Furry Morality Question

[JoshuaMadoc]

People are defined by their actions, not by their features. In the event that mass genetic experimentation and mutations become the norm, people will still act as they will.

People who take the magic pill/shot/gene bath won't change their personal opinions or morals because of it. People will go on with their lives, people will spout love and hate, and life will go on.

If we're going to get really technical, some people would be stupid enough to convince themselves that they somehow have to act psycho because of radical changes. I forget what the word is, but the chances of that happening actually aren't too far off if on a case-by-case basis.

 

[Vidi Kitty]

"My Daddy is smarter than Einstein! Stronger than Hercules! And lights a fire with the 'snap' of his finger! Are you better than my Daddy, mister? Not if you don't visit the Gatherer's Garden, you're not! Smart Daddies get spliced at the Garden!"

Let's just hope it doesn't become as pedantic as that, or I'll get bored with my splicer powers really fast. Especially that one power that lets me redirect the security system. MAN that one was pointless. ^^;

HA just don't get too spliced up.

Yes. It would be Lion King.

You win everything forever.

 

[CptJackRabbit]

I have seen enough to form my own opinions. And I think the furry community could do better by opening discourse rather than claim racism or other silly things.

Agreed, but would we most likely get the same in return? Somehow, I doubt it.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Le snip

Thank you. You have had the most adult reaction of anyone to anything I have ever said.

Not sure what you snipped, but your welcome. I am not tolerant of sheer ignorance, either side of the fence. Many furs get persecuted seriously for no reason other than being furs, and some because they want fox on dragon loving. On the flip side, some people do not like furs, but understand its a choice or lifestyle, and leave it at that. There have been many a time when I wanted to find a fur arguing and ***** smack them, and say "You know, you aren't really helping our case."

I was refering to the fact that you were saying that I was an "informed hater". I am that. I hate a lot of things.

You seem to be one of the few who wants to hold others to account, and for that I applaud you.

I have seen enough to form my own opinions. And I think the furry community could do better by opening discourse rather than claim racism or other silly things.

Agreed, but would we most likely get the same in return? Somehow, I doubt it.

I think you would. There are some who hate just to hate.
But there are those like me who have a legitimate grevence with the whole "furry" thing. Talking about it civialy will get better results than "OMG Fursicution!11"

However, when I see stupid like this

Why should I take it and insult one of gods(or natures depending on your belief) creations?

Well if you believe in god, then god gave us the ability to do this, so how could it be wrong?

I must respond.



Right. If we can do it, it cannot be wrong.

You know what god also gave me the ability to do? Hate furries.
So how can it be wrong.

 

[KimonoBoxFox]

"My Daddy is smarter than Einstein! Stronger than Hercules! And lights a fire with the 'snap' of his finger! Are you better than my Daddy, mister? Not if you don't visit the Gatherer's Garden, you're not! Smart Daddies get spliced at the Garden!"

Let's just hope it doesn't become as pedantic as that, or I'll get bored with my splicer powers really fast. Especially that one power that lets me redirect the security system. MAN that one was pointless. ^^;

HA just don't get too spliced up.

A Smart Splicer is a Happy Splicer! ;D

 

[SodaDew]

Why should I take it and insult one of gods(or natures depending on your belief) creations?

Well if you believe in god, then god gave us the ability to do this, so how could it be wrong?

hmm good point, I guess if a bunch of people i knew did it I probably would too, but if I was the only one I wouldn't. I'm also somewhat freaked out by furry art too... It would be a VERY hard choice after putting all this together xD

 

[Madara XIII]

On my way home today I had thought pop into my head. It has to do with furries but its not nessesarily restricted to them. Here goes.

Alright so a research company comes up with a serum and releases it this year. The company itself is not important, the serum itself is not important. If you have to ask, the company made the serum for the betterment of humanity.

What the serum does is improve your mental and physical prowess above that of a normal human. However, we're being realistic here. Your not Captian America, but the average serum user is equal in brains to a smart human. A genius user will always be smarter than a genius non-user. If you have never been able to lift a car, well now you can alibet only a foot or two. You can work longer, harder, faster, better, and stronger.

However, the serum does this by combining animal traits with human traits producing animal-human hybrids, the aforemention furry part. Using the serum turns you into a furry (assuming there are multiple types of serums for people who want a specific hybrid, one for a fox-human, wolf-human, etc...)

Obviously the person who uses it is going to face a lot of social problems, discrimination prominently. Honestly, I'd do it. Discrimination be damned I'd probably be smarter than all my co-workers, score one promotion for me.

Dude! I could be a real-life version of Reptile from Mortal Kombat! Hell yes!!!
Hmmm maybe if they had the DNA from a Raptor then I'd definitely go for it.

 

[conflictofinterests]

So if I were to take... say Hamlet and write in that he had a tail and ears and so did everyone else to varying degrees... It would still be Hamlet?

That's probably a bad example because yeah it would be. The main thing in a play is the actions, and just changing a few minor features isn't going to alter that. However one could argue with that example that changing them to furry-ish creatures doesn't change the characters at all, which is more on the actual original topic.

Also Captcha is referent vingen. Sounds like a game title to me :U

Exactly my point. People are defined by their actions, not by their features. In the event that mass genetic experimentation and mutations become the norm, people will still act as they will.

People who take the magic pill/shot/gene bath won't change their personal opinions or morals because of it. People will go on with their lives, people will spout love and hate, and life will go on.

People are also defined by their features, insomuch as their features dictate how the world treats them. Something as simple as gender is enforced AT BIRTH with different colored knit caps, and reinforced throughout one's lifetime by what toys one gets, what clothes, what colors, what TV shows... A person (and their features) does not exist in a vacuum; they are a product of both their genetics and their culture. A believable character reflects this. So, while if Hamlet were a talking lion in a world full of talking lions, he would remain about as believable, but if Hamlet were a talking lion in a world where there were regular humans he would loose a huge amount of credibility.

 

[Vidi Kitty]

I don't know. But I am sure you have the answer and lecture for me, so let's hear it!

Answer: You sorta just flipped a ***** in a busy intersection...

Lecture: Yes.


May have gotten those backwards...

I will concede one thing: not all art of anthromorphic animals is perverse.
I just see it so applied.
I enjoy anthromorpic characters as a normal person does. Chewbacca is just a cool character. Not an idol of sexual affection.

I have seen enough to form my own opinions. And I think the furry community could do better by opening discourse rather than claim racism or other silly things. If my view is that furries are thin-skinned perverts, who will defend their fetish to the last drop of blood, this sort of thing won't change my mind.

I only called that guy out on being a racist because he was going on about how suddenly being part human part something was 'subhuman' and perverse and he would treat them like the animals that they were. That is totally racist. However racist isn't the right term for someone who doesn't understand an idea and spouts hate about it out of willful ignorance, and I admit I used it for that.

 

[Madara XIII]

This is falling apart VERY FAST. Its barely an hour and were at page 6 with squibblings about racism and 'i are not a troll/furry/pervert'. Honestly, why was this topic started.

*stabs self with Dolphin enhancement needle.*

Ohh yeahh baby, that's the stuff.

Hmm due to some studies I've read, it says here that Dolphins are prone to "douchebaggery" such as killing sharks for nor reason what so ever.

Dolphins are the official Frat-Boys of the sea

 

[KimonoBoxFox]

Personally, I think the whole concept of human > animal needs a bit more rethinking.

I mean, yeah we can create atomic war and spy on people from orbit via satellites, but is that really a sign of our superiority, or just our advancement in ways we can screw one another over?

I mean, it is amazing, but no more amazing than animals being able to view the infrared spectrum, or run on water, or secrete venom, or regenerate entire limbs. We may have learned to make incredible things, but let's face it...

We sure haven't figured our way around a A.) A an atom bomb, or B. ) A bible... or C.) A cheeseburger... (insert obligatory meme)

 

[JoshuaMadoc]

This is falling apart VERY FAST. Its barely an hour and were at page 6 with squibblings about racism and 'i are not a troll/furry/pervert'. Honestly, why was this topic started.

*stabs self with Dolphin enhancement needle.*

Ohh yeahh baby, that's the stuff.

Hmm due to some studies I've read, it says here that Dolphins are prone to "douchebaggery" such as killing sharks for nor reason what so ever.

Dolphins are the official Frat-Boys of the sea

And there you have it. Sharks are really misunderstood Conan The Barbarians of the sea, and the dolphins are the Junk Raiders of the sea.

 

[conflictofinterests]

This is falling apart VERY FAST. Its barely an hour and were at page 6 with squibblings about racism and 'i are not a troll/furry/pervert'. Honestly, why was this topic started.

*stabs self with Dolphin enhancement needle.*

Ohh yeahh baby, that's the stuff.

Hmm due to some studies I've read, it says here that Dolphins are prone to "douchebaggery" such as killing sharks for nor reason what so ever.

Dolphins are the official Frat-Boys of the sea

Don't forget raping other dolphins in the blow-hole... Or raping most anything for that matter.

 

[Madara XIII]

This is falling apart VERY FAST. Its barely an hour and were at page 6 with squibblings about racism and 'i are not a troll/furry/pervert'. Honestly, why was this topic started.

*stabs self with Dolphin enhancement needle.*

Ohh yeahh baby, that's the stuff.

Hmm due to some studies I've read, it says here that Dolphins are prone to "douchebaggery" such as killing sharks for nor reason what so ever.

Dolphins are the official Frat-Boys of the sea

Don't forget raping other dolphins in the blow-hole... Or raping most anything for that matter.

Yeeeeeeeeah >_> I wasn't too sure of that and thought that was a rumor....dear God Dolphins are evil

Makes me wonder how the movie Flipper would have turned out had Flipper been the villain.....OH GOD That poor woman!!

 

[Vidi Kitty]

Personally, I think the whole concept of human > animal needs a bit more rethinking.

I mean, yeah we can create atomic war and spy on people from orbit via satellites, but is that really a sign of our superiority, or just our advancement in ways we can screw one another over?

I mean, it is amazing, but no more amazing than animals being able to view the infrared spectrum, or run on water, or secrete venom, or regenerate entire limbs. We may have learned to make incredible things, but let's face it...

We sure haven't figured our way around a A.) A an atom bomb, or B. ) A bible... or C.) A cheeseburger... (insert obligatory meme)

Human evolution has almost halted. We hit the tools phase and then stopped working on ourselves in favor of manipulating our environment and constantly striving to find the right tool for the job. I think all the movies about thousands of years into the future are a fairly accurate portrayal of how people will look then. Exactly the same...

 

[Mechsoap]

Properly many others would use to serum, so it doesn't really matter what other think of it.

 

[KimonoBoxFox]

Human evolution has almost halted. We hit the tools phase and then stopped working on ourselves in favor of manipulating our environment and constantly striving to find the right tool for the job. I think all the movies about thousands of years into the future are a fairly accurate portrayal of how people will look then. Exactly the same...

Exactly the same, except the part where we all look like the humans from Wall-E. ^^;

 

[NathLines]

Depends on what animal traits I get. Do I actually get fur? Then fuck no. I'm hairy as it is. I have no problem with ears, eyes and tails though.

 

[Nightshard]

Of course. We already play with genetics as is, I don't see the big deal in adapting new traits if they work. But are they really necessary for our needs as a species?
I do wonder what would happen to the course of human evolution if societies get into genetic manipulation to this extent; generally, evolution would occur as a result of ecological pressures favoring useful traits while the less useful ones die out. What would it mean to have control over that sort of adaptability? I can't wait to find out, to be honest.
Frankly, aside from stirring up trouble (intentional or not), I'm not sure why you had to bring furries into it in the first place. But since it was asked, yeah. We're all animals anyway, I don't really care one way or another if someone decides to make themselves more of one on the outside. I'd do it too, in a heartbeat, especially if it meant making my life easier.

 

[Vidi Kitty]

Human evolution has almost halted. We hit the tools phase and then stopped working on ourselves in favor of manipulating our environment and constantly striving to find the right tool for the job. I think all the movies about thousands of years into the future are a fairly accurate portrayal of how people will look then. Exactly the same...

Exactly the same, except the part where we all look like the humans from Wall-E. ^^;

Gah if that happens I'm going to go swimming in a vat of that serum, and then kill myself if I just end up like puss 'n boots from shrek 4 D: