Games are art. Present your case!
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Assume that "Life imitates art" and "art imitates life" are both true.
Using the transitive property, we can infer that Art Imitates Art.
Movies are considered art.
Uwe Boll has made movies that are based on (imitate) video-games.
Ergo, Video Games are art.
Using the transitive property, we can infer that Art Imitates Art.
Movies are considered art.
Uwe Boll has made movies that are based on (imitate) video-games.
Ergo, Video Games are art.
Grim Fandango, as in my mind it's the closest a game has ever gotten to being cinematic. (In plot, pacing, and characterization. Not necessarily in gameplay.)
Playing that game I'm instantly reminded of classic film noir from the 30s, and it's effing beautiful.
Playing that game I'm instantly reminded of classic film noir from the 30s, and it's effing beautiful.
I'd also say Grim Fandango. Just such a visually pleasing work of art. Its style really does draw you into the game. Plus I really love the idea of dividing the game into four acts.
Yep. At it's most fundamental level, 'Art' is using a creative endeavor to ellicit an emotional or intellectual response.Altorin said:
Everything else is layers of bullshit.
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I'm a moderate gamer, I had my NES and SNES for many a year, and only a couple years ago I picked up my first PS2, so I haven't had a chance to check out some of these hardcore games I'm told are the Best Games Evar. Please allow me to put forth some of my top most favs:
Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
Both FullMetal Alchemist games
The selection here I've chosen each touched me personally on an emotional level. And really, deep down they did each carry the theme: What does it mean to be human? This theme is in the entire Kingdom Hearts series with its shades of grey enemies. The two FMA games where our hero sees himself in the villain, particularly the ending of Crimson Elixir, very chilling. The climax of Link's Awakening was so jolting (in a lil ol GBA game no less!) I really didn't know what to do. For the first time, I felt guilty for winning a video game! In Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, the main character's friend wasn't just the main character's friend, he was *MY* friend. I saw the world in a different way after playing each of these games, and seeing it First Person, where it was in my limited hands, definitely gives you a unique experience.
Scott Adams does a great job defending Comic Books as an art form. One thing he wrote that resonated with me is Dont confuse content for the medium. Just because there happen to be a range of quality of art in books or games, you can't discount the entire genre.
True, Games can have great visuals and beautiful music which individually can be considered art. But Games are the total package put together. The writing, the gameplay, the immersion, how you interact with this created world in a way no other medium allows you to.
I think Games are really coming along way thanks to the everyman Internet Critics of our time really giving thoughtful analysis to this medium.
Art is subjective, and just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't art. On the contrary, it could be art by the very fact you don't like it - it has provoked an emotional response in you. Coming up with a legal definition is difficult if not impossible, and if you can't say what is art then you can't say what it isn't.
And why does a game have to be all hoity-toity to even enter into this discussion? Games are fun! Just like rock n roll! If you can love the early Beatles music as art, then why not a Super Mario?
http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-ebert-is-wrong-in-defense-of-games-as-art/
I'm a moderate gamer, I had my NES and SNES for many a year, and only a couple years ago I picked up my first PS2, so I haven't had a chance to check out some of these hardcore games I'm told are the Best Games Evar. Please allow me to put forth some of my top most favs:
Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
Both FullMetal Alchemist games
The selection here I've chosen each touched me personally on an emotional level. And really, deep down they did each carry the theme: What does it mean to be human? This theme is in the entire Kingdom Hearts series with its shades of grey enemies. The two FMA games where our hero sees himself in the villain, particularly the ending of Crimson Elixir, very chilling. The climax of Link's Awakening was so jolting (in a lil ol GBA game no less!) I really didn't know what to do. For the first time, I felt guilty for winning a video game! In Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, the main character's friend wasn't just the main character's friend, he was *MY* friend. I saw the world in a different way after playing each of these games, and seeing it First Person, where it was in my limited hands, definitely gives you a unique experience.
Scott Adams does a great job defending Comic Books as an art form. One thing he wrote that resonated with me is Dont confuse content for the medium. Just because there happen to be a range of quality of art in books or games, you can't discount the entire genre.
True, Games can have great visuals and beautiful music which individually can be considered art. But Games are the total package put together. The writing, the gameplay, the immersion, how you interact with this created world in a way no other medium allows you to.
I think Games are really coming along way thanks to the everyman Internet Critics of our time really giving thoughtful analysis to this medium.
Art is subjective, and just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't art. On the contrary, it could be art by the very fact you don't like it - it has provoked an emotional response in you. Coming up with a legal definition is difficult if not impossible, and if you can't say what is art then you can't say what it isn't.
And why does a game have to be all hoity-toity to even enter into this discussion? Games are fun! Just like rock n roll! If you can love the early Beatles music as art, then why not a Super Mario?
http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-ebert-is-wrong-in-defense-of-games-as-art/