Forget the zombie apocalypse
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instead of banning guns altogether ( a useless move) the government should instead move to regulate handguns and assualt weapons. nobody has any use for assualt weapons, and handguns are the cause of an absurd amount of gun accidents.rossatdi said:Calm down. You sound like the last person I'd want to have a gun. Also, how many cases of home owners fighting off hordes of gun armed raiders have you heard about in the last month. This isn't the wild west and it's not the apocalypse.AntiThom said:
Map of homicide rates, darker = higher. Note the USA's darker shade.
long guns are fine for hunting, and hunting only.
the constitution does not guarentee a right to assualt weapons, or even guns in general. it means for "a well-regulated militia" known in the US as the National Guard.
Well then you'd be glad to know that I own 13 firearms, and I've got another one soon to come. I've never had to use any of them in a self defense scenario, and honestly I hope I'll never have to. There's more to the right to bear arms than hunting, sport shooting and self defense, I feel people have forgotten that, you've all been desensitized by modern times. Just don't forget that people will always be people, and that's something not to take lightly.rossatdi said:
oh and check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_YTM_eAWnQ
Funny you should say that because according to offical figures the murder rate in the US is 200 times greater than in Japan. In Japan no private citizen can buy a handgun legally.AntiThom said:
Also, just because a citizen is 'law-abiding' doesn't mean they are incapable of murder - the majority of murders are so called 'passion killers' who just get so enraged they end up killing someone out of heat of the moment. Anyone, law-abiding or not, can do this; taking away guns prevents this from happening, naturally. There was a case where a police sheriff (more than just a respectable citizen, I'm sure) ended up shooting his family out of heat of the moment.
I live in the UK where we aren't allowed to buy guns without a proper license and I am very glad of that fact; our police officers aren't given guns either (with the exception of the armed response units, obviously).
And avykins, that's an awfully big brush you're using there.
Ok, someone get this guy some banjo. Gun control stops people getting the guns in the first place. Yes bad people can get them but it makes it even harder to get them.AntiThom said:
"No guns = good."
That's the most naive comment I have ever heard! The UNDENIABLE FACT is that THE BAD, CRIMAL GUYS will be using guns and the such to hurt their victims right? So, by taking away the basal right to bear arms you are leaving civilians totally open to be the victims of the gun-wielding criminals who prey on the weak.
That's the most naive comment I have ever heard! The UNDENIABLE FACT is that THE BAD, CRIMAL GUYS will be using guns and the such to hurt their victims right? So, by taking away the basal right to bear arms you are leaving civilians totally open to be the victims of the gun-wielding criminals who prey on the weak.
I'm also glad I live in the UK. Where the NRA doesn't make up a political lobby.AntiThom said:
Desensitized to what? Gun ownership was never particularly big thing in the UK. I get hunting with a rifle but what is the point of owning a handgun or an assault rifle. Those things are designed to kill people. Only.
Also, you need to watch your tone or the banhammer of common decency might get swung your way. This forum is about the free, courteous, exchange of ideas. We know you're from florida but that doesn't mean you have to act like a stereotype.
I'll check the video out when I get home, I'm sure it's hilariously poor journalism at its best.
A law won't stop a criminal, but it makes their job harder. How many people from the UK know anyone who could supply you with anything liek a pistol. Shotguns farmers have, air rifles a few people have them but not a fucking semi-auto pistol! In your country most people have guns under their pillows. I've never seen an illegal gun in my life. The fact that I havn't sort of proves it works.AntiThom said:
wow, you're an idiot, i also believe the smell you're referring is probably your rotten teeth or in your case "tooth". despite this douche, i would rather have a good economy(clinton's terms) and strict gun laws rather then the bush terms of poor economy and gun toting fear mongers running things. people are getting too worked up over obama's plans. let's get the economy going again and then worry about meaningless stuff.avykins said:
Your post strikes me like a plate of too-dry pasta. Needs some source. Frankly, until you back up your post with some evidence from an unbiased source, I'm going to be more than a little skeptical over your claim that not allowing people to own guns increases the amount of violent crime across the entire board, even those involving fists or knives.AntiThom said:
It's actually been changed recently to Man Law #1236b. Didn't you read the memo?rossatdi said:
If someone can please explain the last time they've fought someone off with a firearm please do. If a random stranger wants to kill you he can simply walk up behind you and put a knife through your heart. Having a gun back home on the ranch isn't going to stop that.Lonewolfu571 said:
I don't think private citizens need guns. I've carried around a tazer for the majority of my life and have yet to be in a situation were I felt I couldn't defend myself because i didn't have a gun. The few times I have been mugged and the guy had a gun he's always already had the gun out and pointing it at me before I even knew what was happening. So even if I had a gun at that point I'm pretty sure he would shoot me if I went to grab it. Others who apparently couldn't afford guns have also tried to mug me and all I needed to do was show them the tazer and they've run away. Of course, this is just my personal experience.
Ohhhh everybody's so full of factsrossatdi said:
Assault rifles (being any rifle capable of automatic fire) have been illegal in America since 1934, I'm not talking about those. "Assault-style" rifles, which were banned by Clinton, are functionally no different from a hunting rifle, they effectively banned a type of gun based on the way it looks alone. When Clinton imposed the ban the media purposely mislabeled these rifles as being the same things you see troops and terrorist carry into combat, and givin your opinion on it, I'd say this EFFECTIVELY DESENSITIZED YOU. As for handguns they serve a great purpose to defend lives in both the hands of police and civilians.