LimaBravo said:
Are you being deliberately obtuse & trolling to get a rise or are you truly unable to read ?
Movies photographs & games arent art their 'captures of reality' games are mechanisms of play.
The art resources USED by a game are art, the game itself isnt if you cant read or differentiated between art resources & the game your playing your too shallow minded to participate in this conversation. A game is not its art resources, If you took the above graphics & put them in pong, pong would not be art. The art for pong would be art. Pong is a mechanism.
Reading is a very important skill as is knowing what words mean.
Games are games, Art is art. Games use art but in themselves cannot be artistic cause its a game. The components of the game can be artistic, story line, resources , music but the game cannot be.
Just so you understand name one game mechanism stripped of its art & sound resources which is artful. ?
Wow, you really sound like you
want to turn this in a flamewar with that arrogant tone of yours. Take a chillpill.
Anyway, yea movies (what about animated movies?) and photographs are 'captures of reality', but why does that mean they can't be art? I did read, you're twisting your own words here. You said that "paintings are art even landscapes & portraits because an individuals skill is required to make the product it has marks of being made on it." You cannot ignore the fact that that counts for movies, games and photography as well and that has nothing to do with the fact that movies and photography are 'captures of reality'. If you say that movies, games and photography does not take any skill to make...well, sorry for these words, but then you're simply talking out of your ass. I can't believe that you could say with a straight face that does things do not require skill.
You also said 'Art is the creation of an original piece of work distinct in style & distinctiveness for a purpose.' and again, I don't know why that cannot include movies and photography. Movies and photographes are still a piece of work, they're images made by us.
In the end, your whole argument lacks...well, actual arguments and it's incredibly incoherent. It doesn't make any sense to me.
What you said about games: you talk as if all those things are seperatly. I dissagree, those things aren't seperate, the game is a whole; the graphics, music, gameplay mechanics, story, etc etc etc all working together. In my opinion, it's the whole way all those parts work together and form a single, well-oiled machine that can make a game art.
PS: You talk about art as if art actually is something. I disagree, I think art is a label and not an actual thing.
LimaBravo said:
No skill exhibited = no artistic merit. Pointing a camera doesnt require skill it requires knowledge of lense aperature to light levels.
You gotta be kidding me? My grandma would like to have a word with you, and would like to give you a big slap in the face. Heck I think every proffesional, or even hobby, photographist would like to do that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine_art_photography There you go. I
really really REALLY wonder how the hell you're going to argue how photography does not take any skill. Go on, please, I'd like to hear your arguments.
