Fun, remember that? Fun?

[SilverUchiha]

Sound weird, but I play single player seriously and then I do multiplayer for fun. I dunno, I guess I get wrapped up in the story or character that I feel I have to take it seriously while, in multiplayer, I can have fun with friends and what not. That's just me anyway.

 

[Potato21]

TF2 has been entertaining me since release, since if it ever gets too serious, go for a heavy rush....with fists only...and somehow we won...

SCII is also a lot of fun, it can get intense but then you can blow off some steam in the custom modes which tend to be a lot more laid back.

Anything I play with friends and we start not being serious in gets really fun too, and often, its so unexpected that if we do it in a MP game we'll win since the other team isnt expecting it, such as one round of arena in TF2 where we all went Highlander demos, enemy didnt see it coming

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

-Ker massive snip-

Thats good for you! Don't let other people get you down. Sometimes people need to remember that games are generally played for fun not to win. Winning is just a bonus of playing well. So long as you are having fun, victory means little.

That being said you lack of interest in how much fun others are feeling is a bit worrying to me. Are you simply not caring if you piss off a couple of people with poles up their asses? Or are you not caring if you selfish behavior is pissing other players off who are also trying to have fun. You don't seem to be trolling or griefing others for you own amusement but remember that other people are trying to play as well. This is multiplayer, you have to at least consider you actions' effects on others.

 

[TimeLord]

Yawn, change the record.

Unhelpful. Any chance of getting your actual opinion?

I can haz serious sam?

Yes, Yes you can.
I knew I had forgotten something! Been playing Serious Sam HD ever since it was on Steam sale and loving it!

 

[Nedoras]

I've had fun playing all of the games that I own. However, I got the most fun out of a few select games: The Legacy of Kain series, the Ratchet and Clank series, the original Spyro the Dragon games, the Time Splitters games, Brave Fencer Musashi, the Metal Gear Solid series, and Fallout Tactics.

 

[Layzor]

If you aren't having fun playing games then maybe they just aren't for you.

 

[Zhukov]

...but nothing can stop me playing like this as a game isn't supposed to be about caring what other people think or how they enjoy the game.

It is how I enjoy the game, and nothing else should matter to me if I am having fun!

That is what bothers me about (mainly) multiplayers these days. Everybody is talking about "balance", "unfairness", "noobtubes" and "knives" but the fact is you play a multiplayer to have fun first and win second.

And if I have to get a few people riled up to have fun in a game I am playing and winning! Then so be it.

So... in other words, it's a good to have fun by ruining other people's fun?

Uh huh.

It's people like you that make me hate online games.

 

[Zhukov]

EDIT: Double post. Hooray for glitchy forums.

 

[KnowYourOnion]

Why does nobody have fun on games anymore? Specifically multiplayers.

I am currently running around a game of MW2 Online with an M16 w/ Grenade Launcher, One Man Army, Danger Close and Commando; and you know what? For the first time since I bought the damn game I actually realised I am having fun! The only other games I have ever played where I have had genuine fun are any Ratchet and Clank game, TF2 and a PS2 game called Black (look it up)!



It is how I enjoy the game, and nothing else should matter to me if I am having fun!

That is what bothers me about (mainly) multiplayers these days. Everybody is talking about "balance", "unfairness", "noobtubes" and "knives" but the fact is you play a multiplayer to have fun first and win second.

So what you're saying really is "Fuck everybody else having fun this is all about me". Most of the fun comes from playing a well-balanced game where people don't resort to cheap exploits and tactics to win.

This is the kind of attitude that completely ruins multiplayer games, its about everyone having fun not just one person.

 

[TimeLord]

...but nothing can stop me playing like this as a game isn't supposed to be about caring what other people think or how they enjoy the game.

It is how I enjoy the game, and nothing else should matter to me if I am having fun!

That is what bothers me about (mainly) multiplayers these days. Everybody is talking about "balance", "unfairness", "noobtubes" and "knives" but the fact is you play a multiplayer to have fun first and win second.

And if I have to get a few people riled up to have fun in a game I am playing and winning! Then so be it.

So... in other words, it's a good to have fun by ruining other people's fun?

Uh huh.

It's people like you that make me hate online games.

Why does nobody have fun on games anymore? Specifically multiplayers.

I am currently running around a game of MW2 Online with an M16 w/ Grenade Launcher, One Man Army, Danger Close and Commando; and you know what? For the first time since I bought the damn game I actually realised I am having fun! The only other games I have ever played where I have had genuine fun are any Ratchet and Clank game, TF2 and a PS2 game called Black (look it up)!



It is how I enjoy the game, and nothing else should matter to me if I am having fun!

That is what bothers me about (mainly) multiplayers these days. Everybody is talking about "balance", "unfairness", "noobtubes" and "knives" but the fact is you play a multiplayer to have fun first and win second.

So what you're saying really is "Fuck everybody else having fun this is all about me". Most of the fun comes from playing a well-balanced game where people don't resort to cheap exploits and tactics to win.

This is the kind of attitude that completely ruins multiplayer games, its about everyone having fun not just one person.

So you are both telling me that you would sacrifice your own fun to keep everyone else happy?

I'm not saying it's fun to piss people off in a game, I'm saying if having fun in a game 'happens' to annoy someone in the game then I am not going to loose any sleep over it.

And anyway, you make it sound like I am cheating or hacking. I am using what is on the game to it's potential. Nothing more.

So TC's point is that the most important thing is to have fun, even at the expense of other people's fun.

Right.

If you don't value yourself more than other's you're living life wrong. You are you, you should be the most important to you.

YES! A thousand times yes! This is a great example of what I am trying to get across!

 

[DSK-]

I can only have fun in multiplayer by beating people and winning. That is my objective and that is how I have fun. I am also a teamwork whore by nature, and I get a kick out of being part of a team.

However the likes of MW2 don't depend a great deal on teamwork and do not promote it. The ways of the old DM FPS' like UT and Quake seem as though they are dying. And that really upsets me.

 

[Zhukov]

So you are both telling me that you would sacrifice your own fun to keep everyone else happy?

Not quite. There is a happy medium to be reached here.

A fun and well designed multiplayer game (that is to say, not MW2) being played by fun people (that is to say, not you) should deliver fun for everyone involved, not just the winners.

In a good game, it is as fun, or almost as fun, to lose as it is to win.

And anyway, you make it sound like I am cheating or hacking. I am using what is on the game to it's potential. Nothing more.

You are exploiting a flawed design.

By your logic, people who "boost" in MW2 are not cheating. They are "using what is on the game to it's potential".

 

[Pearwood]

To some people the fun comes from competing and playing to win.

 

[KnowYourOnion]

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I'm not saying you shouldn't enjoy yourself! That's just wilfully misconstruing what I wrote. All I said was that at no point should you having fun ruin the game for everyone else.
I wouldn't go as far as to say you were cheating but those tactics are hideous, they don't give people a fair chance to fight back.

By your logic of " it's there so I should do it" I should be out smashing windows with a crowbar because it's "fun" for me.

That stuff about "you should always come first" is a load of bollocks.
Yes have fun and don't completely nerf yourself but at least empathise with other people and how they feel about what you're doing!

EDIT: and yeah I would sacrifice SOME of my own fun if it meant that everyone else also had fun.

 

[obliviondoll]

I didn't get much playtime on Black, and I had a friend telling me it was awful (it was his copy I played). Biased me when he kept pointing out all the glitches and stuff while I was playing it.

What I like about Black in spite of that experience though, sums up all you need to know about the game. I now quote the game's developers when I say "Hollywood-based physics engine".

Another vote for Red Faction: Guerrilla and Prototype as fun games. And one more for Mirror's Edge while I'm at it. I also rather like Afro Samurai. When it's not throwing cheap and nasty boss fights at you. The boss fights in Prototype were its weakest point as well.

As for multiplayer, honestly, Warhawk was good, but I was terrible at it, and joined late, so I got slaughtered pretty fast by almost everyone. War for Cybertron was great, but now that they've released purchasable DLC maps but not altered the matchmaking to compensate, and there's still host migration issues they're doing nothing about, I don't play it any more. Gone back to Red Faction: Guerrilla or not bothering with MP lately. I don't play multiplayer that often, honestly, but I usually quite enjoy it when I do.

Also, in a game, if I get called noob in a game, or accused of cheap tactics, I'll think seriously about whether what I'm doing is fair or not, and stop if I don't think it is.

Of course, the only recent example of someone complaining about me in MP that I can come up with is in Resistance: Fall of Man. And that was from a guy who basically said using the Bullseye tags is unfair. In-game, he was constantly saying "Tagger noob" to everyone who used the Bullseye against him.

When he sent me a message telling me to lower my aiming sensitivity so I didn't need to use tags, I convinced him to join me in a couple of private matches.

The first of these games I demonstrated that he's crap at the game by slaughtering (10-0) with carbines only and no grenades. He called me a hacker, but I persevered, and convinced him to try my second private match.

This one was Bullseye only, and I taught him about why tags are useful. The first thing was to stand us both at opposite ends of a large room, and have him try to kill me without tagging me. So few of his shots were hitting that I literally regenerated to full health between shots. When I was tagged, I died quickly, especially if he tagged my head. Next step was to have him tag me and start firing as I ran around the corner, to show him another reason to use them. Finally, I taught him how to use tags on someone ducking behind low cover.

Then I killed him with a tag bomb and told him to google it instead of explaining, and he started calling me a hacker again.

It was fun.