Fuck the Critics (Sucker Punch Rant)

[Soviet Heavy]

EDIT. I suppose I should Clarify: I am not against their stance on the film, but rather their treatment and vitrol for the audience.

The audio review in the link below is NSFW
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/sucker-punch-audio-review

So anyways, in lieu of Moviebob's great reaction to Sucker Punch, I went searching around for alternative reviews. And wow, what a shitstorm of hate I found. I'm not against people disliking films, but it does get personal when they start insulting people.

In this case, the reviewers at Spill.com, a group I generally like, took pretty much half their review to tear the shit out of an outdated view of a 90's era 13 year old nerd. And that just pisses me off.

Give us YOUR opinion on the film critics, but don't think that your job entitles you to label the audience as poor saps who blindly follow your word or that of the film industry. More people than you think might watch movies because, god forbid, they might actually want to see them on their own volition.

It is throwaway insults and spite that critics have for the audience that shows just how big the divide is nowadays between reviewers and watchers. Anything "new" in Hollywood is deemed garbage by the old guard critics who haven't been impressed with anything for the past forty years unless it panders to them. Irony much?


For the record, no, I have not yet seen Sucker Punch. But I intend to on my own free will. I don't need bigoted critics or manipulative studios telling me what I want to do with my money.

 

[Just_A_Glitch]

They're critics.

It is their job to tell people whether or not they think someone should go see a film. If that's how they felt when watching it, who are you to judge them?

Just go see the film and not care about what they think. I did. I loved it. Its visually stunning with an amazing sountrack, and the story is good enough. Plus, its hot.

However, it isn't a film for everyone. Most critics will reflect that in their reviews. All of the ones I've read after seeing it have.

Don't get to bent out of shape just because a few critics didn't find it all that appealing. Go see the movie regardless and make up your mind then.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

They're critics.

It is their job to tell people whether or not they think someone should go see a film. If that's how they felt when watching it, who are you to judge them?

Just go see the film and not care about what they think. I did. I loved it. Its visually stunning with an amazing sountrack, and the story is good enough. Plus, its hot.

Don't get to bent out of shape just because a few critics didn't find it all that appealing. Go see the movie regardless and make up your mind then.

He's not upset because they disliked it, he's upset because they spent the majority of the review insulting the stereotypical teenage nerd.

 

[The Night Shade]

Same here,the critics are to snob so they gurantee to put a low score on certain films just because the way they are,and even with great movies they don't get satisfied

 

[Just_A_Glitch]

They're critics.

It is their job to tell people whether or not they think someone should go see a film. If that's how they felt when watching it, who are you to judge them?

Just go see the film and not care about what they think. I did. I loved it. Its visually stunning with an amazing sountrack, and the story is good enough. Plus, its hot.

Don't get to bent out of shape just because a few critics didn't find it all that appealing. Go see the movie regardless and make up your mind then.

He's not upset because they disliked it, he's upset because they spent the majority of the review insulting the stereotypical teenage nerd.

Maybe that's what they didn't like about it? And maybe they disliked that enough to spend half the review on it?

Though I didn't see that problem in the film, to be honest. But maybe they did. I'd disagree with them, but I wouldn't go on a small rant about how "wrong they obviously are".

I don't know. I'm just having a bad night. If I'm coming off as the douchebag here, I apologize.

 

[Kimarous]

I find it a bit ironic that this rant is indirectly linked to a MovieBob review. He insults various audiences all the time. Yeah, it's pretty rude when reviewers do this, but the bottom line is that EVERY reviewer is biased, has stuff they don't like, and will likely hold people who do like what they don't with disdain. I'm not going to flip off reviewers for the matter because everybody does it. As much as you poopoo the concept, you've probably done the exact same thing before, or at the very least thought it.

 

[emeraldrafael]

ITs my opinoin that critics are all old men who hate the idea of nything different that could be popular and bring in a punch of young people who like new things. Cause those young people could be the next film critics and directors, and then stuff like The Seventh Seal, Citizen Kane, and 12 Angry Men will go the way of old yeller.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Same here,the critics are to snob so they gurantee to put a low score on certain films just because the way they are,and even with great movies they don't get satisfied

For some maybe. But this particular review stung a bit, because I usually agree with the spill.com reviewers. It is especially grating because even they admit to being fanboys and geeks in their other reviews.
It just bothers me that they would insult their own and tell them to grow up, as if they are ones to judge.

 

[The Rascal King]

Spill.com is....different when it comes to movie reviews. I view their criticism as professionally superficial and only exists to provide entertainment. That said, they do provide some laughs....

 

[onikaze26]

i agree here, it seems like theres alot of hatred 4 this movie, and i just don't get it, it just seems like nobody's judging it on its own merits, ign made said "its no inception" well no, in fact its nothing like inception, that isn't a bad thing and its kind of stupid to hold it to the same meterstick

 

[Kimarous]

Same here,the critics are to snob so they gurantee to put a low score on certain films just because the way they are,and even with great movies they don't get satisfied

For some maybe. But this particular review stung a bit, because I usually agree with the spill.com reviewers. It is especially grating because even they admit to being fanboys and geeks in their other reviews.
It just bothers me that they would insult their own and tell them to grow up, as if they are ones to judge.

Geeks and fanboys =/= fickle young teenagers. They are not "their own."

Furthermore, to paraphrase MovieBob, there's a difference between geeky films and BAD geeky films. He considered The Expendables and Piranha 3D as part of the same "brainless rollercoaster action movie" genre, slamming the latter while praising the former. He insulted those who liked the former because, in his eyes, it was a poor quality example of the formula. For the folks at Spill, it may have been the same deal.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Same here,the critics are to snob so they gurantee to put a low score on certain films just because the way they are,and even with great movies they don't get satisfied

For some maybe. But this particular review stung a bit, because I usually agree with the spill.com reviewers. It is especially grating because even they admit to being fanboys and geeks in their other reviews.
It just bothers me that they would insult their own and tell them to grow up, as if they are ones to judge.

Geeks and fanboys =/= fickle young teenagers. They are not "their own."

Furthermore, to paraphrase MovieBob, there's a difference between geeky films and BAD geeky films. He considered The Expendables and Piranha 3D as part of the same "brainless rollercoaster action movie" genre, slamming the latter while praising the former. He insulted those who liked the former because, in his eyes, it was a poor quality example of the formula. For the folks at Spill, it may have been the same deal.

And it irritated me when Moviebob did that as well. I don't agree with Bob on a lot of things, but I am open to hearing others opinions, as long as they don't insult me.

 

[viranimus]

Ehh.. what do you expect really?

Its a film, built to look like an Anime. And while Anime is indeed popular in the US it is not really popular with the widespread film crowd. Its not just anime, its anything built with at least the perception of a younger audience in mind. Sort of the same way it took 1 mans death and 6 previous films for anyone(within that crowd) to consider Batman an oscar worthy film.

Youve got to remember your dealing with a different crowd with films. Critics some of which who can still recall the Golden age of the silver screen. A prime example of this is Roger Ebert, and his stance on video games. He obviously does not get it, they arent his thing, and to his trained eye, they look chaotic and disjointed.

Im not saying Suckerpunch is a good or bad film, because, I havent seen it. But just looking at the trailers for it, and having some experience with film study, I couldnt say that I expected much of anything but bad reviews for it.

So.. Ill guess Ill have to smoke before watching it. Thats fine by me.

 

[lovest harding]

Critics, man, critics.

We all just need to remember that it's their opinion. They have the right to compare it to anything and dislike based on anything. Look at their stance objectively. Decide if you think they're being objective. If you don't feel they are, don't trust them.
Outside of that, a review is an opinion. It holds nothing over anybody else, as every opinion is just a viable (or just as pointless, depending on how you look at it).

That's just how I see critics and professional reviewers.

 

[Fr]anc[is]

Reviewers are people too, they have their share of trolls just like us. But they are paid to give their opinions, so naturally others will disagree. I find Bob's constant praise of Scott Pilgrim to be obnoxious (Microsoft Sam emotes more than that talentless cardboard cutout Cera), but normally he's pretty civil so I like him. I still end up doing what I want no matter what anyone says. And come on, there's a giant dude in samurai armor with a minigun. That's straight out of FO3 kinda stuff

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Ehh.. what do you expect really?

I understand the ignorance of old guard critics, but it is the Spill guys that bother me, since this seems like something they'd like. But they just attack their rather narrow perception of what this film's audience will be.

 

[onikaze26]

I'm hearing a lot of Anime references and yah, that's all over the visuals (viranimus gets a pass obviously cause that's all he's seen) but the thing is that doesnt touch the story at all, its nothing like your average anime,

 

[Soviet Heavy]

anc[is]Reviewers are people too, they have their share of trolls just like us. But they are paid to give their opinions, so naturally others will disagree. I find Bob's constant praise of Scott Pilgrim to be obnoxious (Microsoft Sam emotes more than that talentless cardboard cutout Cera), but normally he's pretty civil so I like him. I still end up doing what I want no matter what anyone says. And come on, there's a giant dude in samurai armor with a minigun. That's straight out of FO3 kinda stuff

Again, I am not arguing their stance on the film, but I am arguing their stance on the audience, where they are just being rude.

 

[Kimarous]

And it irritated me when Moviebob did that as well. I don't agree with Bob on a lot of things, but I am open to hearing others opinions, as long as they don't insult me.

So basically, this entire thread boils down to you having a pout over people saying mean words at people you identify with?