"For a Wii Game" and why I hate that statement

[Kasawd]

I don't know if anyone realizes this but, hey, guess what the Wii REALLY is...

Spoiler

YES! that's right! With gimmicky controls, an optical drive, and a little more RAM. And I say this with the utmost truth in that I am, in fact, a Wii owner. Can you guess what Wii games I regularly play and enjoy on it?

YES! NONE OF THEM! Except for Super Smash Bros. Brawl when my friends are in town, I never play any of the Wii games I own! They all have the same story attached to them: "It seemed like a good idea at the time." Then I get them home, give it a shot, get tired of flailing my arms around, and go back to doing something else.

I own Zelda: Twilight Princess for Wii as I am a big big Zelda fan but I DO NOT play it. Because I... DO NOT... want to WAGGLE MY FUCKING CONTROLLER AROUND IN A ZELDA GAME!

So I looked for and bought a Gamecube copy of it and I couldn't be happier. At I wouldn't have even had to do that if it only had GC/Classic Controller support built-in.

They say the next Zelda game will be based on the MotionPlus attachment. Bugger me, now I actually have to give a shit or not play it! It probably won't amount to near as much as the feeling one gets for conquering Zelda II on the NES, the only Zelda game ever made with a difficulty so hard that the box must have a label reading "You must be this Asian to play this game."

Speaking of Motion Plus, it is nice but it's a serious battery hog. I use a rechargeable battery pack but it's still inconvenient... and even then, I only have Wii Sports Resort to use it with since it came with the bloody thing! That was fun for a while but at some point, it all becomes a moot point when you realize that there's no real feedback for all your flailing around. There's no reaction to the action that physically affects you, it's just arbitrary swatting-at-flies motions.

Maybe Nintendo can use your ill-gotten soccer mom money they made on the Wii and invest some actual development in the system hardware of their next tiny wonder box.

The picture of the gamecube put a smile on my face. It's true, though, the battery hog is back. I had thought my days of drawers full of dead batteries were over when I bought the SP.

I don't disagree with what you're saying. I just want to know how you figure the money was ill-gotten?

 

[Necromancer1991]

How can you say Red Steel would be the same? Judging by your inability to come up with a better comment than "derp" I'll assume your intelligence is fairly low. Were you to possess a bit more comprehension you would see the many areas in which that game was cut down to fit the Wii. I'm sure the developers could have greatly improved the game with processing power beyond that of a pocket calculator and hardware that actually WORKS. For example, maybe they could have done a little less copypasta enviroments and enemies, and maybe not using the shortcut of cell shaded art.

Ye their would be more enemy variations & less loading screens but that's all that would really be changed, the AI wouldn't be improved and the game play would stay the same (as far as cell-shaded art is concerned what of Crackdown & Borderlands?). Also people seem to ignore that lower graphics = higher art styles as opposed to EVERY BOMBED OUT MOTHERF*CKING CITY IN EVERY RECENT FPS!

 

[LeonLethality]

I don't buy the argument "The Wii is technologically inferior to the PS3 and 360" that doesn't warrant "good for a Wii game" the PS2 is technologically inferior to the PS3 and 360 but its good games are not "good for a PS2 game"

I get the feeling good for a Wii game is because people don't want to admit it is just good because they feel they will be saying the Wii is a good console.

 

[Squidgeididdly]

I agree with the original poster, it's silly when people say it's good for a Wii game. I can't see how the Wii is worse that the Xbox or the PS3, it's sold almost twice as many units (according to Wikipedia http://bit.ly/aTrKnQ) and the games are so much more fun than, say, Halo or COD. They are more focused on storyline and gameplay than the fanciest way to go around killing people, which seems to me to be all the top Xbox/PS3 games are cracked up to be.
On the subject of gimmick. The motion sensor capabilities are often criticised for being gimmicky and short-lived. Whereas I can point out a gimmick in almost every Xbox/PS3 game i've heard of. And since both microsoft and sony are either copying or copying but just a different way of doing it *cough* Natal *cough* then I think that revolutionary is a better word than gimmick.

 

[Necromancer1991]

Want to know why there is so much crappy shovel ware for the Wii, because it has a thing called Mainstream Appeal, which for you idiots not smart enough to understand it means that almost everyone can enjoy it, but it also means anyone can exploit it. As far as calling it "Gimmicky" it's lasted long enough to prove otherwise, unlike a certain PSP "upgrade" or a doomed boy of virtual persuasion

 

[Kimarous]

Take a look at the difference between Dead Rising on the 360, and Dead Rising on the Wii. Big difference there, despite the Wii version coming out later.

I feel that if Galaxy and Galaxy 2 were on more powerful consoles, you could have even bigger worlds, and more to do in them. They would be even better than they already are.

i disagree
just because capcom made a shit port, that doesnt represent the wii

And what about the dozens of other shitty Wii ports out there? Like "The Force Unleashed", "Spiderman 3",or "Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2"? Or just flat out crap games like "Soul Calibur Legends", "Godzilla Unleashed", or "Far Cry Vengence"?

 

[Necromancer1991]

Take a look at the difference between Dead Rising on the 360, and Dead Rising on the Wii. Big difference there, despite the Wii version coming out later.

I feel that if Galaxy and Galaxy 2 were on more powerful consoles, you could have even bigger worlds, and more to do in them. They would be even better than they already are.

i disagree
just because capcom made a shit port, that doesnt represent the wii

And what about the dozens of other shitty Wii ports out there? Like "The Force Unleashed", "Spiderman 3",or "Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2"? Or just flat out crap games like "Soul Calibur Legends", "Godzilla Unleashed", or "Far Cry Vengence"?

Spiderman 3 sucked regardless & Soul Calibur Legends was basically a Dynasty Warriors clone and not a proper port.

 

[Pyotr Romanov]

Edit: nvm, i don't really care. Enjoy your Wii...

also known as "im wrong but would rather not look like a butthurt idiot"

But even more commonly known as "Actually, I don't feel like starting some sort of flame war, so I'll just be nice and save everybody some time by just editing out my possibly slightly offensive post, even though someone will probably find some way to even turn this edit against me."

Yeah, that's what I would tell you if that first post was mine.

Slightly OT: I liked my Wii, but I sold it because there were no more games coming out for it I was interested in. Only Rune Factory: Frontier had a chance, and that still didn't have a European release date after waiting 4 months since the reviews went up... So I gave up on my cute wittle white brick.

 

[Limzz]

Edit: nvm, i don't really care. Enjoy your Wii...

also known as "im wrong but would rather not look like a butthurt idiot"

No, more like I don't care enough to argue about it. I could write an entire essay on why I hate the Wii but why should I care if anyone else likes it?

 

[Limzz]

But even more commonly known as "Actually, I don't feel like starting some sort of flame war, so I'll just be nice and save everybody some time by just editing out my possibly slightly offensive post, even though someone will probably find some way to even turn this edit against me."

Yeah, that's what I would tell you if that first post was mine.

Saw that right after I made approximately the same post lol. Thanks

 

[robinkom]

I don't know if anyone realizes this but, hey, guess what the Wii REALLY is...

Spoiler

YES! that's right! With gimmicky controls, an optical drive, and a little more RAM. And I say this with the utmost truth in that I am, in fact, a Wii owner. Can you guess what Wii games I regularly play and enjoy on it?

YES! NONE OF THEM! Except for Super Smash Bros. Brawl when my friends are in town, I never play any of the Wii games I own! They all have the same story attached to them: "It seemed like a good idea at the time." Then I get them home, give it a shot, get tired of flailing my arms around, and go back to doing something else.

I own Zelda: Twilight Princess for Wii as I am a big big Zelda fan but I DO NOT play it. Because I... DO NOT... want to WAGGLE MY FUCKING CONTROLLER AROUND IN A ZELDA GAME!

So I looked for and bought a Gamecube copy of it and I couldn't be happier. At I wouldn't have even had to do that if it only had GC/Classic Controller support built-in.

They say the next Zelda game will be based on the MotionPlus attachment. Bugger me, now I actually have to give a shit or not play it! It probably won't amount to near as much as the feeling one gets for conquering Zelda II on the NES, the only Zelda game ever made with a difficulty so hard that the box must have a label reading "You must be this Asian to play this game."

Speaking of Motion Plus, it is nice but it's a serious battery hog. I use a rechargeable battery pack but it's still inconvenient... and even then, I only have Wii Sports Resort to use it with since it came with the bloody thing! That was fun for a while but at some point, it all becomes a moot point when you realize that there's no real feedback for all your flailing around. There's no reaction to the action that physically affects you, it's just arbitrary swatting-at-flies motions.

Maybe Nintendo can use your ill-gotten soccer mom money they made on the Wii and invest some actual development in the system hardware of their next tiny wonder box.

The picture of the gamecube put a smile on my face. It's true, though, the battery hog is back. I had thought my days of drawers full of dead batteries were over when I bought the SP.

I don't disagree with what you're saying. I just want to know how you figure the money was ill-gotten?

That was a joke. If you want it to be.

The alternate explanation would be "suckering non-gamers into buying their gimmicks to make them feel like they're one of the 'suddenly popular nerdy people.'"

 

[Gigaguy64]

What are these "good Wii games" you speak of?

Tatsunoko VS Capcom, The Conduit, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Super Mario Galaxy, Muramasa:Tdb, SSBB, Fire Emblem:Radiant Dawn, Legend of Zelda:TP, Monster Hunter:Tri, No More Heroes, No More Heroes 2.

Just to name a few.

OT: Honestly i don't listen to comments like that anymore, i just shrug it off and continue to Enjoy my Wii.

Its the "There are no good games on the Wii!" that gets me.

 

[Aura Guardian]

I don't buy the argument "The Wii is technologically inferior to the PS3 and 360" that doesn't warrant "good for a Wii game" the PS2 is technologically inferior to the PS3 and 360 but its good games are not "good for a PS2 game"

I get the feeling good for a Wii game is because people don't want to admit it is just good because they feel they will be saying the Wii is a good console.

Sadly...this is the era of graphics. Meaning, if it looks shiny and its brown and grey, its a great game. Meanwhile, games like these

Spoiler

never get noticed or bash because it's the wii or it's too colorful

Spoiler: But theres always a silver lining

 

[TOGSolid]

The Wii is less powerful than the other two consoles out right now. That is fact. If a Wii game were to have been made for one of those two consoles, developers would be able to do more with their game, far more likely than not, making it better.

Hardware does not equal quality. Your argument is pure shit. The Wii is a haven for shovelware and a lot of the games are only barely one step above Newgrounds flash games. A few of the games are legitimately good like Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom and No More Heroes, but most of the Wii's game selection is pretty fucking bad.

 

[Marter]

The Wii is less powerful than the other two consoles out right now. That is fact. If a Wii game were to have been made for one of those two consoles, developers would be able to do more with their game, far more likely than not, making it better.

Hardware does not equal quality. Your argument is pure shit. The Wii is a haven for shovelware and a lot of the games are only barely one step above Newgrounds flash games. A few of the games are legitimately good like Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom and No More Heroes, but most of the Wii's game selection is pretty fucking bad.

If a game like Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom were to be made on the 360 or PS3, the Developers would be able to include utilize far more content because those consoles can actually handle it. I'll go back to Dead Rising on the Wii and 360. Look at how much more can be processed at once. That is what I'm talking about here. The games would also look better, being in HD.

 

[internetzealot1]

Because the Wii is a Nintendo console, and they have always had bad third party support. And you can only play a Zelda game so many times.

 

[TOGSolid]

The Wii is less powerful than the other two consoles out right now. That is fact. If a Wii game were to have been made for one of those two consoles, developers would be able to do more with their game, far more likely than not, making it better.

Hardware does not equal quality. Your argument is pure shit. The Wii is a haven for shovelware and a lot of the games are only barely one step above Newgrounds flash games. A few of the games are legitimately good like Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom and No More Heroes, but most of the Wii's game selection is pretty fucking bad.

If a game like Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom were to be made on the 360 or PS3, the Developers would be able to include utilize far more content because those consoles can actually handle it. I'll go back to Dead Rising on the Wii and 360. Look at how much more can be processed at once. That is what I'm talking about here. The games would also look better, being in HD.

"HD"
Most of those super flashy next-gen games can barely manage their own framerates with noticeable drops into the 20s. There is a lot of trickery that happens to get those "better looking games" to run.
My perspective on console games is kinda different though, cause to me, they all look like shit. They're just different grades of shit. I judge them all on gameplay alone. (1920 x 1080 - Constant 60FPS on everything with all options maxed. Now THAT is HD. PC Gaming ftw.).

Snip.

Yes yes yes and more yes. Those are all awesome games.