Firk you Activision, firk you. Sincerely - Gamers

[ZeZZZZevy]

Normally I wouldn't care about a rant like this, unfortunately (with that title) you claim to speak for all of us, to which I say: "Please stop."

You are allowed to dislike a company/game, please don't claim to know what I do or do not like. You can have an opinion, but don't claim that your opinion is shared by everyone else.

 

[bentley2210]

I find it hilarious that you call it "their game" when referring to Activision. They published it, not developed it.

Do people still seriously not know the difference between a publisher and developer?

Oh, btw, if you don't like the next game in the series, don't buy it. Stick to the one you do like and play it.

As for the "hacker" thing... Yeah, that's why I still play Valve games, they tend to care enough to implement one of the better "anti-cheat" methods.

Also, you might want to note: Publishers are profit finding whores. You should know that by now, hell, EA took heat for practically the same things a few years back and are starting to get it again with pre order bonus' and the forcing of Origin onto a machine that doesn't want it.

The thign is the dev: IW no longer exists. It's activision's responsibility to maintain their IPs anyways.

I know that it's happened before but that doesn't mean you can't complain about it. I know forum posts aren't going to get me anywhere but people need to hear my argument. People need to think for a moment and realize that as the customer you have the right to demand better service.

People dont need to hear this. You want them to hear it.

It's the same thing time after time anyway. Every forum I visit, it's the same thing with any game. Hell, this is why I mostly play indie games now. They're fun, cheap, usually DLC is free and because the devs want to be noticed they patch the hell out of the game to fix almost every bug.

 

[crepesack]

Is this guy for real? I feel like I just read the script to an over-dramatic play. Not to mention he's essentially making the same points that members of this site have agreed upon since its birth. He's not going to get anywhere with this because he's essentially preaching to the choir.

Then do something about it. I don't understand why people keep saying "We all know this now shut up and take the ass gaping" or say "You shouldn't complain they're some big faceless corporation." It's this mindset that's slowing us down! It's this mindset that's letting them take advantage of us.


And at the above person. No I don't mean that I'm speaking for all gamers but the consensus seems to be clear: Publishers are assholes that disrespect gamers and games in exchange for money. My rant is just focusing on Activision but it's obvious that most publishers are just disassembling this genre of entertainment for some quick bucks.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Actiwho? I think you mean Ubisoft, I mean they killed Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, and Splinter Cell, and now they are letting Gearbox destroy Brothers in Arms. I mean they actually put someone who is on the record as saying he hated the Splinter Cell games in charge of Conviction. I'm not even going to start on their DRM. Activision have a lot of catching up to do if they are going to catch up with Ubisoft.

Oh and Ubisoft don't hate their customers they just don't care a tinker's cuss about them and want someone else's customers more.

Just pointing it out that Gearbox are the original Brothers In Arms Developers. I don't like it either, but Hell's Highway didn't sell as well as Ubisoft hoped, so Gearbox is making the Furious Four spinoff.

 

[Dogstile]

So... Capitalist Pig publisher is bad for wanting money out of their IP they put effort into and no series should ever exceed, say, 3 installments? I think there is a certain OP who needs to experience the uncomfortable act he wishes upon said Capitalist Pigs.

No not at all. I suggest that they stop just discarding their old accomplishments in exchange for quick profits. I don't care if CoD goes on to Call of Dutt 67: Master Chief vs. Captain Price. I just want them to at least keep their games going on beyond 6 years. Look at CS! They have a thriving community that's been going and going and going and hasn't gone to crap. There's no reason this couldn't be done. I mean there are so few games of CoD4 that actually still go on it'd just be a matter of getting on an admin account and doing a few bans every week. No more than 1-2 hours tops. AND YET nothing happens.

There's barely any games going on cod4?

Have you been on recently? Its thriving alright.

No, by any standards there are very few games outside of "promod" servers and on xbox there's maybe only 3-4 games the auto connect sends you to at any given time.

*goes on*

Nope, i'm pretty sure there's about 20 games it's auto connecting me to.

And those are the ones with decent ping to me, i'm fairly certain they'll be more all over the world.

 

[Pyrokinesis]

..... OK whut? Seriously you act as those activision was killing babies in a ritualistic manner or something. You really beleive that activision is the only one who has left old games to go their way when new titles come out? The same for just about every single console available game out there that has a squeal. (I say console based because PC games have extended life spans over Consoles. Look at how many people still play starcraft 1.)

Hell why blame activision why not blame dice? Battlefield 2 was a great game of its time but it was left to rot when BF2142 came out. Then that was left to rot when Bad company came out, Then that was left to rot when Bad Company 2 came out, and thats going to be left to rot when BF 3 Comes out.

I seriously dont get why your rage is pointed at activision. They sponsor good games alot of the time. Just because any of the COD series served its time honorably and was replaced dosent make them evil hate spewing, money parasites. They dont get money because people dont pay for things you know...

Your rage is seriously misguided if not sadly delusional. I have more than enough reason to beleive that during any of the CODS time to shine they received the utmost of money/time/effort/patches/fixes/updates/tweaks/fansupport that it needed to be more successful than many game series out there that just release a turd and let it sink or swim. (duke nukem). Thats more than enough proof to say that activision cares more about there titles than many other developer teams out there.

THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM ALL! Don't you guys get it?!
IT's NOT JUST ACTIVISION. WE AS GAMERS DESERVE MORE SERVICE. People who buy 60 dollars worth of food at a fancy restaurant GET MORE SERVICE AND RESPECT THAN WE DO. ALL DEVELOPERS NEED TO REALIZE ITS CUSTOMERS AREN'T IDIOTS. It's people like you who stifle complaints who tell them to shut up that's slowing down the creation of a better world for both gamers AND developers.

I seriously posted that like 5 seconds ago...

Anyway,
Can you really not see how much your raging over this? Do you really believe that in your rage that makes you correct? Your acting as though your money spent on a title that can getting anywhere from 8-50 hours out of it depending on your playstyle isnt enough money to be paid? Considering how many people work on those projects, and how much money goes into them to give us the experience we enjoy, that honestly seems a trivial amount for a title with replay values like activation's.

More seriously, Just because I offer a different perspective to your believes does not make me some kind of evil corporate stifle to hold the voice of the people down. If you want to be heard then you should try keep more of a composure to your self and be reasonable with your arguments. Rage filled slander and hate is no way to get an opinion voiced. It will only label you as an extremist and in many cases get your arguments immediately dismissed due to your irrational behavior.

I hear your argument. But its far to hate filled and almost prejudice to be look at in a reasonable manner.


Captcha: Hentini (hentai on the rocks)

 

[Furioso]

What if food companies threw out their old flavors for new ones?? What if manufacturers of electronic equipment outright stopped producing parts for their older models?

But....they do, every last one of them does, just take a look at Wendys new fries, and every single electronics distributor stops selling their old crap, sure you can find parts for a wallkman online, but they haven't been factory made in years. Also, just because a company makes a new game it doesn't mean they are disrespectful, it just means they made a new product that they hope people will like, sure they want cash but to say they don't care would just be blind cynicism

 

[SteveeVader]

Dude COD fans are different to gamers they're a breed of their own, just deal with it bioware and ubisoft and EA and MS and Nintendo and Sony are still making good games so just deal with it as it is

COD will fall like guitar hero did people will get bored and lose interest in years to come

 

[crepesack]

So... Capitalist Pig publisher is bad for wanting money out of their IP they put effort into and no series should ever exceed, say, 3 installments? I think there is a certain OP who needs to experience the uncomfortable act he wishes upon said Capitalist Pigs.

No not at all. I suggest that they stop just discarding their old accomplishments in exchange for quick profits. I don't care if CoD goes on to Call of Dutt 67: Master Chief vs. Captain Price. I just want them to at least keep their games going on beyond 6 years. Look at CS! They have a thriving community that's been going and going and going and hasn't gone to crap. There's no reason this couldn't be done. I mean there are so few games of CoD4 that actually still go on it'd just be a matter of getting on an admin account and doing a few bans every week. No more than 1-2 hours tops. AND YET nothing happens.

There's barely any games going on cod4?

Have you been on recently? Its thriving alright.

No, by any standards there are very few games outside of "promod" servers and on xbox there's maybe only 3-4 games the auto connect sends you to at any given time.

*goes on*

Nope, i'm pretty sure there's about 20 games it's auto connecting me to.

And those are the ones with decent ping to me, i'm fairly certain they'll be more all over the world.

I think you're definitely exaggerating because it takes longer than that time span to go out and in of 20 different games. Also I'm sitting at my xbox right now. If I have to I can take a video showing how there's only ever 3-4 games to autoconnect to.

 

[zalphos]

I feel an incredible amount of hate coming from this board.

While I agree with OP, I can see where a lot of you people are coming from.
Yes CoD is successful and saying it makes a lot of money (probably than it should but that's my opinion) is like saying the ocean is a little wet. And yes...Activision has every right to keep pumping them out because people will buy it no matter what.

The problem I have with it is that they're going through all the trouble making the same game over and over instead of just releasing DLC, or some expansions to the game.

MW2 has sold more copies than there are people with electricity, and a large percentage of those people that have it, would put down 15-20$ for a map pack even if it's 3 maps the day they would come out. So what they could do instead of spending all their money making MW3-7 they could increase the longevity of MW2 by say adding new guns or a perk pack or hell a new gameplay mode (look at DOTA).

I think that is what OP is trying to get at. I can see where he's coming from that it can seem like they don't care by making fans pat $60 for seemingly the game they just bought 2 years ago...twice...

Obviously there does need to come a time where they move on to bigger and better things, but look at halo. Bungie had halo2 servers running until almost halo reach came out...and that was 2 games later. Now they didn't update it, but they did keep things running, I can't say for the MW games because I don't play them...


Unfortunately...big companies do like money, who can blame them, so they keep making new games which is better than nothing I suppose...

 

[DaHero]

So....

You gunna be mad when Modern Warfare 3 ends up selling 50 million copies on launch day and becomes the most successful game in history...again?

Time to lose faith in humanity.

What took you so long?

 

[bentley2210]

Is this guy for real? I feel like I just read the script to an over-dramatic play. Not to mention he's essentially making the same points that members of this site have agreed upon since its birth. He's not going to get anywhere with this because he's essentially preaching to the choir.

Then do something about it. I don't understand why people keep saying "We all know this now shut up and take the ass gaping" or say "You shouldn't complain they're some big faceless corporation." It's this mindset that's slowing us down! It's this mindset that's letting them take advantage of us.


And at the above person. No I don't mean that I'm speaking for all gamers but the consensus seems to be clear: Publishers are assholes that disrespect gamers and games in exchange for money. My rant is just focusing on Activision but it's obvious that most publishers are just disassembling this genre of entertainment for some quick bucks.

People are doing something about it. They boycott games, but it never works. Why? Because people cave in when they see their friends playing it and buy it. Or they see it on sale somewhere and buy it. Or, to the average casual gamer who sits at home on their console (not reading forums like this) goes out and buys it. And trust me, there are a hell of a lot of them. This is who they are catering to. Fanboys/ragers/haters on the Internet tend to just get ignored because the unsuspecting casual gamer who enjoys the occasional game of CoD will get the next title with the same name on it.

 

[PureIrony]

First off...Firk?

Secondly, you're being a little melodramatic. This is so damn hammy it was almost painful to read.

And lastly, you're making enormous inferences on the character of a large body of people, which is almost never ok unless they are all joined together for some common belief or grounding. Progression is not an attempt to forget the old. It is an attempt to improve on that which exists, and should never be forfeited. Yes, maybe the newer games aren't as good, but no ones trying to make things worse, and the fact that they sell means that there is a demand to supply.

Maybe you know something I don't. Maybe you're alluding to some sort of "atrocity" that I'm not aware of. But you're style over substance prose obsufucates any of that, and the rest of your arguments amounts to nothing more than what everyone else has outed it for: a rant.

BTW, I don't own a single CoD game.

 

[Dogstile]

So... Capitalist Pig publisher is bad for wanting money out of their IP they put effort into and no series should ever exceed, say, 3 installments? I think there is a certain OP who needs to experience the uncomfortable act he wishes upon said Capitalist Pigs.

No not at all. I suggest that they stop just discarding their old accomplishments in exchange for quick profits. I don't care if CoD goes on to Call of Dutt 67: Master Chief vs. Captain Price. I just want them to at least keep their games going on beyond 6 years. Look at CS! They have a thriving community that's been going and going and going and hasn't gone to crap. There's no reason this couldn't be done. I mean there are so few games of CoD4 that actually still go on it'd just be a matter of getting on an admin account and doing a few bans every week. No more than 1-2 hours tops. AND YET nothing happens.

There's barely any games going on cod4?

Have you been on recently? Its thriving alright.

No, by any standards there are very few games outside of "promod" servers and on xbox there's maybe only 3-4 games the auto connect sends you to at any given time.

*goes on*

Nope, i'm pretty sure there's about 20 games it's auto connecting me to.

And those are the ones with decent ping to me, i'm fairly certain they'll be more all over the world.

I think you're definitely exaggerating because it takes longer than that time span to go out and in of 20 different games. Also I'm sitting at my xbox right now. If I have to I can take a video showing how there's only ever 3-4 games to autoconnect to.

No, it says it's found this many games while its trying to join. That's how I kn-

You know what, i'm not even going to try anymore, i'm going to bed. Hate Activision for "killing" cod if you have to, i'm to tired to argue.

 

[crepesack]

I understand everyone's views but all I see is a consistent answer:

"stop complaining"

If you, a gaming forum, cannot at least try to keep a conversation going that doesn't end with "shut up and take it" then I guess I'll just stop. Mods lock this thread before I make myself seem stupider with my building rage.


I'm going to go write some emails...

 

[Soviet Heavy]

So... Capitalist Pig publisher is bad for wanting money out of their IP they put effort into and no series should ever exceed, say, 3 installments? I think there is a certain OP who needs to experience the uncomfortable act he wishes upon said Capitalist Pigs.

No not at all. I suggest that they stop just discarding their old accomplishments in exchange for quick profits. I don't care if CoD goes on to Call of Dutt 67: Master Chief vs. Captain Price. I just want them to at least keep their games going on beyond 6 years. Look at CS! They have a thriving community that's been going and going and going and hasn't gone to crap. There's no reason this couldn't be done. I mean there are so few games of CoD4 that actually still go on it'd just be a matter of getting on an admin account and doing a few bans every week. No more than 1-2 hours tops. AND YET nothing happens.

There's barely any games going on cod4?

Have you been on recently? Its thriving alright.

No, by any standards there are very few games outside of "promod" servers and on xbox there's maybe only 3-4 games the auto connect sends you to at any given time.

*goes on*

Nope, i'm pretty sure there's about 20 games it's auto connecting me to.

And those are the ones with decent ping to me, i'm fairly certain they'll be more all over the world.

I think you're definitely exaggerating because it takes longer than that time span to go out and in of 20 different games. Also I'm sitting at my xbox right now. If I have to I can take a video showing how there's only ever 3-4 games to autoconnect to.

Well there's your problem right there. Nobody ever thinks that consoles can't be hacked right? Because all that evil piracy is on the PC where hackers ruin everyone's fun!
/sarcasm.

Thank god for Valve Anti Cheat, keeping all those COD hackers off of the servers and onto the XBOX.

 

[crepesack]

First off...Firk?

Secondly, you're being a little melodramatic. This is so damn hammy it was almost painful to read.

And lastly, you're making enormous inferences on the character of a large body of people, which is almost never ok unless they are all joined together for some common belief or grounding. Progression is not an attempt to forget the old. It is an attempt to improve on that which exists, and should never be forfeited. Yes, maybe the newer games aren't as good, but no ones trying to make things worse, and the fact that they sell means that there is a demand to supply.

Maybe you know something I don't. Maybe you're alluding to some sort of "atrocity" that I'm not aware of. But you're style over substance prose obsufucates any of that, and the rest of your arguments amounts to nothing more than what everyone else has outed it for: a rant.

BTW, I don't own a single CoD game.

Oh btw. Yes I made it melodramatic on purpose. I think my humor kind of went off course on the opening post. But that's my own failings in writing. I didn't really make it melodramatic enough but I think it's mostly because it's hard to translate dramatic hyper-inflection into text.

 

[rabidmidget]

I'm divided on the "Activision is the devil" issue.

On one hand, their tactics are cheap, show little respect to their customers/employees and do more damage than good to video games as a medium.

But on the other hand, a company's end goal is to make profits, something these methods have shown to do, so the question is should we blame Activision for taking this path or the customers for making such a path feasible in first place?

 

[PureIrony]

Snip

Oh btw. Yes I made it melodramatic on purpose. I think my humor kind of went off course on the opening post. But that's my own failings in writing. I didn't really make it melodramatic enough but I think it's mostly because it's hard to translate dramatic hyper-inflection into text.

Fine, the melodrama can be forgiven, despite the lack of explanation on firk.

You still haven't fully explained why this is worse than every other cash-in game that's made these days(i.e. at least two-thirds of all of them). Yeah, they took it from Infinity Ward, but the franchise never really belonged to them, and you still haven't explained how the entirety of Activision can be blamed for this-and, by extension, those working on the new installments-when this is a decision most likely made by a few of the higher-up and how this is a desecration when there is still clearly a demand for these games, and how the new CoDs can be considered lesser when they continue to set the standard for online multiplayer, TF2 not withstanding.

As for the story: welcome to sequels. Get ready for some shit.