FortressCraft Q&A (for those who still think it's a blatant rip-off)

[pope_of_larry]

ya and on the subject of things that are not ripoffs/cashins digimon was not a rip off of pokemon.

 

[L4WLI3T]

Stop acting like hipsters, its a ripoff, so what? its not like they are saying its an original game, and idea that has never been done before.

 

[nuba km]

ya and on the subject of things that are not ripoffs/cashins digimon was not a rip off of pokemon.

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I mean the only reason it's called a rip off is because it came out slightly later and had mon in it but let's face it they are very different but people say: it has evolutions in it, it has pokedex like things in it, kids train monsters, it has monsters etc but I don't think we should stray of topic but if you want to discuss digimon with someone PM me.

 

[mew4ever23]

Sorry, that video failed utterly to show me that FortressCraft is not ripping off Minecraft. So far, all that the community has seen is Minecraft classic with better graphics.

Creation & Multiplayer: Every thing I've seen tells me it's a carbon copy of Minecraft classic with a texture pack.
Crafting: I'm think it's safe to assume this is where you craft things.. Just like Minecraft.
Life: I'm think it's safe to assume this is where you stay alive while working on your base.. Just like Minecraft.
Machinery: Not a clue what this entails.
Minions: Not a clue what this entails.
PvP: This exists in Minecraft, but these people are called 'griefers'.
Fortress Assault Mode: Something tells me this is where the key distinctions from Minecraft are.

All in all, It's looking like the creator's tried to make something that already exists in his own way.. Almost like Dr. Evil and his 'Sharks with frikkin' laser beams attached to their heads'.

Also, I completely agree with everyone about how out of place the XBox Live avatars look. He proably would have the support of the community if he had gone for 'Minecraft mod' instead of 'Game that looks, behaves, and sounds like Minecraft, but is totally not'

 

[Chainsaws_of_War_2]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! Will people please stop saying that fortresscraft is a carbon copy of minecraft from a BAD 50sec trailer that showed us the basic editing game mode.

I think minecraft is the birth of a new genre, in the same way one platforming game had to start things but guess what when other similar platformers with some differences, which fortress craft has if you check stuff up about it, they weren't called rip-offs they were just trying some slight differences with a new genre which fortress craft will do, well at least from what I know about it.

This sums up my thoughts pretty nicely.

Minecraft was the first in this new genre of games I suppose we'll call "Cubic Sandbox", and as a community we should have expected there would be more. Yes it looks similar, but hell, how much more different can you get from 3D cubes in a world made of sharp edges?

Console owners want a taste of the action too my PC friends.

 

[webby]

first I am making the point that people are claiming that this is a rip off way to quickly, now back to the sonic mario thing:
both have the same basic environment being a far away land with wird wildlife and plants and a lot of gaps (fortress craft will have a different game mode that minecraft doesn't have like the maze, linear thing), as for the underwater thing in both they move slower then they usually do but increase horizontal movement, they both move quickly and jump as well as gaining power ups to improve their chance of survival (their similar type of block in fortresscraft then their are in minecraft but they will function differently), My analogy stands.

I gave 5 differences 1 of which is going to be something new for this type of game not yet done by it's counterpart (machinery), 1 which some arrogant people don't believe, 1 which is a important part of the gameplay, 1 which is a point that this game will develop the same way that minecraft has developed from a infiniminerish game to a very different kind of game over more then a year, and 1 being a new gamemechanic, things seem different depending on how you phrase them.

showing that people are using flawed arguments out of hate without researching something does validate what fortresscraft is doing.

basically as this got long, no matter how ignorant people are fortress craft hasn't done anything wrong unless nearly every game ever has been unoriginal cloning other older games which are clearly better and these newer games should not be bought because of it.

People are calling it a rip off because it looks almost identical, it may be soon but that argument can't be denied.

I still say you're stretching the Sonic vs Mario thing but as I have previously said, regardless of your opinion on that matter, or peoples opinion that MineCraft is a rip off on Infiniminer, that doesn't change the situation we have with FortressCraft. That situation being that FortressCraft it is a rip off.

Now lets go through your differences:
1) Machinery. You admitted you know nothing about this, how can you make any claim about what it is or what it does?
2) I assume the thing you go on about arrogant people not believing is new coding which is odd as I have previously said it is new coding. Just that the new coding was a necessity and hardly something that should be commended. Would you praise someone remaking Mario for a different console if they coded it using a different system??
3) When MineCraft was an "Infiniminer clone" as you described it it was free. Also, future changes are irrelevant to how the game is now, and the game now is a rip off.
4) New enemies are not a new game mechanic.

I don't hate FortressCraft. I kind of admire its business sense in a way. However, taking an idea for a game and blatantly ripping it off in the hopes that people will see the similarities in the hopes of taking advantage of someone elses success, whilst strategically sound, is artistically bankrupt.

 

[Binerexis]

Minecraft was the first in this new genre of games I suppose we'll call "Cubic Sandbox", and as a community we should have expected there would be more. Yes it looks similar, but hell, how much more different can you get from 3D cubes in a world made of sharp edges?

Console owners want a taste of the action too my PC friends.

Minecraft is already part of a genre; it's an open world sandbox game. Maybe we should have expected clones to pop up like the blatant Call of Duty clones in the FPS genre but is it too much to just hope that, for once, an idea won't be repackaged and sold back to us?

Minecraft runs on Java and it's not as if you need a top of the line graphics card or processor to run it, I think it's fairly safe to assume that a household with a 360 also has at least one desktop computer or laptop. If console gamers want a taste of the action then why don't they branch themselves out into playing games on a PC?

 

[Ghengis John]

The lot of you talking about how mine craft was the first in this genre or so very original would do well to shut up and watch.

 

[teh_Canape]

Rip Off = Rip Off.

thank you for such a complex opinion, professor

OT: as for me, I'm looking forward to this, rather than a ripoff, is more like a fan-port, I mean, it's consoles exclusives, as far as I remember reading

and also said it will expand the concept of minecraft, you know, machinery and shit

as a minecraft fan, I'm looking forward to this

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

I'd never heard of this before, and yes yes blah blah it's a ripoff, it's still cool because I'm not much of a PC gamer and this looks accessible to me

Exactly.

It'd be nice if they shared some of the cash with minecraft devs, but whatever.

 

[Dogstile]

That video actually didn't make me think it was less of a rip-off, in fact it did the exact opposite, it somehow managed to make it look even worse.

Admittedly Minecraft ripped off a lot of InfiniteMiner when it was made, however it was only used as a base and expanded into something quite different from its source material whereas this thing isn't even trying to look like it's different.

Chapter one is not trying to be different. That's the Idea. The other chapters that build on it will branch off into something different from its source material.

... hey! that's what minecraft did! Isn't that clever!

 

[gigastar]

Its still a Minecraft ripoff, no matter how you change or turn it..

Nope, still a rip-off.

If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, feels like a duck and plays like a duck...

I'd never heard of this before, and yes yes blah blah it's a ripoff

Copyright or no the gameplay is still a ripoff.

In that case, Minecraft is just a rip-off of infiniminer.

I dont deny this but i have a point to make with you.

When Notch went to work on Minecraft, Infiniminer was already dead and its source code out and on top of that Notch was at least up front about it and on top of that he at least expanded on the concept.

 

[JimmyC99]

this does basically look like what a HD Minecraft texture mod would look like if someone made it. i like indy devs it adds variety and competition to the market, you know what i'd like this game more if the dev stood up and said, yea its HD minecraft with some other mechanics

 

[gigastar]

If console gamers want a taste of the action then why don't they branch themselves out into playing games on a PC?

Edit: Sorry posted without adding.

Ok, my sister tried playing Minecraft on a laptop (peaceful mode on) and the first thing she did after 2 mins of figuring out what things were was basically complain to me that it didnt work.

Some people just dont work with computers.

 

[GiantRaven]

Ok, my sister tried playing Minecraft on a laptop (peaceful mode on) and the first thing she did after 2 mins of figuring out what things were was basically complain to me that it didnt work.

Some people just dont work with computers.

Was that due to the fact that it was on a PC, or due to the fact that it's really fucking stupid that Minecraft doesn't have a tutorial?

 

[gigastar]

Ok, my sister tried playing Minecraft on a laptop (peaceful mode on) and the first thing she did after 2 mins of figuring out what things were was basically complain to me that it didnt work.

Some people just dont work with computers.

Was that due to the fact that it was on a PC, or due to the fact that it's really fucking stupid that Minecraft doesn't have a tutorial?

PC mostly. Shes tried other games like Half Life 2 and several RTS games. She just doesnt function well with keyboards.

On her 360 however playing L4D2 she is nearly better than I am at it.

 

[MrGalactus]

But that's fan-made, not official.

 

[MartialArc]

Minecraft was the first in this new genre of games I suppose we'll call "Cubic Sandbox"

Ugh, no. Infiniminer has that claim, I think. There might even be something more underground I don't know about that predates it, but I'm not sure.

But yes, it is a cool new genre somewhat. You could make the claim that every FPS is a ripoff of their predecessors, but that would be pretty stupid.

Minecraft is a better game than infiniminer was, maybe this game will be a better game than minecraft. Maybe a little competition on the scene pushes development, who knows.

The best thing about minecraft, IMO, is that it proves that people will play games even if they don't have million dollar graphics budgets. Hopefully it pushes indie games a bit more mainstream.

The real tragedy is that Zach is almost completely unrecognized as pioneering this style of game (I'm pretty sure, again there might be something else out there, who knows) even though Minecraft cites his game as an inspiration. This thread just illustrates this =(.

 

[Irridium]

I dont deny this but i have a point to make with you.

When Notch went to work on Minecraft, Infiniminer was already dead and its source code out and on top of that Notch was at least up front about it and on top of that he at least expanded on the concept.

How do we know that FortressCraft is just a rip-off though? Has anyone here played it? Has anyone played with the mechanics and all that? No, nobody but the creators have.

So dismissing it as a rip-off before its released and we've gotten a chance to try it is just stupid. To my knowledge nobody did that with Minecraft, so who should this be any different?

Is it because Minecraft is still being worked on? Who knows, maybe it'll inspire some competition between the two and we, the customers, get 2 great products out of it.

Who knows, maybe I'll actually stick with FortressCraft for more then 2 weeks before I stop playing it because its boring.