Franchises you would like to kill

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SovietSecrets

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The reasons here for some games are making me laugh. Mostly the CoD and Halo ones.

OT: Zelda and Mario. Yes they are good games, but I want to see what else Nintendo can think of. I mean they made these two brilliant series and now they just milk them to hell. I am positive they can top themselves and make something even greater.
 

EcHoFiiVe

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Call of Duty. The series has only ever put out two good games in I think what is 8 at this point. I love CoD4 and CoD2, but the series either needs a SERIOUS, probably near impossible facelift, or it just needs to crawl in its grave, that's been dug effectively since World at War, and die.

God of War. Should have ended on the second game. They are just getting greedy, and to be honest the games are stale at this point.

Assassin's Creed. I will stand by it that the original Assassin's Creed was the only good one. Despite all of its criticisms, I will defend my stance on this one proudly with a power drill.

Metal Gear Solid. The game is dead. Snake should be dead at this point. It's dead. D-E-D dead.

Pokemon. Not the games. The games are fantastic. The constant need to put out even more pokemon needs to die. They need to continue on with their remakes, make a revamped version of Ruby and Sapphire, an then after that, come up with new story lines, moves, battle sequences, graphics, but not new pokemon.

World of Warcraft. Not saying the game needs to end. Just the expansions. I think just permanently only having vanilla WoW would be good. If people get bored with it, obviously that's not good fiscally for Blizzard, but their will be others to replace them, and it will greatly lessen the numbers of guys who no longer have girlfriends greatly. Also the game has been going downhill since the first expansion with the exception of Nagrand, because it's the best zone in that entire game. I don't play anymore, but Cataclysm looks like it's suffering a case of CoD Syndrome. Trying to do too much, and as a result making a lousy game.

Mario. For god sake, the original Mario games are literally still making millions of dollars to this day. Nintendo's evil scheme: "Make a new console, port over all of the old Mario games. When they are all ported over and the sales have gone down, rinse and repeat." That is why I hate Nintendo.
 

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Atmos Duality said:
SilverUchiha said:
OT: How many times has a "franchise-killing" post been made? In the past month, at least, I've seen this topic brought up at least three different times! You could have at least added a twist or something to make it more interesting...

-Pokemon: snip

-First Person Shooters in general.
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Oh man. You shouldn't have quoted me and then followed up with these two. Hahaha.

Anyway, Pokemon has actually made significant changes, but they only really show from generation to generation. The story has also become more involved throughout the games as well. Let me ask, what was the last Pokemon game you've played? I suggest reading the articles on "Bulbapedia" on Generation 1, 2, 3, 4, and even the upcoming 5th generation. Generation 5 alone is going to be adding stuff that either (a) should have been around sooner or (b) is a very interesting new idea I'm looking forward too. Pokemon still has a long way to go from being the best thing ever... but to recommend killing the franchise is not something I can agree with. Maybe once a Pokemon is made that is based off toilet paper and the only thing new they're adding is ridiculous names... then I'd say kill it.

As for your FPS comment, you are right in that the vast majority of FPS games out there are very generic pieces of shit that I wouldn't bother playing (Halo, COD, Medal of Honor, etc). I actually tried Halo 1/2 on the PC and, while I found the gameplay superior, it still wasn't nearly as interesting as other FPS games I've played. But there are a handful of unique FPS games that are worth trying and more coming out. Left 4 Dead 1/2, Metroid Prime 1/2 (and maybe 3), Borderlands was good, Painkiller was interesting, and Bulletstorm is coming out soon. There are more, but the FPS genre is great if you know what to look for. (Sadly, it's hard to find the really good ones with all the shit getting all the attention).
 

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SilverUchiha said:
-Pokemon: snip

-First Person Shooters in general.
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Oh man. You shouldn't have quoted me and then followed up with these two. Hahaha.

Anyway, Pokemon has actually made significant changes, but they only really show from generation to generation. The story has also become more involved throughout the games as well. Let me ask, what was the last Pokemon game you've played?
FireRed/LeafGreen and Ruby competitively (well, via RSbot. It was great fun for a text-only game). I admit I'm out of the loop, but my sister and her boyfriend both have their pokewalker enabled Pearl/whatever, and apart from the metagame changes (attack typing being move-specific, something I wish they did long ago) there didn't look like there wasn't shit changed about it.

I suggest reading the articles on "Bulbapedia" on Generation 1, 2, 3, 4, and even the upcoming 5th generation. Generation 5 alone is going to be adding stuff that either (a) should have been around sooner or (b) is a very interesting new idea I'm looking forward too. Pokemon still has a long way to go from being the best thing ever... but to recommend killing the franchise is not something I can agree with. Maybe once a Pokemon is made that is based off toilet paper and the only thing new they're adding is ridiculous names... then I'd say kill it.
Well, the problem is two-fold. It's good to want to come up with new pokes, but the power-creep is inevitably going to kick in when you go to the national dex (because there are, mathmatically, only so many effective/competitive roles/profiles you can make for pokes before they start to blend, destroying their own roles in the process), and I was primarily concerned less with catching and more with the battles.
Pokemon has a shockingly deep and difficult metagame vs human opponents; especially for a game that is marketed squarely at the 7-14 crowd.

As for your FPS comment, you are right in that the vast majority of FPS games out there are very generic pieces of shit that I wouldn't bother playing (Halo, COD, Medal of Honor, etc). I actually tried Halo 1/2 on the PC and, while I found the gameplay superior, it still wasn't nearly as interesting as other FPS games I've played. But there are a handful of unique FPS games that are worth trying and more coming out. Left 4 Dead 1/2, Metroid Prime 1/2 (and maybe 3), Borderlands was good, Painkiller was interesting, and Bulletstorm is coming out soon. There are more, but the FPS genre is great if you know what to look for. (Sadly, it's hard to find the really good ones with all the shit getting all the attention).
Let me clarify; I meant in the last 4-5 years (it's the beginning of a new year, but basically, I refer to everything made since 2006). Apart from Bulletstorm (obviously), I've played or own every title you've named, and with the exception of Borderlands (which is pretty good, but it became tedious real fast), I agree that all of them are great shooters.

My problem is that shooters have routinely gone the exploitation route.
Boom fiestas like Gears of War and Black Ops are good for a rental, but that's it. Multiplayer is routinely hit with the Douche-Ray, so I don't bother with that at all now, and that's really the main selling point behind these titles.
 

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Let's kill Final Fantasy. I don't care that there were some classics in the franchise, it's dead and buried.

13 was a fiasco and god damn awful, 14 is terrible beyond belief and the company hasn't made a competent game was wasn't a rehash in YEARS.
 

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For Halo, only the Spartans should be done. If Bungie got on board, I'd be up for a Covenant game, where you play during their creation or civil wars.

Silent Hill and Resident Evil can pass away, we have RE4 and SH2 to keep playing, stop making more and ruining the legacy

Most games write themselves into holes and they write while falling through the holes...it's just so...depressing
 

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CoD: Proving that multiplayer is about nothing but being the cheapest prick since 2001

Seriously, it needs to die, needs to die soon, and needs to never come back. Nobody actually likes the game, but they buy it because "everyone else is playing it".
 

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I love my Halo but I am happy that Bungie is off trying something different. 343 is on thin ice for me. After they release their next installment I can make a decision on whether I want them to just stop but until they actually make a game I can't judge them yet.

CoD... well... I don't want it to die but... could you just follow Halo's way a bit more and release a big new game every 3 years instead of like every 9 months?

Now it looks like Halo is gonna be more like CoD's release schedule with Microsoft in complete control of it coming out with a new one every year.

Honestly there are no game series that I see no possible way of returning to a better form. Assuming they are even in bad shape to begin with. I haven't played a Mario game that I didn't like and Sonic can do 3d well like in Sonic Adventure. It's getting overloaded with characters right now but I think the Sonic Adventure 2 era of characters wasn't too much at the time.
 

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CoD. For one reason and one reason only:

NO, YOU DRATTED COWORKER, FOR THE TEN BAZILLIONTH I WILL NOT BUY IT ON YOUR SAY-SO!

Seriously, if your fanboys are so bad that they threaten me if I don't buy your product, it's a hazard to society and needs death.

Sounds like this guy. Be warned, they bite. :p