Gamer Girl Jayd3Fox Bullied off web by Feminist
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I find it interesting that people are proclaiming people believe her without any posts actually saying as such.
Even if people do, are they the same people whom are questionable of Anita?
If not, what point are you trying to prove here?
Personally, if true, it sounds unfortunate.
However, at the end of the day we're on the internet, and that's the reality of things. There is a distinct irony in claiming to be against harassment and then harassing somebody, but, I suppose there are some awful people on either side.
She has nothing to gain by lying, unlike Anita, however that doesn't immediately mean it's true.
Even if people do, are they the same people whom are questionable of Anita?
If not, what point are you trying to prove here?
Personally, if true, it sounds unfortunate.
However, at the end of the day we're on the internet, and that's the reality of things. There is a distinct irony in claiming to be against harassment and then harassing somebody, but, I suppose there are some awful people on either side.
She has nothing to gain by lying, unlike Anita, however that doesn't immediately mean it's true.
>implying that people here are definitely hypocrites and there is no way to not have cognitive dissonance on this issue from a feminist/social justice perspective but it's okay for for the other side because the victim is smaller and agrees with you.AJ_Lethal said:
I don't have a particular horse in this race or anything, but I've seen stuff about evidence arise here, anything to do with Anita, and the whole Zoe Quinn issue.MarsAtlas said:
What exactly DOES qualify as good evidence on the internet?
Because I've seen people throw out literally everything(on both sides) because it wasn't an official FBI investigation report, as well as people believing every single thing posted on the subject.
It also raises the issue of how far should one go to get proper evidence for their claim. Too far and you start violating people's right to privacy, not far enough and it's not evidence worth anything.
So you end out with 2 extremes, one where any evidence producible(flimsy or not) doesn't prove anything, and the other extreme where any evidence(flimsy or not) proves everything.
Just me being curious, but I do wonder how you'd be able to produce any evidence good enough to make a point about an internet issue on an internet discussion board.
Don't you guys have you're own little area of the site to talk about this stuff? Can't you all go back to that embarrassingly long thread? Can you please not flood the comment section with these things. As far as I can tell none of the content creators for this site agree with your movement, why is this all going on here?
>Implying that i was serious when I actually did that for a minor lol (well at least the first part of it). Seriously though, no one here has even said they just don't straight up believe her like Sarkeesian and Quinn threads. Kumai didn't imply YOU were a moron, as far as I can tell that, he was saying those okay with the harassment in the name of SJ are morons and no one here takes them seriously either. So yeah, mind if you wipe that egg off your face and admit when you misinterpreted someone else's words?AJ_Lethal said:
Or a release that was rushed out so fast it was effectively unplayable until patched by the developer. Or stupid copy protection like code wheels or cryptograms printed in the instruction manual. Yeah, I miss those times as well. The problems were still bad, but they had solutions. This sort of thing...it's got no fix, other than society wide change. That's a long, slow, painful, and sometimes bloody process that spans generations. Assuming, that is, that Moore's Law doesn't apply to societal shifts as well.Asuka Soryu said:
"If I die, or kill myself it doesn't to you guys, it doesn't affect anybody. The only persons I'm hurting are my family. The people who love me. But you didn't think about that."
Very true sentiments. That said, it does come off a bit hypocritical to say that right after saying you hope they kill themselves. :/
Then ending on a message of telling the viewers to self mutilate/kill themselves....
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that she's in a very distraught state of mind, but dang.
That said, as with the others who suffered it, no one should be harassed over the internet like this.
Best wishes to jayd3fox and others who have been harassed as well.
May she NOT "chop off her own dick and shove it down her own throat".
Very true sentiments. That said, it does come off a bit hypocritical to say that right after saying you hope they kill themselves. :/
Then ending on a message of telling the viewers to self mutilate/kill themselves....
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that she's in a very distraught state of mind, but dang.
That said, as with the others who suffered it, no one should be harassed over the internet like this.
Best wishes to jayd3fox and others who have been harassed as well.
May she NOT "chop off her own dick and shove it down her own throat".
Doesn't make it right to harass her, but it took me about two minutes to stumble across a video where she's mocking the harassment of people she doesn't agree with.disgruntledgamer said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aCyCwEj62g&feature=youtu.be
Should I be true to her convictions and react to her harassment in the same way? Really, this illustrates why it isn't cool to ridicule victims of harassment. There's enough angry people out there and they'll have little problem treating you as you treat others.
It's not right, but there's a certain hypocrisy in the critics of "professional victimhood" being so quick to play the victim card. The OP didn't even wait for the media to react to it, he just crawled up on the cross and martyred himself.
And to the people who did this. Not cool. You cannot use the tools of assholes without becoming the very assholes you fight. It's not like they're winning. They're losing so spectacularly that it's practically a waiting game. All we have to do is continue to call out dickish behavior and they'll eventually whither on the vine. Being a dick like this only gives fodder for the people who desperately want to be the "real" victims.
Here's something I find amusing.
Whenever we start talking about the harassment of certain people there's two stock answers. First, "welcome to the Internet". Of course some asshole is going to do this shit to you. Second, "they're making it up", a statement backed up with nothing which could ever be considered evidence... they just know they're lying and back up the assertion by demanding a stack of proof from anyone who says it did happen.
Yeah, those two reactions are just a bit contradictory. Get a high enough profile, especially if you're controversial, and you're going to get death threats, some of which will feature enough details to be properly scary. Happens to celebrities, happens to politicians, happened to the creator of "Girls Gone Wild", happens to feminist YouTubers who are the subject ofendless YouTube videos made by creepy guys in darken rooms rambling through a half-hour video with no real script and endless message board posts.
Whenever we start talking about the harassment of certain people there's two stock answers. First, "welcome to the Internet". Of course some asshole is going to do this shit to you. Second, "they're making it up", a statement backed up with nothing which could ever be considered evidence... they just know they're lying and back up the assertion by demanding a stack of proof from anyone who says it did happen.
Yeah, those two reactions are just a bit contradictory. Get a high enough profile, especially if you're controversial, and you're going to get death threats, some of which will feature enough details to be properly scary. Happens to celebrities, happens to politicians, happened to the creator of "Girls Gone Wild", happens to feminist YouTubers who are the subject ofendless YouTube videos made by creepy guys in darken rooms rambling through a half-hour video with no real script and endless message board posts.
Not exactly, look carefully:MarsAtlas said:
1- Default egg avatar and theme
2- Frequency of tweets -10 tweets in 3 minutes-
3- Amount of tweets -10 is a very low number-
4- Not much personal info
5- Logged out screenshot
Conclusion: it might be a sockpuppet account.
EDIT: this guy pulled out a better breakdown: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/820/419/b8d.jpg