Franchises you would like to kill

[TriggerHappyAngel]

Pokemon; I've loved it since Red/Blue, but they should've stopped after Ruby/Saphire

It probably would have more of a lifespan if each generation wasn't the same game every few years.

"Oh boy, starters for Black and White! I wonder if there's a new type triangle- Nope, same exact game.

True, that's what killed the series for me

 

[Someperson307]

What are some game series' that you think should no longer continue?

My top two for this are Call of Duty and Halo, not because they are generic FPS's or all the seemingly typical reasons, but there are some others why I think they cannot be sustained.

Call of Duty:
With Black Ops, the Call of Duty series has covered essentially the entire timeframe from WW2 up to modern times, and has settled on the gameplay and feature set that appeals most to its fanbase. There are three directions it can go from here, once the MW series has run its course.

It can either go back in history, which cannot work with the established gameplay and will make the fanbase reject it.

It can go into the future, which will betray what the games are all about for many people and will make the fanbase reject it.

Or, it can keep rehashing within the established timeframe, which is something Activision is more than willing to do and will keep a lot of people happy, but cannot be sustained long since it cannot offer the minor tweaks that make this strategy work for sports titles.

Add the departure of Infinity Ward's leadership and talk of additional subscription charges for future titles, and things simply cannot go well for the future of Call of Duty.

Halo:
Your talent is gone, Microsoft!! Bungie is a great developer, and their personality and relationship with fans are part of what made Halo stand out amongst the FPS crowd, and is what endeared me to them and their creative output. Add the fact that their games are the most fun (with liberal application of the "mute mic" feature) and most balanced in the entire online multiplayer scene, and it is clear that Halo cannot live without Bungie, even if they can't write a good game story to save their life.

Now that Bungie has left Halo behind to hopefully inject some new blood into the mainstream gaming scene, things cannot continue with the series. Sure, there is plenty of expanded universe to base games on, and Microsoft is sure to milk the franchise to its last drop no matter what I say, but without Bungie's personality and skill, any continuation will seem like a soulless clone of the originals.

I've seen a number of people say that a WWI Call of Duty would be great. Although I'm thinking a COD game that focuses on the zombies would be epic.

 

[TiefBlau]

I'm actually really interested in the Desmond plot.
And yeah, Ezio's kinda done to death by now.

What I would like is a game with Desmond as the assassin. Typical gameplay with modern touches. Or the rumored WWII assassin. That would be cash.

Or at least explore different cultural eras. Maybe an Asian assassin would be nice, like the one that killed Qin Shi Huangdi. Or a more modern time. Explore different kinds of weapons, like that Russian Assassin in that comic.

There's a bottomless potential for exploring different eras and we're stuck in Renaissance Italy :/

 

[kidwithxboxlive]

Sigh... so where is my list of franchises I have grown annoyed by or just dislike?

Sims (but not, like SimCity or anything),

Why sims? maybe xbox or ps3 sims. (yes im looking at you SIMS 3 for xbox.) but on the PC its AMAZING! you can make your own houses and stuff like that.
i don't see why you would want to kill it off as there are 100's of thousands (probably) that love the game...

 

[SoulIsTheGoal]

Pokemon: Totally jumped the shark now. Platinum was excellent, but it's really had its day.
Metal Gear Solid: Awful writing, awful acting, awful interaction with the game world (THERE ISN'T ANY)
Final Fantasy: There's thing, Square Enix, called gameplay. Look it up. Also, search "level design", "character arcs" and "editors".
Assassin's Creed: Please let 3 be the last. And that be the end of it. And good.
Dragonquest: HOLY SHITTINGTON BLIMEY THESE GAMES SUCK

 

[Jonny49]

None. If people enjoy it, let them play it.

...even if it's something like FIFA.

Avatar from Haze right?

Hmmmm...I'm going to say WoW so they can make 'Heart of the Swarm' better.

Indeed it is xD

 

[ManaAdvent]

Sonic: I've grown a disinterested in him around the time Sonic Heroes was released and the negativity surrounding the latter games and that done it for me. He is way past his prime and Sega is just milking the franchise for all its worth that it is not even funny. It's his time.

 

[BoredKain]

A lot of people would say this, but Final Fantasy, because obviously its gone down in quality since the earlier games and its now become a cash cow and a licence for square to stream endless remakes of crud which we dont need.

Please let us keep the memories of the decent games and not have a FF15 which is worse than the atrocity of FF13, leave it alone D:

GTA? Again as the argument I said above, they are really milking GTA with remakes and new spin-offs which make my eyes hurt. There is a limit to what GTA can do with the old formula of slicing, dicing, robbing cars and doing tedious missions for a head mafia guy.

Mario- Not sounding old here but I fondly remember picking up my game boy and playing mario as it should be, a 2D platformer with some actual difficulty. Now with some of the Wii games currently, its the same except they added new shiny effects and gimmicks to it. Please nintendo leave that plumber alone...

 

[No_Remainders]

I'm gonna have to go with Metal Gear Solid.

Hideo Kojima should just shut the fuck up.

I cant agree with this as i feel it has ended with Guns of the Patriots. From what ive seen there is nothing about the upcoming Rising that fans liked about the previous MGS games. There was enough complaints when they made Raiden the main character of Sons of Liberty.

I dont think any franchise should die unless there is absolutely no one who will continue playing the games. But i do find those sports games that are brought out every year with only very small changes kind of pointless.

Ok, that was either a typo or you just contradicted yourself.

MASSIVELY.

"I can't agree with this as I feel it has ended with Guns of the Patriots."

So in your words, you hope it doesn't stop, because you think it already stopped?
Huh?

 

[Geekosaurus]

So this is just a 'hate on established franchises' thread?

 

[Nfritzappa]

So this is just a 'hate on established franchises' thread?

Yes.

 

[Hybridwolf]

Halo's dead, anything with the halo title now is just a last attempt to revive it so thats that.

GTA needs to move to a new fresh location (Not San Andreas) or just take a break for awhile.

COD will struggle to find new conflicts, but the Infinity Ward series still has to end somehow, be it by a new company or Treyarch.

Gears still has life left in it, but that could all change this winter...

Bad company can go die for sure. The second game took everything good about the first (Decent character interaction, Perkless mutiplayer, brill maps), killed that and then went for the Russian V America situation. I'm aware that was the conflict in the first one, but it was never explored fully, they where just the bad guys in the way of the gold. Same for medal of honor, unless Danger close makes all of it.

Dead rising IF they attempt to add a new character. You have two brillant characters ready to kick arse, if you don't use them then I've lost faith in Blue Castle.

Thats all for now...

 

[baddude1337]

I wouldn't say kill a franchise. I'd like the Call of Duty to take a break for a bit at least to give the developers more time to throw around good ideas and refresh the game play a bit.

I think Mario games need to be cut back a lot more. Not the big ones, just his billion-odd spin-offs.

 

[SilverUchiha]

I played Sims 3 for the PC and was bored within about an hour of setting up the game and getting my house. Not enough things were burning or dying. There was as much control over the characters as I had first thought. In short, I felt that Sims 3 was a big disappointment for me. I don't personally blame the game, but the people who told me how great it was. Perhaps they should be killed instead of the franchise, but I do believe murder is illegal in most states and countries.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

It can either go back in history, which cannot work with the established gameplay and will make the fanbase reject it.

You sure?

I for one would think it would be kind of cool to go back through the ages when muskets and flintlock or precussion cap pistols were the staple weapons of military warfare.

Like a game set during the american civil war or the why not the thirty years war in europe? Think beginning of the 1600's and onwards to the early 1800's.

Would be kind of interesting to see how they pull something like that off for a first person shooter (although it would probably include a lot of melee combat as well).

Also World War 1 has been incredibly overlooked in my opinion when it comes to first person shooters. Would be kind of awesome to experience an advance over no mans land under the cover of a creeping barrage and avoiding getting gunned down by machine guns.


On-topic:

Final Fantasy should go. (seriously, they used to be games. Now they are more like interactive movies with dorky looking character design)

And also (while it pains me to say it) Resident Evil. Unless Resident Evil goes back to being actual horror games and stop with this 3rd person, over the shoulder nonsense then im not gonna cry if someone puts it to death.

 

[Bre2nan]

It can either go back in history, which cannot work with the established gameplay and will make the fanbase reject it.

You sure?

I for one would think it would be kind of cool to go back through the ages when muskets and flintlock or precussion cap pistols were the staple weapons of military warfare.

Like a game set during the american civil war or the why not the thirty years war in europe? Think beginning of the 1600's and onwards to the early 1800's.

Would be kind of interesting to see how they pull something like that off for a first person shooter (although it would probably include a lot of melee combat as well).

Also World War 1 has been incredibly overlooked in my opinion when it comes to first person shooters. Would be kind of awesome to experience an advance over no mans land under the cover of a creeping barrage and avoiding getting gunned down by machine guns.

I think an earlier-history CoD would be cool too, and it might work with WW1 keeping the established gameplay. However, for earlier time periods, the gameplay would have to go through some massive overhauls, stripping out the run-and-gun spray-and-prey tactics that has been the bread and butter of CoD since #4.

Not all the fanbase will reject it, but most will. Activision is unwilling to lose this portion that has turned CoD in the mega-super-ultra-moneymaker it has become today, so they most likely won't take this route.

A whole new series of games exploring this angle, though, would be interesting.

 

[dangitall]

I think mostly MGS and the Mario games.
I actually like the games, but both franchises started to get way too repetitive and will start to run out of ideas really soon, right now they are just making money recycling old ideas, these series should be cut down when it gets out of hand, no matter what kind of money it makes.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

I think an earlier-history CoD would be cool too, and it might work with WW1 keeping the established gameplay. However, for earlier time periods, the gameplay would have to go through some massive overhauls, stripping out the run-and-gun spray-and-prey tactics that has been the bread and butter of CoD since #4.

Not all the fanbase will reject it, but most will. Activision is unwilling to lose this portion that has turned CoD in the mega-super-ultra-moneymaker it has become today, so they most likely won't take this route.

A whole new series of games exploring this angle, though, would be interesting.

Yeah, I'd think the typical tactics would probably have to be replaced with something else. That doesn't necessarily mean it would have to be a turn off for the fans though.

Imagine that the "spray and pray" got replaced with "shoot and pray" (musketfire worked best in volleys after all and at close ranges since it wasn't too accurate), and imagine the more open battlefield-like missions where you have to time your shots along with the rest of your unit in order to get an effective volley when cannonballs are bouncing around you taking people's heads and legs off like in the movie "The Patriot" (moviecliche´s have been used extensively in the CoD-series so it would be okay this time around as well )

Or how about getting to be part of a cavalry unit of dragoons charging forwards and having to pick up pistol after pistol to fire (since you don't have time to reload them) and stabbing and chopping people with a cutlass or sabre.

I can also imagine some missions being skirmish work where there's basically outright chaos with people running around charging and fleeing at the same time against more organized units, along with a lot of brutal ambushes. Naval missions with a taste of Pirates of the Carribbean wouldn't be out of place either in this time period.

I think though that the gameplay would have a lot more emphasis on manouvering successfully through the dangerous enviroments (like sticking to the least likely path of fire and not getting hit by cannonballs) rather than running for the first cover and spraying bullets in a particular direction. So it would have to incorporate an almost Mirror's Edge like feel for when it comes to movement and manouvering.

It would also be nice if they went with historical accuracy rather than wallowing too much in historical romance about how soldiering was done back in these timeperiods. With entire mercenary armies running around looting and pillaging their way across battlefields, brutality and moral ambiguity would certainly fit the picture.

 

[Tinbust]

sonic, halo, call of duty, tony hawk [insert name here], madden, mlb the show, gears of war, fable and thats about it

why gears of war ? the story isn't tied up
Fable I agree .. Madden you can't kill sports games they need their yearly updae that's what they're for , tony hawks yes allthough I like the games myself, halo and CoD for aforementoned reasons just like final fantasy and metal gear solid

I thought Gears of war 2 was franchise killing, I and a lot of other people don't care about the story its bland, badly written (like my posts ) and i have no emotional ties to the story. I dont care about the characters or any aspect of the story. I think it would be better if they just gut the series and take what works and start over with a different premise. The last tony hawks have been nearly broken and before that they werent big sellers for a long time. maddden doesnt need to come out every year just call the game madden: superbowl champions and update the game every charge ten bucks for the roster update if you want, wait until theres a leap foward in design and technology before you make another sixty us dollars, one.