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guntotingtomcat

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brainless_fps_player said:
I want:
1. The church of Scientology to be gone.
2. People to stop giving gay people such a hard time.
3. Evolution to be proven, because I want to see the look on the faces of creationists.
4. Anti-matter power
5. Star Trek-esque space travel (FTL, artificial gravity etc)
6. Decent computer games again.
7. The abandonment of money.
8. Free media, as in all films, songs and games ever made to be COMPLETELY free over the internet.
1. Never going to happen.
2. The percentage of the population (US) that gives a shit about sexual preference is surprisingly low already, outside of high school and Alabama.
3. Evolution has already been proven, it has just not been proven that it is the entire basis for all life as we know it, from beginning to now (Admittedly, on a technicality). It is unlikely to be proven 100% (Though admittedly, the doubt would be about 1%>)
4. We'll all be dead LONG before thats even feasible.
5. I'd prefer a jump drive. Seems classier.
6. Already have them now, we just lost the FPS/RPG market.
7. Fuck that. Capitalism all the way.
8. Fuck artist too.[/quote]

1. sigh I know
2. Not really. It is tolerated in the US and countries like it, including mine, which is not the same thing as accepting.
3. Was a non serious comment to get at creationists.
4. They already have it, just not marketable.
5. There is much to be said for your viewpoint
6. I'm struggling to find a game better than SOTC or Croc or Okami. A matter of personal taste, I know.
7. Got a reason behind that viewpoint, or do you just hate those born into poverty.
8. What, you mean the people that produce the entertainment in this world? My theory is if you reward art with something other than money, an award, say, true artists will be just as motivated to produce decent stuff.
 

Fidelias

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I'm just saying, where's my flying car?

And I want spaceships and robots that can shoot laser beams out of their eyes.
 

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brainless_fps_player said:
Sigh, again. Refer to previous responses to see my viewpoint on this.

And I said nothing about a jobless society. Stop projecting.
You did not say jobless society. Your idea, as presented, necessitates one in order for it to succeed in the way that you mean. Otherwise, thing will progress along one of the two paths I expressed in my reply.

A: If it's jobless, and everyone can be full-time artists, the arts could potentially flourish as they do now, but free of monetary constraints that choke current creativity... in theory. Or the market could become so saturated with everyone's crap art that it's just too damned hard to find the good stuff.

B: If it's not jobless, and "artist" is not a job, then art will be exclusively a leisure-time activity. That means that the scope of such projects will be drastically reduced. No more summer blockbusters. But we could have some really great small-scale folk art.

C: If it's not jobless, and "artist" is a job, then the government will essentially play the same role that producers play now in 'squashing' creativity... because these decisions are based on the preferences of the audience, not arbitrary business choices.

It's one of those three. I didn't commit you to any of the three, because you were unclear as to which future you were speaking about. That's why I hedged my bets, presented the three possibilities, and elaborated on the consequences of each. Either way, your Shangri-La just ain't gonna happen.

Oh, and on the "projecting?" You communicated your ideas poorly. That simply means they need some revision. Stop blaming other people for the inadequacy of your presentation and fix it going forward. Getting snippy doesn't make you right, it just makes you wrong and rude.
 

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One of two things:
a) Subjugation of all third world countries by the UN after discovering practical, cost effective solutions to their 'inhospitable and unproductive' climates.
or
b) Arbitrary restrictions on every families procreation level in the first world.
 

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brainless_fps_player said:
AccursedTheory said:
brainless_fps_player said:
I want:
1. The church of Scientology to be gone.
2. People to stop giving gay people such a hard time.
3. Evolution to be proven, because I want to see the look on the faces of creationists.
4. Anti-matter power
5. Star Trek-esque space travel (FTL, artificial gravity etc)
6. Decent computer games again.
7. The abandonment of money.
8. Free media, as in all films, songs and games ever made to be COMPLETELY free over the internet.
1. Never going to happen.
2. The percentage of the population (US) that gives a shit about sexual preference is surprisingly low already, outside of high school and Alabama.
3. Evolution has already been proven, it has just not been proven that it is the entire basis for all life as we know it, from beginning to now (Admittedly, on a technicality). It is unlikely to be proven 100% (Though admittedly, the doubt would be about 1%>)
4. We'll all be dead LONG before thats even feasible.
5. I'd prefer a jump drive. Seems classier.
6. Already have them now, we just lost the FPS/RPG market.
7. Fuck that. Capitalism all the way.
8. Fuck artist too.
1. sigh I know
2. Not really. It is tolerated in the US and countries like it, including mine, which is not the same thing as accepting.
3. Was a non serious comment to get at creationists.
4. They already have it, just not marketable.
5. There is much to be said for your viewpoint
6. I'm struggling to find a game better than SOTC or Croc or Okami. A matter of personal taste, I know.
7. Got a reason behind that viewpoint, or do you just hate those born into poverty.
8. What, you mean the people that produce the entertainment in this world? My theory is if you reward art with something other than money, an award, say, true artists will be just as motivated to produce decent stuff.
2. You watch too much TV. Real people don't give a shit, one way or another. They may not like same sex marriage (Another issue entirely), but the average person just wants gay people to stop parading and get on with it. No one cares anymore.
4. Look up the definition of feasible.
5. I know. Jump Drive>Warp Drive, Mass Cannons over photon weaponry, and no thanks, guy, I'll take the ship down, thanks for the de-atomizing/atomizing offer.
7. Wont get into it here, or today for that matter.
8. If you reward art with something other than money, artist/entertainers starve. Unless you can eat grammys...
 

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EDIT: Anyone else been having a problem wear they can't see their last post until they post it twice? Just started happening a day or two ago.

Also:No more probation! Woot!
 

guntotingtomcat

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Dastardly said:
Oh, and on the "projecting?" You communicated your ideas poorly. That simply means they need some revision. Stop blaming other people for the inadequacy of your presentation and fix it going forward. Getting snippy doesn't make you right, it just makes you wrong and rude.
I'm snippy because I'm on another forum and this list was just a flippant bit of fun for which several people decided they disagreed with.
However, I like a good debate, so I decided to reply to some. Yours came rather late.
So when I said projecting, I mean you missed the point. I don't care how it will be done. I understood this thread to be about wish fulfilment, not thought experiment. The reason I communicated my point poorly was because I didn't really have a point to communicate. For example I don't really want the church of Scientology gone, I just disagree with them but I believe everyone has a right to freedom of thought etc.
The list was just a bit of fun I did in between other threads, I thought.
I've also been asked the same question more than once.
So, I apologise for offending you, and if it helps your options were concise and comprehensive. Thinking about it, I'd go for art being a hobby, the recreation, and the job being some form of civic duty.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
brainless_fps_player said:
AccursedTheory said:
brainless_fps_player said:
I want:
1. The church of Scientology to be gone.
2. People to stop giving gay people such a hard time.
3. Evolution to be proven, because I want to see the look on the faces of creationists.
4. Anti-matter power
5. Star Trek-esque space travel (FTL, artificial gravity etc)
6. Decent computer games again.
7. The abandonment of money.
8. Free media, as in all films, songs and games ever made to be COMPLETELY free over the internet.
1. Never going to happen.
2. The percentage of the population (US) that gives a shit about sexual preference is surprisingly low already, outside of high school and Alabama.
3. Evolution has already been proven, it has just not been proven that it is the entire basis for all life as we know it, from beginning to now (Admittedly, on a technicality). It is unlikely to be proven 100% (Though admittedly, the doubt would be about 1%>)
4. We'll all be dead LONG before thats even feasible.
5. I'd prefer a jump drive. Seems classier.
6. Already have them now, we just lost the FPS/RPG market.
7. Fuck that. Capitalism all the way.
8. Fuck artist too.
1. sigh I know
2. Not really. It is tolerated in the US and countries like it, including mine, which is not the same thing as accepting.
3. Was a non serious comment to get at creationists.
4. They already have it, just not marketable.
5. There is much to be said for your viewpoint
6. I'm struggling to find a game better than SOTC or Croc or Okami. A matter of personal taste, I know.
7. Got a reason behind that viewpoint, or do you just hate those born into poverty.
8. What, you mean the people that produce the entertainment in this world? My theory is if you reward art with something other than money, an award, say, true artists will be just as motivated to produce decent stuff.
2. You watch too much TV. Real people don't give a shit, one way or another. They may not like same sex marriage (Another issue entirely), but the average person just wants gay people to stop parading and get on with it. No one cares anymore.
4. Look up the definition of feasible.
5. I know. Jump Drive>Warp Drive, Mass Cannons over photon weaponry, and no thanks, guy, I'll take the ship down, thanks for the de-atomizing/atomizing offer.
7. Wont get into it here, or today for that matter.
8. If you reward art with something other than money, artist/entertainers starve. Unless you can eat grammys...
2. Not telivision. I know way to many homophobes obviously, but I concede my viewpoint may be narrow.
4. Yeah, sorry about that.
7. Fair 'nuff.
8. In my theoretical future, food is infinite, but as I said to others the reason my points are unclear and under developed is because I didn't expect anyone to take me up on them. I just put down what I thought would be cool.
 

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Mass Effect Tech/ Force fields/ The Force

What ever you wanna call it, Humanity is going nowhere without some kind of New breakthrough way of controlling matter. Think FTL, Low cost orbital deployment, plantery and orbital Superstructure construction; All of that will be impossible till we can manipulate matter at it's base level on the fly.

And to that effect: Let's Get to Fucking Mars, Dig up the Southern Hemisphere, and Find the ancient Prothean Element Zero Cores Already!!
 

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I would be quite pessimitic on this topic. In the next few decades i see major environmental and human crisis due to the overcumsomption, overpopulation ,pollution ect... either leading to a great change in civilisation or the end of civilisation as we know it .Some will survive most will suffer ,but the difference between surviving or falling to this crisis will be decided by our action in the close futur .
 

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Quantum Roberts said:
...The Icarus Windfarm. Essentially a fleet of unmaned, flying windmills...
No offence, but didnt you just say that logic was the cornerstone of this forum? Thats not overly logical. Ok, it would be good if it worked, but realistically, they are pointless; they would either have to use up most of the energy they make to keep them flying, or they would have to have something like nuclear power keeping them in flight (and if you can do that, whats the point in HAVING wind power?)

Also, they would HAVE to be manned. Because gathered and stored energy would have to be collected back on the ground, or (for nuclear power) for the very reason of being kept aloft.

However, the idea is not entirely without redeeming quailities; for instance, if these units were tethered to the ground, they could be used to "harvest" lighting (a bit sci-fi, but not unreasonable). The tethers would have to be long, thick cords of wire (which presents a problem just for BEING long thick cords of wire) and link up to some sort of national grid.

OT: i think that cities will become vastly more sophisticated, and will become far greener places. The organisation (company/corporation really) IBM aims to create smarter, living cities that react to the ways that we use them. They aim to create a connected city that thrives on information, renewable energy, security etc. This can already be seen in the plans for one of my favourite ideas ever: planIT valley city.

For those of you who dont know (or are even still reading), planIT valley city is a concept of a city that will be made in spain somewhere (i lost the article i was reading about it *sadface*). What makes this city so special, is that it uses between 70 to 85 percent of its waste products, each building is fitted with sensors that indicate how much electricity/water etc the building uses, and finally that all the buildings are linked to a centre control point. The city has been analogised using anatomy. The control point is the "brain", advanced cctv are "eyes" that feed back constantly.
As well as these things, each building is capable of creating its own electricty (to a degree), and the tops of each building are planned to be green havens.
All in all, an idea i get excited about.
 

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Jacob Haggarty said:
OT: i think that cities will become vastly more sophisticated, and will become far greener places. The organisation (company/corporation really) IBM aims to create smarter, living cities that react to the ways that we use them. They aim to create a connected city that thrives on information, renewable energy, security etc. This can already be seen in the plans for one of my favourite ideas ever: planIT valley city.

For those of you who dont know (or are even still reading), planIT valley city is a concept of a city that will be made in spain somewhere (i lost the article i was reading about it *sadface*). What makes this city so special, is that it uses between 70 to 85 percent of its waste products, each building is fitted with sensors that indicate how much electricity/water etc the building uses, and finally that all the buildings are linked to a centre control point. The city has been analogised using anatomy. The control point is the "brain", advanced cctv are "eyes" that feed back constantly.
As well as these things, each building is capable of creating its own electricty (to a degree), and the tops of each building are planned to be green havens.
All in all, an idea i get excited about.
Thats... actually a sexy idea.

Go IBM, go!
 

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Assassin Xaero said:
MiracleOfSound said:
I think that by COD 2050 they still won't have removed Second Chance.
No, they will just change it so you fall with triple tactical nuke launchers.
And you will get an RCXD Car at 2 Kills that when exploded releases an army of Megatrons.
 

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The Chinese will own us.
The rich will be the only ones with any education, power or money in England, Greece, Turkey and many other nations.
Groups like Anonymous will morph into public action groups, and eventually topple a government or 2 (movie idea!)
As the pure evil of so many giant corporations is further cast into the public light, several democratic countries will turn to communism.
Either the populace of Russia and her surrounding nations will rise up and kill/jail Putin, or that region will return to tyranny (the latter of which is already happening).
Americans will realize too late that everything, every nation ends at some point.
And assholes like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck will continue to try to justify their racism/sexism/homophobia/xenophobia under the guise of the mythical "common sense."
 

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brainless_fps_player said:
I want:
1. The church of Scientology to be gone.
2. People to stop giving gay people such a hard time.
3. Evolution to be proven, because I want to see the look on the faces of creationists.
4. Anti-matter power
5. Star Trek-esque space travel (FTL, artificial gravity etc)
6. Decent computer games again.
7. The abandonment of money.
8. Free media, as in all films, songs and games ever made to be COMPLETELY free over the internet.
Evolution HAS been proven. I've a relative who works in cystogenesis, wherein they dye dna strands in anaphase (right when they split to reproduce). Diseases are constantly evolving - look at HIV, ebola, staph...these bugs have evolved during our lifetime.
 

funguy2121

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brainless_fps_player said:
Super Toast said:
brainless_fps_player said:
8. Free media, as in all films, songs and games ever made to be COMPLETELY free over the internet.
Effectively destroying the entertainment industry.
Well, you didn't explain your point, but I'll assume that you mean no one will make stuff because there's no money in it.

1. This is a theoretical in a future where money doesn't exist. Chill out.
2. The INDUSTRY is destroying the entertainment industry. Notice how crap stuff makes more than good stuff, with a few very rare exceptions? That's not going to stop. In fact, it will only get worse.
3. People are currently producing arts in all media for prestigious awards that carry no cash prize, and much of that is of better quality than many big budget titles.

Not saying that the industry wouldn't take a blow, but it would be worth it to get rid of the heaps of money making nonsense and to restore the soul to the process, which has become a money making machine.
Apologies to all for being so mouthy today. Wow, spellcheck approved 'mouthy.'

I'd like to focus on 2. It just seems overly cynical, though I've certainly shared that sentiment.

Name some of your favorite songs, movies and TV shows, and I'd wager a great deal of them are from the past decade. There's a shit-ton of, well, shit, to be sure, but in TV and music in particular the suits are trying to go after every single niche so that they'll be involved when the next "big thing" hits. The results? American Idol, Keeping up with the Kardashians, Everybody Loves Raymond and Grey's Anatomy. But also: The Soup, Community, Battlestar Galactica, The West Wing, Sons of Anarchy, Dexter, Lie to Me, How I Met Your Mother, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Family Guy, Futurama (resurrection!), The Boondocks and Chappelle's Show.

I don't want to go back to a time before Magnolia and No Country for Old Men. I don't want to go back to a time before The Yeah Yeah Yeahs and The Black Keys and Kings of Leon and The Mars Volta. And I don't want to go back to a time when the only truly great current sitcom was Seinfeld. Before Hulu (I can't get TV on my TV - long story) and MP3 players.

So, to say "it's not all bad" would be a gross understatement.
 

Bad Jim

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I'd like to see gliders used to carry freight and maybe passengers. They can travel at 300mph without burning fuel! Modern gliders have glide ratios up to 70 to 1, meaning they can travel 70 miles for every mile they fall in still air. Seems like a massive missed opportunity to me.