Game issues you're sick of hearing about

[PinkiePyro]

all the console vs console vs pc stuff lets just all agree we all like different things

People who bash EA but still buy the **** games *headdesk* if you keep buying the ******* games they will have no reason to improve!

half-life 3 JUST SHUT UP ALREADY! I am sick of the whining about it!

 

[Soundwave]

I hate every article on Kotaku, does that count? There's no news there and all their journalists are terrible human beings.

 

[likalaruku]

Graphics. Talk about aesthetics, talk about color pallet, but lay off with "it looks dated." I am in fact SO sick of it that I'm actually CRAVING games with blocky polygons.

Shit-talking about games & consoles that aren't even out yet because one playtester didn't like it & couldn't be assed to wait for the day 1 patch. Lay off the Ouya until it's a year old. As for games, wait a month for a sufficient variety of reviews.

Failure to admit that the awfulness of the game is part of it's charm. Indeed it is better to be godawful than to be mediocre, because we will still talk about the awful ones, which provide an entirely different kind of entertainment, while the mediocre ones are forgotten.

The assumption that people who don't play FPS & multiplayer are not real gamers.

Hating on things because it's popular to do so, then not backing it up with personal experiences.

 

[RicoADF]

The console-pc 'war'. I swear every day each side comes up with another stupid reason why 'they' are better.

I mean, where does that place people like me who favor both?

Good question, do both sides consider us traitors for having both? What happens to me since I have PC, PS3, xbox360 etc etc, are the fanboys going to kill me? *looks over shoulder to see a massive mob with pitchforks*. crud.....

OT: Political correctness gone wild in games, regardless of which one it is. It's one thing to have a legitimate problem, it's another to scream racist due to the colour of the main character, or location it's set in etc. Granted there are some trends needing some serious fumagation, but try to keep it civil shal we?

 

[Reaper195]

Difficulty. "Ooo, they're making a easy mode for Dark Souls." Then don't play it. They're not removing the normal/bullshit difficulty, just giving others an option to actually play the game. "Oooo, this game is too easy." If the difficulty is at the highest, then introduce your own difficulty things. Use only one kind of weapon. Don't quick travel. If you die, restart the entire game. If you want it harder in the base game....well...#dealwithit. Or play some really old games known for being difficult.

 

[Holythirteen]

I hate people saying "ugh I'm sick of hearing it" about what I want to complain about/hear complaints about.

Isn't that something everybody goes through? If somebody complains about ME3's ending, they probably just beat it yesterday and want to vent. The people who complained about it a year ago have moved on to be replaced by others just now joining the conversation, it should start to settle now...

I can't stand X is better than Y threads myself now, but I remember a time way back when I was all over any such thread I could find so I could add my stupid opinions. Now many others have taken my place, it's the circle of life!

The bigger issues are NEVER going to go away, sorry to tell ya. Dig in. I like the sexism debates myself, it's like going to the zoo to watch chimpanzees fling poo and fight, except the zookeepers never come in with tranq guns and ruin it. Oh sure sometimes people try to bring up a reasonable argument, but I just pretend those are the bystanders who got too close to the pen. I read a ton of shit about anita beetlejuice just to see what all the fuss was about, and the best I could come up with was "gamers are kinda crazy", which was the most interesting part about it. Don't be afraid guys, even if the Feminists take control of the gamer command center, they won't take your T&A games away. I promise.

Oh good old EA... I can't wait for the next episode... Tell ya what, I'll shut up when they admit to a mistake, even a little minor one, I'll shut up for like a whole week. But guess what? If you are sick of hearing the same old EA shit, its because that's part of their plan.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/04/22/the-power-of-silence-why-the-simcity-story-went-away/

 

[Nazulu]

When someone declares something as pretentious, I find it as informative as saying a game is bad. Actually explain whats wrong dammit! Go into detail why it doesn't work, don't just expect us to know.

 

[Compatriot Block]

Anyone who say "This game is shit" rather than "I didn't like the game." Or anything similar to that.

I've seen some people with their heads firmly wedged up their ass about how reasonable they are in "debates" on forums, but as soon as there's a game they don't like, it's just "shit." No room for opinion, only insults for a game and therefore anyone who enjoyed it.

A pretty fun game is to click on any thread on the Escapist where a popular mainstream game is being discussed and to count how many times someone posts something like this. Take a shot each time if you don't mind liver poisoning.

 

[Brad Shepard]

Racism and sexism. I'm tired of hearing these all the time in general really. If you are so not victimized by racism/sexism that you don't have enough REAL issues of racism/sexist to fight against and can take the time to raise hell over the perceived racism/sexism in fictional media, your side has pretty much already won the fight.

Fucking this man, im so sick of this crap.

 

[Terramax]

No more sexism threads...please.

Rose tinted nostalgia needs to die! I love my Dreamcast. I play it more often than my Xbox 360. But none of its games would stand up if released today. Hell Sonic Adventure wasn't even a good game when it was released (WORST HUBWORLD EVER!).

I agree with Sonic Adventure. However, I'd say some games on the DC stand up to current offerings. Soul Calibur (or most of the DC fighters) pawns most fighters of today, Under Defeat is better than just about any shmup (so much so, they rereleased it on the PS3 and 360), Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio are still fun and fresh, and Shenmue is still a unique experience worth checking out.

However, I'm not under the impression the console, or its games, are perfect by any means. Just that it's the perfect arcade console. It's horses for courses really. It also depends on what criteria you're judging these games again.

Not all people want to play games where you spend 80% of the time aimlessly walking around barren forests, cities, or wastelands.

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

I get annoyed when people refer to things as 'immersion breaking', without actually thinking about it first.

The worst incident of this I have seen was back in Nov 11 when Skyrim came out, and everyone jumped on the 'it's cool to hate Skyrim' bandwagon... or the 'It's not my kind of game anyway, so I will go out of my way to say why I don't like this installment'. And I saw a thread on here where someone listed all the ways Skyrim 'broke his immersion'.

One of these ways was the graphics. Aparrently they were really shit, and looked like a previous gen consoles efforts. And when pressed, the reason he gave was because when he ran point blank into a wall, the textures went slightly blurry/pixilated and aparrently this made it completely unrealistic and broke his 'immersion'.

We then had a spate of threads all about immersion, which luckily died off, but you still see the point used from time to time.


Now... the issue is the whole term 'immersion'. Immersion is how involved you feel with a game, and how much it sucks you into playing it, and getting into the story/characters/world. Games have had varying levels of immersion throughout the last few decades, with some doing it well and some not so well for a variety of reasons. The biggest reason is story. A gripping story, well thought out and with interesting characters... especially with a bit of flair (or 15 bits of flair minimum) will make a game particulary immersive, and you will overlook bad mechanics to keep playing.

Another way a game can be immersive is by giving you lots of rewards and goals, and keeping you intersted that way. This is seen the most in multiplayer games, where you are constantly working towards the next unlock, or device you can show off.

Things such as game mechanics, or bad character design, even bad voice acting, can detract from this immersion by contsantly pulling you out of your zone, and can overall ruin a games exerience for you. The problem with most people who use it as an arguement, is they use it to make themselves sound clever and like they know what they are talking about, even though the thing they are talking about is really trivial. The thing they don't actually see is that the real reason the immersion was broken is because they were not immersed in the gameplay and story to begin with, and this is not usually the games fault, but the fact that the person playing was expecting the game to fail, or were being over critical and only trying to fault it.

And that is my issue with that arguement...

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Since every issue is a recurring issue, I'm sick of them all. Complaining about DRM, demonizing EA and Ubisoft, Dark Souls dumbing down content, casual gamers vs. hardcore gamers, PC being the master race, nobody liking ME3's ending, the worries about a next console generation, will there or will there not be a gaming crash... what happened to good old fun threads about who's the best sidekick, and the most difficult boss evah?

 

[Korten12]

The console-pc 'war'. I swear every day each side comes up with another stupid reason why 'they' are better.

I mean, where does that place people like me who favor both?

Good question, do both sides consider us traitors for having both? What happens to me since I have PC, PS3, xbox360 etc etc, are the fanboys going to kill me? *looks over shoulder to see a massive mob with pitchforks*. crud.....

OT: Political correctness gone wild in games, regardless of which one it is. It's one thing to have a legitimate problem, it's another to scream racist due to the colour of the main character, or location it's set in etc. Granted there are some trends needing some serious fumagation, but try to keep it civil shal we?

Hybrids are the future.

 

[ObsidianJones_v1legacy]

I don't like to be that guy, but hey... I guess I am

I'll admit, one of my pet peeves is someone or some people keep repeating on an issue over and over till they beat that issue to the ground, and it's nothing but microscopic atoms. One issue is with the upcoming Fuse. You know, that game Insomniac original had called Overstrike, till the drained the color and it's now a more griddier third person co-op game? I'm still looking forward to it, even if it doesn't have the same charm as the original. However, I'm so sick and tired of people STILL being upset and saying stuff like "boo, this game sucks because it doesn't have any color" or "shit, EA stuck again(even though Insomniac said it was there decision, people love to think EA still had something to do)." I get it, EA is evil and Fuse doesn't have any Color. I'm just sick and tired of people already declaring it the worst thing ever. What issue are sick and tired of hearing about in the games industry? Constant Sequels ruining creativity? Mass Effect 3's ending? Sexism?

You're still looking forward to it. And I'm glad for you.

I've seen all of the trailers, all of the gameplay and all of the stupid dev commentary who basically said 'Big shooty guns = fun'

I didn't receive once iota of the excitement or even smiled a little when I saw the new Fuse trailers. It looked like someone took only four weird guns from Borderlands and shoved them into a Gears of War universe.

It's not about EA. It's not about the lack of color. It doesn't look fun to some of us any more. We'll be upset about that. We won't begrudge you your right to be tired of it.

 

[rasputin0009]

- All the EA hate. They're not perfect, but they're not evil.

- "But the next gen consoles won't have backward compatibility" - So freakin' what? Pissed you can't trade in your old system to buy the new one? Tough! I'd rather have a great new console and relocate my old ones to another room.

- "Killing the Used Games Industry" aka Online Passes aka Exclusive Content - Again, so? Developers bust their ass on AAA titles for the same retail price people were paying in the 1980s (which $60 then is like $100 now). I don't blame them for wanting to find a way to where they get paid for their work. I think the Online Pass (where you need a code to get to some of the features) is a good thing, because it allows used games to be sold, and if they want the extra content, they can get it.

- "Games as Art" - I hate it when "game journalists" and critics try to boost their egos with the "games are art" arguments. Games are a unique category that can't be defined the same way a movie, painting, photography or sculpture. I understand the need to want to bring "artistic credability to the industry, but many times it comes across as whining... See Adam Sessler for more details...he's one of the worst about it.

I agree with everything you said except for your disagreement with games as art. Why can't games be defined the same way as those other art forms? They include all those art forms in some way. In most videogames, someone has to imagine and create a whole world filled with life and then present it in some way. That would be considered art in literature, film and other arts. So, what are you reasons for dismissing it as not an art? I'm very curious.

 

[YunakoTheWitch]

The Sexism debates. Yes, there is sexism in Video games, as in all media. Move the fuck on.

Get this person a Drink, I'm absolutely tired of hearing about this BS as well.

 

[Brockyman]

The Sexism debates. Yes, there is sexism in Video games, as in all media. Move the fuck on.

Get this person a Drink, I'm absolutely tired of hearing about this BS as well.

- All the EA hate. They're not perfect, but they're not evil.

- "But the next gen consoles won't have backward compatibility" - So freakin' what? Pissed you can't trade in your old system to buy the new one? Tough! I'd rather have a great new console and relocate my old ones to another room.

- "Killing the Used Games Industry" aka Online Passes aka Exclusive Content - Again, so? Developers bust their ass on AAA titles for the same retail price people were paying in the 1980s (which $60 then is like $100 now). I don't blame them for wanting to find a way to where they get paid for their work. I think the Online Pass (where you need a code to get to some of the features) is a good thing, because it allows used games to be sold, and if they want the extra content, they can get it.

- "Games as Art" - I hate it when "game journalists" and critics try to boost their egos with the "games are art" arguments. Games are a unique category that can't be defined the same way a movie, painting, photography or sculpture. I understand the need to want to bring "artistic credability to the industry, but many times it comes across as whining... See Adam Sessler for more details...he's one of the worst about it.

I agree with everything you said except for your disagreement with games as art. Why can't games be defined the same way as those other art forms? They include all those art forms in some way. In most videogames, someone has to imagine and create a whole world filled with life and then present it in some way. That would be considered art in literature, film and other arts. So, what are you reasons for dismissing it as not an art? I'm very curious.

I'm not saying games can't be art in their own way, but its much harder to judge what is good and bad as far as games go.

 

[Brockyman]

Oh. I'm also tired of all the Valve love. I don't hate them, but they're not as great as everyone seems to give them credit for. I mean a Resident Evil/Left 4 Dead crossover instead of Half-Life (episdoe) 3? Really?!

What do you mean 'instead of'? It's not like they were like 'Hmmmm, okay we only have resources for one project. Should we help Capcom add Left 4 Dead characters to Resident Evil 6, or should we make Half-Life 3 instead?'. Come on.

I would understand your point if they have said or done anything about Half-Life 3 (or episode 3), but no news about the series has come out (other then mods that fans develop) since August 2007. They basically skipped most of this console generation.

So, evidence would show that they CAN'T do that many things at once. Since Episode 2 they've done Steam (which I freely admit is awesome), Left 4 Dead (1 and 2) and Portal 2 with no news, hint, mention of anything going on with their most acclaimed series. Hell, they're even focusing on getting into the failing console market... I'm just saying do what the fans want.

 

[Nowhere Man]

The ending to Mass Effect 3. The outrage for it was so over blown you would think the game had jumped out of their collective consoles and raped the players sisters with tire irons. Film directors make narrative goofs all the time, you don't see a bunch of rump rustled theater goers practically trying to create their own version of occupy wall street over it.