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Chipperz

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Oo Rev oO said:
*snipping the psychotic ramblings*
I hate America because I have friends in the army who are being sent off to die in some sandtrap hellhole because of an ideal that isn't even my country's. The least Obama can do is try to make ammends for the British (and other non-American) soldiers who have died for politics which, by and large, are not their own.

Also, I like being able to go to a hospital when I'm ill or have gravely injured myself and know that I can get medical attention. America is not the greatest country in the world, I'd rate it slightly higher than a Third World Country, but that's only because you're near Canada and some of that has to rub off. Now fuck off and clean your guns.
 
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and I HATE! how he is going around saying sorry to every fucking country for America. It just showing weakness Imo. Did any other country say sorry for when the did something bad? hell no.
So now accountability and improving foreign relations are bad things? What a strange world we live in.
You dumbass, you're not gonna win this. Noone is gonna justify what Obama's doing. Because that isn't improving relations with other countries....It's siding with them!

You call me the ignorant one. Get killed.
Yeah... Everyone hates America, and it's all the Bush Administration's fault. Obama's done more for international relations since January than Bush did in eight years. Of course, Obama could be like you and we could just side with Al Queda to nuke the lot of you. Trust me, if Obama was like you, that would be an option.
Go ahead and drink your kool-aid Chipperz. The rest of us here will think rationally and understand that Obama is NOT the savior of the world and that apologizing to other countries for our "mistakes" makes us lower in the international power structure, not higher. And it's not the Bush Administrations fault entirely that other countries don't like us. Now any intelligent individual can agree that not everything Bush did was popular in the international community. But then again since when was this a popularity contest? But regardless I can tell you why we aren't liked much. The rest of the world resents us because we are the greatest country that has ever existed not to mention the most powerful (apologies to the Brits out there because if it weren't for you all we wouldn't be here). The only way Obama can make the rest of the world like us more is if he A) Fundamentally changes the USA. and B) Weakens our military prowess. Obama has actually promised to do A) but B) Thankfully he is not doing. At least not in Afghanistan where he actually sent in more troops with whom to maybe beat those POS Al Qaeda.
HAHAHA...oh, wait, you're serious. Look, I'm an American, but if we were the greatest country in the world, we would not be hated by, oh, everyone. We also would not discriminate legally based on sexual orientation (still legal to do that in every state except California and possibly the states that allow gay marriages). As for being the most powerful...if you define "powerful" as "has a shitload of nukes" then yes, we are. If you define "powerful" as "influences other countries" then we are not. If we were, we would be able to get more than a couple of countries to help us out in Iraq. Also, we voted for Bush. If that doesn't prove that we aren't the greatest country ever, what does?
 

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paulgruberman said:
Fox may have set the precedent, but all cable news stations are following. They are entertainment first and foremost, accuracy is somewhere further down their priority list, if present at all.

Newspapers at least made efforts to ensure accuracy and integrity, but they're dying out as people prefer juicier falsifications with flashy presentation.
Exactly. This isn't just Fox News: all the news stations out there are favoring innaccuracy and sensationalism to gather views. Look at how many "END OF HUMANITY" diseases they have proclaimed over the past ten years, for example.

Now look at how many times humanity has ended.

There's a sight discrepancy.
 

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I try to watch several news stations if I want to really get an idea of what's going on. ALL news news is slanted one way or another, and I figure if I can get a bunch of differing points of view, I can then form my own well thought-out opinion. At any rate, I don't fully trust ANY news nowadays. I will always be skeptical and rightly so.
 

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Chipperz said:
Also, I like being able to go to a hospital when I'm ill or have gravely injured myself and know that I can get medical attention.
I live in America, and I can get medical attention. So can everyone else. My wife is a nurse, she knows what's up, do you think we turn people away at the emergency room or something? We don't. Everybody gets care, if the people don't pay, the hospital eats the bill. Happens every day. Who do you know in America that isn't getting care? Let me know so I can direct that person to the help they need. Thanks!
 

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chronobreak said:
Chipperz said:
Also, I like being able to go to a hospital when I'm ill or have gravely injured myself and know that I can get medical attention.
I live in America, and I can get medical attention. So can everyone else. My wife is a nurse, she knows what's up, do you think we turn people away at the emergency room or something? We don't. Everybody gets care, if the people don't pay, the hospital eats the bill. Happens every day. Who do you know in America that isn't getting care? Let me know so I can direct that person to the help they need. Thanks!
I... That...

Can I like, live at your hospital? Since obviously it is located in the magical dimension of fairyland - USA.

Then I wouldn't have to pay my massive hospital bills. I mean, technically I don't HAVE to, but, well, the point of bills is you sort of need to pay them if you like living in a house and all.
 

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I... That...

Can I like, live at your hospital? Since obviously it is located in the magical dimension of fairyland - USA.

Then I wouldn't have to pay my massive hospital bills. I mean, technically I don't HAVE to, but, well, the point of bills is you sort of need to pay them if you like living in a house and all.
I don't know what you're talking about. What you do with your bills is your own problem. Of course, I would recommend paying them, but you seem to have missed my original point. People - be they poor, homeless, uninsured, whatever - will get the emergency care they need regardless of if they intend to pay their bill or not. You will NOT be turned down at an ER if you come in with serious symptoms. If you walk into an ER with a gunshot wound, for example, you WILL be treated.
 

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Fox news has a reputation of hiring ignorant racist/ homophobic (intolerant people in general) anchors such as Fred Savage -who said on air and I quote- "you one of them saudimites? Yea, we'll I hope you get AIDS and die" and Tucker Carlson "all athiests are born without a set of morals and values and are more likely to be domestic terrorists". They give the right a bad name and hate Obama cause he's not John McCain. It is biased news, as is a lot of sources, but they take it to a whole new level.
 

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Feh, Fox is too right and CNN n NBC are too left. Watch the BBC if you want news...
BBC isn't bad, but I preferred CNN International. Surprisingly, the best news I've ever seen came from Al-Jazeera English. Lots of high quality reporting with very little bias in the actual stories. While the network obviously has an agenda, most of the bias and slanted reporting was found in the non-reporting segments (which were less frequent than they are on other networks).
 

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I don't know why we are arguing a point of opinion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion regardless of how outlandish it may seem to someone else. I believe we can all agree to disagree. All I know is that I love a good heartfelt debate and I love my country. God Bless the US.
 

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First off, who said anything about public healthcare? All I said was it wrong to go around and say sorry to another countries for when we just went over and got rid of a dicator.

Second, I never said he trying to ruin the country. Your just now putting words in my mouth. and third, we are already triple in debt thanks to his "simulates plans" which is a big backfire. And last, show me where Germany or any other people who did worst then us say sorry to the people they did bad things. Did Japan say sorry to China when they unlease their soldiers on them to rape,murder and or whatever to them? Did Japan say sorry to us for bombing Pearl harbor when we weren't in the war? (Not picking on Japan, just WW2 they did just as many bad things as Germany). We as Americans also did bad things, but saying sorry when we didn't do anything bad is just wrong.
"we are already triple in debt thanks to his "simulates plans" (hopefully meant to read: Our debt has tripled thanks to his sTimulous plans - which it has not). This is rather off. Much (if not most) of our 13-14 trillion dollar debt happened on Bush's watch after events of his planning such as the Iraq war which we're paying god knows how much for. And it didn't help that Bush LOWERED taxes to pay for all this, instead choosing to pay with borrowed money which of course has huge intrest rates there-in drastically raising our debt. And I would very much like to know where you got that "triple in debt" part, because that is nowhere near true.

Apologies, eh? Germany has payed about 33 Billion USD in reparations after World War 1 (copied from Wiki-Answers, lulz - I did it for them). Obviously not bringing back lives, but it's a nice gesture. And Japan didn't apologize for Pearl Harbour? How about the fact that Japan WARNED US about it. And seriously, after the good ol' US of A fucking NUKED Hiroshima and Nagasaki causing God knows how many casualties, I don't think USA is in a position to talk.
Your late dude..I already heard about the Germany thing. and for the Japan...it was the only fucking way to stop the battle. We gave them a chance to surrender just like them warn us. They refuse, like how we didn't listen to them. So we bomb them. And I'm done talking on this thread. Getting annoying.
 

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Fox aren't reliable. Go to Sky News or BBC
You relise that Sky News is owned by the same guy that owns Fox News, right dear? He also owns The Times (the UK one). So yeah...
BBC is the best for news. They're neutral by definition.
 

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Oo Rev oO said:
I don't know why we are arguing a point of opinion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion regardless of how outlandish it may seem to someone else. I believe we can all agree to disagree. All I know is that I love a good heartfelt debate and I love my country. God Bless the US.
Cause some people opinions are "right" way of thinking. I really don't care if someone thinks obama is awesome. I don't, and if you have a problem then just piss off. I thought bush did ok as president. He wasn't the best, but what other president dealt with 9/11 attack, hurricane Katrina, war, and other stuff. He did poorly in the no child left behind(Which is a good idea, but like I said before poorly done.) The patriot act isn't bad. Since it only "watches" the people who are acting like a terrorists....just like Akmen...The terrorist.A terrifying terrorist.

(End post on this topic. So do not quote me and expect a answer.)
 

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You relise that Sky News is owned by the same guy that owns Fox News, right dear? He also owns The Times (the UK one). So yeah...
BBC is the best for news. They're neutral by definition.
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the funny part is that SkyNews is owned by News Corp, who owns Fox News. Rupert and his son both gave speeches on how the BBC limits their ability to really report the news cause the BBC offers it for free and reports it fairly and has all these rules on it

Fox News is as bad as NBC and CNN, when Bush was in power they were saying how awesome he was and how great he was for America and such
Ok ok I did not know that Fox and Sky were basically the same thing
 

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Your late dude..I already heard about the Germany thing. and for the Japan...it was the only fucking way to stop the battle. We gave them a chance to surrender just like them warn us. They refuse, like how we didn't listen to them. So we bomb them. And I'm done talking on this thread. Getting annoying.
There's always more than one way. I don't know how the hell you can justify that. And no war should be ended with the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civillians. Nuking military bases or postions is one thing that might fly, but nuking a city full of innocent people is wrong.
 

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Well I think that Fox is the greatest and most reliable news station on the air. Their coverage on the sex scene in Mass Effect really changed my life. The amount of time that they spend on research their topic before they air it is astounding!

This is sarcasm for those of you who don't know your head from your ass...
I know what you mean. It's nice to see a news station that really gets gaming. They knew so much they could basically have spoiled the ending for us.

The head is the one with a big creek in the middle right?
lol
 

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ExaltedK9 said:
You dumbass, you're not gonna win this. Noone is gonna justify what Obama's doing. Because that isn't improving relations with other countries....It's siding with them!

You call me the ignorant one. Get killed.
What a moron. Your country finally has a leader who is respected and the international community is finally starting to warm up to you morons again and you run your mouth about "sides" and wishing death upon those who disagree with you. Two things that got the US in it's current sorry state.

People like you are killing your country and are going to take the rest of the world down with it.
Well, I'm not the president. And I'm not the one siding with the ones who can so openly speak of their wishes to kill Americans.

You are brainwashed, you can't see any wrong in what Obama does. He could kick down your door, shoot your dog, and would probably still vote for him out of blind ignorance!
For starters, I didn't vote for Obama because I'm not American. I thought that would be obvious from my post but apartently basic reading comphrehension is not one of your skills.

And last time I check, he's not "siding" with anyone. Is he suddenly planning on instituting Shia Law? Is he going to give passports to terrorists?

Hell I can see plenty of things Obama keeps doing wrong; he keeps reffering to gamers negatively, he isn't living up to his promise of dismantling the Defense of Marriage law, trying too hard to please the Republicans (although it's good he at least gave them the chance to get involved), etc. etc.
 

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Go ahead and drink your kool-aid Chipperz. The rest of us here will think rationally and understand that Obama is NOT the savior of the world and that apologizing to other countries for our "mistakes" makes us lower in the international power structure, not higher.
How so? Does the US military run on being dicks to everyone, and apologise reduce their efficency? Does the fact that he apologised for your mistakes make all of America's enemies go "Well he's apologising so we should attack! It's not like they still have their large military and many allies!" while twirling their mustaches? Is it an unwritten law that if a US president actually apologises and takes responsibility to the international community it breaks one of the seals to hell hidden under New Jersey?

And it's not the Bush Administrations fault entirely that other countries don't like us. Now any intelligent individual can agree that not everything Bush did was popular in the international community. But then again since when was this a popularity contest?
Around about the time you guys started trying to convince the rest of the world you were cool and it wasn't nice to kill you guys. You know, trying to stop terrorists from attacking you? Yeah 9/11 happened because the US were dicks to Al Quadia after the cold war ended and they weren't needed anymore. Now apologising wouldn't stop the really crazy nutjobs, but the suckers they get to blow themselves up might feel a bit more reluctant to target you guys if you made yourselves likeable.

But regardless I can tell you why we aren't liked much. The rest of the world resents us because we are the greatest country that has ever existed not to mention the most powerful (apologies to the Brits out there because if it weren't for you all we wouldn't be here).
Yes, we're all so jealous of your high crime rate, your horrible public education system, your high rate of obesitiy, your crappy cars, your high rate of illiteracy, your fox news, your crappy health care, your egos, etc. etc. Honestly you're average in every field that matters and excell in all the wrong areas.

As for being powerful...really your military kinda sucks. You take absurdly high causalities doing things and don't really specialise in any one area. The only advantage the US military has is that it has such a large variaity of equipment and weapons, which would be nullified by large enough numbers (Russia, China) or by non-conviental enemies (insurgients, gurrellia's). But don't feel bad about that last one; France sucked at that too.