did before.

HOWEVER, Sony seems hellbent on continuing this never ending stream of disappointments. Final Fantasy has never been a multiplatform game, and it sure as hell wasn't a bunch of xbox fanboys clamouring to get a port, since most of them seem to bash it as much as sony fanboys diss on Halo. This is all just a marketing ploy by Sony to try to rake in more cash, and while it might work in the short term, overall it's going to result in a shotty game(A blu-ray disk holds, like, 60 gigs, and a dual layer dvd holds about 9. Tell me that nothing is going to change except the japanese voices) and a lot of disgruntled and disenfranchised fans.

Personally, this is just more reason to boycott Sony as a whole. I just bought Rock Band and made sure to get it from Gamestop used so Sony didn't get a dime of my money, and got a third party guitar controller. I'll get FF XIII the same way, but my expectations of it are going to be far, far lower now that I know they crucified the game just to sell a few more copys.

Edit: Rereading that I think I might have mentioned Sony instead of Square, but I'm not entirely sure they're different entities, so I think it works either way.
 

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I don't see why everyone's so upset...
It will be a great game, no matter what.

I mean, FF7 is considered one of the best games of all time, and yet it was known to be rushed- and therefore not all it could have been.

We will love what we receive.
So I have foretold, and so it shall be.
 

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Equeefix is like an old schoolmate you remember very fondly but when you meet her at the 10 year reunion you mistake her for a dirty whore. I remember when the name "Squaresoft" on a box was a stamp of solid gold because they utilized technology to constantly push the boundaries and leave gamers astonished. Now it's all about grasping as much as they can and staying pedestrian for more Xbox money. I can't tell who is more of a prick here. Microsoft for shelling money to gimp a storied franchise in a shameless attempt to screw the competition? That would be like shitting on an art price so the other guy wont buy it. Or Square for allowing their Excalibur to devolve into a childrens toy?
 

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Erana said:
I mean, FF7 is considered one of the best games of all time, and it was well-known to be rushed- therefore not all it could have been.
Indeed. A lot of games are done on a terrifically cramped schedule. Only major studios like Blizzard can take their sweet time making stuff.

Whistler777 said:
Aardvark said:
If anything, you should blame Sony for making their system so damn boring that people would rather deal with a system that explodes on a regular basis.
Why hello fanboy, how you doing? Been playing any Halo lately? Golly, it's great, being narrow-minded and all, isn't it!
You seem to have missed that he made a crack at the 360 while he said that.

Anyway, I have to question that this source is a site called Quickjump Network, a site I have never heard of. Even if it is legit though, who cares? The GAME isn't being compromised: the gameplay is still intact, the only thing being affected are extra goodies. The English voices ain't that bad most of the time anyway.

All this is going to do is provoke the 360 and PS3 owners on the site into open conflict.
 

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thiosk said:
ff13 stopped looking appealing about the time FFX came out.
Lol.... that's a good way to incurr some escapist wrath.
From what I've observed, X is thought to be one of the best.
 

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Whistler777 said:
Yesterday, we covered an interview with Final Fantasy XIII (Xbox 360, PlayStation 3) producer, Yoshinori Kitase, which had him reassuring fans that FFXIII going multiplatform did not compromise design at all. Today, we have here Kitase talking to GameTrailers, and admitting that the PS3 version has been indeed compromised to "keep both versions of the game identical."

Specifically, the PS3 version will not have the Japanese voices with English subtitles because, well, it can't fit on the Xbox 360 and since they want to be "fair" to both platforms, then they won't put it on the PS3 as well - regardless if it can afford to have the Japanese audio track or not. Which it totally can.


Not only that, but the pacing of the PS3 version will also be affected because of the Xbox 360 version. Analyzed PS3 Center:

When Final Fantasy moved to PlayStation 2, it only ever appeared on 1 DVD. This meant that unlike previous iterations on the original PlayStation, every area within the game could technically be open at any time. In previous games, some areas appeared on some discs, and were closed off in others. The same can even be said for games such as Lost Odyssey on the Xbox 360, due to the space constraints of the DVD, the majority of side-quests appeared on the final disc. Final Fantasy XIII will be affected in the same way.


This is not a huge problem if an RPG is 360 exclusive or developed for Xbox 360 first, but if it is meant to be developed on the PS3 first and take advantage of ALL it's features, then it is a problem.


If the game was on a single Blu-Ray disc, it would allow the player to explore many areas, and many side-quests at any time throughout the game. However, due to the DVD limitations of the Xbox 360, the game will be cut up, and many areas you visit at the beginning of the game will most likely not be available towards the end of the game. This may be one of the main reasons that many PS3 fans are looking forward to Final Fantasy Vs XIII more than Final Fantasy XIII, because Versus represents an upgrade in scale whereas Final Fantasy XIII is actually a downgrade from earlier Final Fantasy games in that sense.
[a href="http://www.qj.net/Contrary-to-what-Square-Enix-would-have-us-believe-FFXIII-PS3-IS-compromised/pg/49/aid/134299#comments"]Source[/a]

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After having just seen this on Overclock.net, I thought I'd bring the news to you. As a PS3 owner, I'm more than a little vexed at the fact that game developers seem hellbent on not taking advantage of the Blu-Ray disc format.
And this is why I'm leaving FF behind. KTHXBYE!
 

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Once again Squenix surprises no-one and alienates it's loyal fanbase even further. Way to go guys!
I don't know what's worse... This, or Subarashiki Kono Sekai (The World Ends With You).
 

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Well some people would like to play this game with the Japanese voices for one reason or another. To hear that the extra vocal track is not being included because it cannot fit on the 360 DVD just sours things a bit. It makes you start to wonder what else was cut or scaled back in the game because it could not fit and they wanted to be "fair" to the 360. Ignoring the pointless speculation about pacing in the source posting one has to admit that cutting out the vocal track for this game when it could have fit on the Blu-Ray to equalize things for the 360 is a smoking gun with respect to the general lament that the 360 is holding various games back because of lack of space.

Just look at Tales of Vesperia the new character in the PS3 version is actually refered to in the 360 game code, yet she does not appear in the game. Look at the latest Star Ocean you have to physically switch discs in order to return to previously visited areas because of how the game had to be divided up.

As for not being mad at MS. Who were the morons who decided to stick with DVD format and not include a hard drive in every unit? Had they done that we would not be having these kinds of discussions because the hard drive could easily make up for the lack of space on the DVD. Every consumer of these products should be mad at MS for a short-sighted design that is costing us features that are common place in movies and tv shows. I would not be surprised if MS. would have forced Square to charge for the extra audio track.

I won't be mad at Square for being silly and bothering to even make this game for the 360 as part of their misguided attempt to win over a western audience that still is not going to start gobbling up JRPGs from them, even if this one proves to not be shit; unlike their previous entries on the console. I will simply point and laugh at their executives while they sit back and wonder why probably more than half their fanbase hates them now.
 

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scotth266 said:
Erana said:
I mean, FF7 is considered one of the best games of all time, and it was well-known to be rushed- therefore not all it could have been.
Indeed. A lot of games are done on a terrifically cramped schedule. Only major studios like Blizzard can take their sweet time making stuff.
That would actually be true if Square-Enix was a small studio...They are not. They one of the biggest game developers from Japan and in the World.
 

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Bigsmith said:
What i want to no is, Why can't FF games come out on pc and not be MMOs.
It's possible that this type of RPG does not have a very big market in their home territory on PC, whereas MMOs do.
 

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Eh, the last few FF games (XII, XI, X) have pretty much sucked in their story and/or gameplay (I'm looking at you XI, being all slow as hell to play). XIII and Versus XIII looked interesting, and I was anxious to know what the story was about....just to see if Square lost it like they did with XII.

Ah well, since I may end up owning both systems (I currently have only the 360), I will give it a shot. But really, the only reason to play a RPG is the story, NOT the graphics or combat system. It's ALWAYS been about story, everything else is icing. And since THAT doesn't seem to be getting cut to keep it "Fair" to the 360 owners, then no one should complain.
 

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It's called a Videogame for a reason. If graphics are not important for an inherently visual medium why not just make a damned pure text RPG? It's like someone creating a Graphic Novel with an awesome story and shit drawings. If the drawing is gonna be shitty wouldn't it be better to drop the graphics and stick to the novel? In a game of this kind where the gameplay is largely stat/menu driven the graphics are even more important for telling the story because the presentation is what brings the player in and keeps the player engaged.
 

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Why is it last time i checked that wasn't true, as FFXIII was pretty much being tailor made for the PS3 and the fact that they were making the 360 version after the PS3 version was completed

I doubt this source for some reason

(i don't want to pick a fight so please don't bother)
 

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Daedalus1942 said:
thiosk said:
ff13 stopped looking appealing about the time FFX came out.
Lol.... that's a good way to incurr some escapist wrath.
From what I've observed, X is thought to be one of the best.


ayi yi yi

voice acting for the lol?