Words can have different meanings or imply different things according to context. Welcome to language.
FPS is not the same as "shooter."
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medium - one thing through which another passes. an agency of accomplishment.DVSAurion said:
Radio copper or glass are media for your digital broadcasts.
Digital broadcasts are the medium for your television networks
Television networks are the medium for news services
News services are the medium through which new information is passed (or utter bollocks as the case may be).
Which is why news services branded themselves, in typical arrogance, THE media.
In this case:
Consoles and PC's are the media for a video-games
Video-games are the medium for first person games
first person games are the medium for a shooter game
The shooter game is the medium through which a story is passed (or just explody escapism as the case may be).
In this much the original poster was correct, the means of play takes precedence over the action type.
In every other sense he must have been trolling, you can say shooter just as you can say electronic music, it can be used as a general term for a range of things and everyone knows the target markets are similar.
Let's look at the abbreviation.
FPS = First Person Shooter.
You can see why people call it a shooter. While there are many other types of game in which you shoot things, you can see how, especially in the west people assume shooter is FPS.
I've noticed it's less true on consoles than PCs though due to the many third person shooting games on those.
FPS = First Person Shooter.
You can see why people call it a shooter. While there are many other types of game in which you shoot things, you can see how, especially in the west people assume shooter is FPS.
I've noticed it's less true on consoles than PCs though due to the many third person shooting games on those.
SHoot eM UP, I think.EgoDeusEst said:
OT: Yes, because using simplified language while still having people know what you're talking about is definitely off-limits.
I get you, message received loud and clear guvnor. I still need a handy single term to refer to both FPS and third person shooters though so from now on I will call them man baby toy soldier games or MBTSG to avoid confusion.
Pretentious =/= IntellectualHalo Fanboy said:
If it's a game where you 'shoot' things then it is, by definition, a 'shooter'. Feel free to refuse to use such "lowbrow", general terms if you want, but don't act as though you're somehow elevated by the desire to make unnecessary distinctions...
XDTriggerHappyAngel said:So "FPS" belongs to the category "Shooter", but you can't call it a Shooter?
That means that a Pistol is a Gun, but you can't call it a Gun
OP, your logic isn't logical
Anyway, people understand. Shooter generally refers to the FP or TP varieties. SHMUP has referred to Horizontal and Vertical shooters for years, and rail shooters have been called rail shooters for years.
Yeah Doom is the best game in the game in the game genre. Even saying Doom is "a great shooter" is a retarded statement. Doom is great compared to what, Pink Sweets?Xhu said:
You may have caught me here, so thanks. Here's an addendum to my previous statements; calling exclusively FPSs shooter is the real problem. Here's a quote that demonstrates this.TriggerHappyAngel said:So "FPS" belongs to the category "Shooter", but you can't call it a Shooter?
That means that a Pistol is a Gun, but you can't call it a Gun
OP, your logic isn't logical
...Sexy Devil said:
Those games are not FPSs. If the primary mechanic isn't shooting then it isn't an FPS.Netrigan said:
For casual use maybe? If we want to commentate on or criticize anything then with any discipline then we need use the right language. Even paid journalist say this trash.Snipermanic said:
Good idea. I was actually thinking about that when I made this topic. Of all the genres those are the only mechanically similar ones.More Fun To Compute said:
I doubt your word will catch on though
I seriously cannot fathom how you can think we don't need to sort Time Crisis and Contra into different genres. Quit talking about games if you can't understand something so obvious.Substance-E said:
I would be one of them, except I tend to think of Contra, instead. Seriously, this is a case of the kids who grew up after the end of 2D gaming appropriating a term that meant something else when those of us above about 18 were little. I understand what is generally meant by shooter today, but when I was a kid, there was no such thing as a "Shmup" -- those games were all called "Shooters," and they were the only ones with that exact appellation. Then again, FPS's were called "Doom clones," rail shooters involving light guns were called "light gun games," and rail shooters along the lines of StarFox, if they weren't just called shooters, were called "on rails shooters," or some variation of the term.Onyx Oblivion said:
I guess, for better or worse, the meaning of the genre titles have shifted in the last ten or fifteen years. No matter how annoying it is, it's not like anyone is really confused when someone says "shooter" to mean FPS.
I think Halo is a pretty cool guy. Eh invented proper grammar and doesn't afraid of anything.The_root_of_all_evil said:
On topic: The stupidity and pettiness of this complaint, it astounds me.
Yes i do understand these meanings and you're being very rude simply because your thread did not go your way.Halo Fanboy said:
A game mechanic (i.e. the medium of play) is entirely different from a genre which is the culmination of aesthetic and atmosphere. Please know your terms before you approach threads. And your language. The escapist is a respectable website, not a flame arena.
How is this worth making a thread over?
And who needs genres anyway, why do things have to have specific descriptions? All of this nonsense just leads to the confusing pointless bullshit that exists with music right now, like "psychobilly progressive jazz punk" or "symphonic experimental avantgarde post-metal".
What would Mass Effect 2 classify as for example? Science-fiction-sandbox-third-person-shooter-role-playing-game-mining-simulator-dating-game, or for short SciFi-STPSRPGMSDG? Might as well go all the way if you want to complain about people not being specific enough.
And who needs genres anyway, why do things have to have specific descriptions? All of this nonsense just leads to the confusing pointless bullshit that exists with music right now, like "psychobilly progressive jazz punk" or "symphonic experimental avantgarde post-metal".
What would Mass Effect 2 classify as for example? Science-fiction-sandbox-third-person-shooter-role-playing-game-mining-simulator-dating-game, or for short SciFi-STPSRPGMSDG? Might as well go all the way if you want to complain about people not being specific enough.
