Furry Morality Question

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Brownie101

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Well, it's not like I'm not already facing a whole host of social problems. And sort-superhuman abilities? Hell yes. And I think I'll fnish with
I agree with Dragnridr3. First reply. I agree with all the points stated in it.
 

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OVERTHROW THE BEASTIALS

ninja'd if this does come to pass maybe we can finally find out what happens after the cliff hanger
 

AdamRBi

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No, basically because in my over-whatifrical mind I'd be asking myself what the downfall, the catch, or the side effects are to this drug beyond it's furriness.

I imagine that instincts and basic animalistic urges would heighten as well, leading to territorial wars and a loss of organized society without some construct of alpha males ruling over prides or packs. Could also lead to a loss of ingenuity, which is tied to but not exclusive to intelligence. Without ingenuity you lose creativity and end up a work horse, being able to solve equations and life heavy objects but not so good at being inventiveNot to mention that by exploiting the new, heightened animalistic urges of the Furs, non-users may easily be able to manipulate them into doing the grunt work thus creating class systems where the Humans are on top and the Furs are near bottom., which is integral to my line of work so...

Nope.
 

ChocoFace

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I'd do it if it came with a monkey's tail strong enough to let me swing on branches.

It's probably not possible though to just take some serum for this drastic a change.
If it does work, and you develop a fetish for some animal, who's to know what else kind of change it would probably involve?
We'd basically become cavemen. With jobs.

I'm gonna have to pass on this one. (Has mostly to do with me playing sports a lot. A firm believer in fair play.)
 

Mr Smiles

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i have to say, i doubt that in any sort of stable world this sort of thing would ever get invented, and in the envent that they did find a way of making it and not having your heart give out, i really doubt they would release it for human use until the sorted out the "furi" thing... seriously, wtf?

and it would be easier if they found a way to increase muscle density, basically, an instant body buff, this would work without killing your hear as well as it is also a muscle, so it would have the capacity to pump blood to all your new cells, and it wouldnt require "furyness" as all it would need would be a theoretical stimulant that encourages specific cell mitosis, the trouble would be stoping it from giving you cancer
 

WolfThomas

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Easy I'd take the serum for the powers, but I'd choose a gorilla gene type. I'd probably be pretty ugly, but if I shaved every day I'd pass for human.
 

The Apothecarry

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PURGE THE UNCLEAN IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR!..now that I've gotten that out of my system, I'd probably think hard about it but never go through with it. I've never really cared about my physical appearance anyway, though I can see how having a fur coat and inhuman features would make getting a job difficult.

I've had similar thoughts about tattoos. As cool as a tattoo matching Revy's would look, I think about the procedure and it remains little more than a nice wish.

I'd just have one question: What animalistic hybrid would I end up being?
 

Mr Smiles

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The Apothecarry said:
PURGE THE UNCLEAN IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR!..now that I've gotten that out of my system, I'd probably think hard about it but never go through with it. I've never really cared about my physical appearance anyway, though I can see how having a fur coat and inhuman features would make getting a job difficult.

I've had similar thoughts about tattoos. As cool as a tattoo matching Revy's would look, I think about the procedure and it remains little more than a nice wish.

I'd just have one question: What animalistic hybrid would I end up being?
fish? >:p
 

Ladette

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So I could be a cat girl with above human abilites? I'm not seeing a downside here.

Somehwere between Tigra and Felicia would be perfect.
 

magicmonkeybars

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Wow, I can make a really racist comment right now but I won't...

Is the moral question, "is it alright to make people into furries for the betterment of mankind ?" then no it's not okay.
Turning people into human animal hybrids kind of removes them from the human species wouldn't it ?
We might as well create autonomous robots and let them inhabit our planet in our stead.
And what of the conflict it would cause, wars fought over ever scarcer resources with plain none furry humans as the losers.
I can see people being forced to take the serum because it would make them better and forcing them to pay for the serum through slave labour.

But worse of all would be the people who start harrassing you because they're human furry lovers, touching your tail, petting your fur, groping your ears and not being able to rip them apart with your claws.
I'm just saying, being a furry might make you a magnet for fat nerdy zoophiles who will follow you home.
 

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AdamRBi said:
No, basically because in my over-whatifrical mind I'd be asking myself what the downfall, the catch, or the side effects are to this drug beyond it's furriness.

I imagine that instincts and basic animalistic urges would heighten as well, leading to territorial wars and a loss of organized society without some construct of alpha males ruling over prides or packs. Could also lead to a loss of ingenuity, which is tied to but not exclusive to intelligence. Without ingenuity you lose creativity and end up a work horse, being able to solve equations and life heavy objects but not so good at being inventiveNot to mention that by exploiting the new, heightened animalistic urges of the Furs, non-users may easily be able to manipulate them into doing the grunt work thus creating class systems where the Humans are on top and the Furs are near bottom., which is integral to my line of work so...

Nope.
Well thats assuming that humans don't have any of this already I have you forgotten that we are animals already, just another group of mammals. We have alpha males, our presidents, kings, queens, prime ministers.

Also not all animasl follow the same social patterns. Meerkats have a rather socialist group structure. Wolves tend to live alone and sometimes group in packs for a time. Most human behaviour is due to society and upbrining. Humans have the potential for language, doesn't mean we will learn it though.

The idea of human-animal hybrids has been floating around for a while now (Focus did a article on this about a year ago at least) and there are some cases of people acting on these theories (key gorrila penis replacements for men)


Bottom line: Who wouldn't want to be Hank Mccoy (a.k.a Beast) the blue furred genius (we also happens to be preety popular with the ladies post furrifaction).
 

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Why do you think the moral issue is with the furry bit?

This just takes class issues and makes them worse by literally making those with more money more powerful. It's basically transhumanism without giving a shit about furthering mankind as one group. I'd take the serum - if it was given to people freely, or at a cost that is affordable by all.
 

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First of all, let me answer this simple question with a simple answer: Yes. I would take that serum. EVERY. DAMN. TIME. The ability to gain more knowledge and strength than damn near everyone is a skill that when given to most anyone, they would take it. Having more knowledge and strength than everyone means you are unstoppable, and unbeatable. No matter what side effect, you would simply be able to find a reversal to the effect using your now vast limits of knowledge. No matter what, more knowledge is better than less knowledge. There would be some inconveniences at first, such as the no appose-able thumbs part, but soon enough, a device would be made either by you or someone else to fix this problem.

Moving on to the second problem I see, is the choice of animal. Some people have been saying if they could become this animal or that animal then yes, they would take the serum. But they haven't really asked "Why CAN'T they make the serum turn me into that type of animal?". If this serum were to exist at all, then they would be able to add the DNA of the animal you would be a hybrid of (I'm going to use a pangolin in the further examples I use, simply because that is the animal I would chose to turn into, due to physical factors about it that would increase chances of survival.). But this leads to the third problem...

That which being how many traits do I get from my animal of choice, and how fast do the changes take to appear? This is the main problem of the serum, that which being the inherited traits. Assuming that the DNA for this serum would be taken from different animals, it would be hard if not near impossible to control the dominant and recessive sex genes.
In every animal, human, fish, what have you there are specific hereditary genes, Dominant and Recessive. For simplicity and correctness in the lesson I will be teaching, I shall use B for Dominant Genes and b for Recessive Genes.

In the semen/sperm of a human there are 13 chromosomes. For a fertile sperm egg to be made, these need to match up in specific ways. When paired, the semen/sperm combo will have 26 chromosomes, enough for the fertile egg to be made and offspring to conceived. Inside of each of these separate pairs of 13 chromosomes, there are genes. These determine everything about you, from height to weight to metabolism to hair and eye color. I'll use eye color in my example, seeing as how it's fairly simple.

In the chromosomes, the Brown eye color is the B and the Blue eye color is b. When two different sets of chromosomes come from two people (Person A's parents traits for eye color were BB and Bb) they make Person A, whose eye color trait is BB, meaning that there are two dominant traits for Brown eye color. Person B (Parents had bb and Bb traits(Person B's eye color traits are Bb) comes and mates with Person A. the chromosome pairings come, and the trait pairing for Child A is and always will be BB. This is due to the fact that both parents passed on one Dominant Trait. If, however, the pairings had been bb and Bb for Child A, the trait will be Bb, where depending on which trait powers out, Child A either has Brown or Blu eyes.

Now I realize I didn't explain this lesson to well, for the sole reason that this is by far one of the most complicated things in science. Essentially, the dominant-recessive trait aspect I talked about above applies to everything, race, gender, your appearance, body shape, all of it. I chose eye color simply because it is the easiest and there are far less possibilities and pairings and combinations to talk about. If I'd chosen any other trait that is chosen by these genes, I'd have had to have written a 10 page article about it. This was simply the easiest way to teach this.
I say it's near impossible because of the fact that we require a high-powered microscope to see chromosomes, and edit them to change their genes they pass on is explicably difficult. While I am absolutely certain it is possible it would cost a lot of money. Over time it would become cheaper, so that problem is eliminated. The problem I see with the genes is that it determines everything, and that means body build, how your limbs form, whether or not you get to keep those nifty thumbs.

In conclusion, yes, I would take the serum, there are some problems that would need to be fixed, but if you took the serum, you would probably be able to have the intelligence to fix them.
 

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Obviously the person who uses it is going to face a lot of social problems, discrimination prominently. Honestly, I'd do it. Discrimination be damned I'd probably be smarter than all my co-workers, score one promotion for me.
They do it on that basis without the serum too, so heck -

lol

OT: Well it depends what the exact side effects are and how useful the serum is overall. I'd just have to judge on full facts ;P
 

Chrono212

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OP is describing a fairly common furry story arc.

Honestly, I'm weird enough as it is and actually they way that OP describes it as being more a sports suplament/enhancer I could see a lot of jocks I know actually taking that.
Meaning being a 'real' furry may actually become mainstream.

Heh, imagaine what the Olympics would look like. :p

(Woo! 300th comment! :D)
 

Mr Smiles

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Chrono212 said:
OP is describing a fairly common furry story arc.

Honestly, I'm weird enough as it is and actually they way that OP describes it as being more a sports suplament/enhancer I could see a lot of jocks I know actually taking that.
Meaning being a 'real' furry may actually become mainstream.

Heh, imagaine what the Olympics would look like. :p
it would likely become a banned substance for the olympics, they dont even let you have a booster of red blood cells, this would be like hacks