Games blamed for rape... in JERSEY?!?

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murphy7801

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robert632 said:
Where is the connection between rape and war games coming from? It's not like many games he was probably playing were filled with rape(I bet I could count the amount of war games with rape in them on 1 hand.), and the blame is clearly on anger mixing with hormones anyway.
Or possible shit parenting
 

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wordsmith said:
The article centers (for me) on the fact that a mother can't control her 14 year old kid.

2,000 gamers, maybe a couple more on this particular bit of rock. And we're all psychos, obviously.

Any of you lot had something similar happen near where you live?

[sub] I'd also like to point out, that as a gamer who is annoyed at one of his parents, I am not going to resort to raping someone. Promise.[/sub]
We really aren't looking at the bright side to all of this.

However untrue it may be, if newspapers keep making this association, people will stop questioning gamers about how much time they spend on games. It is truly brilliant. Soon they may stop asking us for things all together!

No taxes on gamers! *forms his own religion.*
 

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dogstile said:
To be fair, I don't give a damn about the girl. My only problem is you're calling him a coward for being sensible. Sensible about a crime, yes. But sensible nonetheless. Lets see you fight someone twice your size.
So you think he's sensible?.

Your right, although he probably learned that little don't fight bigger shits than you from WOW or Borderlands.

If he'd played a game like Unreal where you don't level up so its all about reactions times then he would have taken on Big Fella instead of raping a girl that no one cares about.

edit, whats fair about not giving a damn about a girl that got raped?, could someone explain that to me please.
Its a phrase I use too often, ignore it.

Anyway, reaction times or not, you'd still have to be damned stupid to fight a guy twice your size.

Also, "taken on the big fella instead of raping a girl that nobody cares about". Are you implying that more people would give a damn if he stabbed the big dude?
 

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"War games"?! Was this article printed in 1983?

Of all of the many, many, MANY things wrong with this article, including the fact that the kid's mental problems were more likely due to a bad upbringing or the article doesn't mention similarities to the crime and the game, I find it very amusing that they couldn't name this oh-so horrible rape-inducing game, or just call it a video game or a computer game.

In fact the whole article reads like a bad translation. This was printed in English, right? By an English-speaking person?
 

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Thank God this didn't happen in New Jersey, or the kid would have burned down a city block and raped everyone in the nearest convent.
 

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dogstile said:
ColdStorage said:
dogstile said:
To be fair, I don't give a damn about the girl. My only problem is you're calling him a coward for being sensible. Sensible about a crime, yes. But sensible nonetheless. Lets see you fight someone twice your size.
So you think he's sensible?.

Your right, although he probably learned that little don't fight bigger shits than you from WOW or Borderlands.

If he'd played a game like Unreal where you don't level up so its all about reactions times then he would have taken on Big Fella instead of raping a girl that no one cares about.

edit, whats fair about not giving a damn about a girl that got raped?, could someone explain that to me please.
-snipgnored-

Anyway, reaction times or not, you'd still have to be damned stupid to fight a guy twice your size.
He was angry, and he passed up the chance to fight, if he was that angry and a capable fighter then yes he'd have hit the big fella.

I've gotten into fights with bigger dudes before, and I never raped a girl.

Out of everything you could pick out to argue the semantics you use the option of "he's sensible for not fighting a guy bigger than him and then raping a girl", you have a problem with me calling him a coward?, what part of your mind goes and tells you its perfect sense to say to a guy "hey I have a problem with you calling a rapist a coward".

dogstile said:
Also, "taken on the big fella instead of raping a girl that nobody cares about". Are you implying that more people would give a damn if he stabbed the big dude?
I'm not implying that, you are.
 

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i don't normally take "the games are making kids violent" thing seriously. Its pretty much an excuse that shitty parents give to make up 4 the fact that they suck at parenting. the same arguments have been made about television as well, and we all know that no is willing to give up their TV. SO its only a matter of time when video games reach the point at which they become a modern necesity like the TV and the next new thing that kids are into becomes the target of future shitty parents
 

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ColdStorage said:
dogstile said:
ColdStorage said:
dogstile said:
To be fair, I don't give a damn about the girl. My only problem is you're calling him a coward for being sensible. Sensible about a crime, yes. But sensible nonetheless. Lets see you fight someone twice your size.
So you think he's sensible?.

Your right, although he probably learned that little don't fight bigger shits than you from WOW or Borderlands.

If he'd played a game like Unreal where you don't level up so its all about reactions times then he would have taken on Big Fella instead of raping a girl that no one cares about.

edit, whats fair about not giving a damn about a girl that got raped?, could someone explain that to me please.
-snipgnored-

Anyway, reaction times or not, you'd still have to be damned stupid to fight a guy twice your size.
He was angry, and he passed up the chance to fight, if he was that angry and a capable fighter then yes he'd have hit the big fella.

I've gotten into fights with bigger dudes before, and I never raped a girl.

Out of everything you could pick out to argue the semantics you use the option of "he's sensible for not fighting a guy bigger than him and then raping a girl", you have a problem with me calling him a coward?, what part of your mind goes and tells you its perfect sense to say to a guy "hey I have a problem with you calling a rapist a coward".

dogstile said:
Also, "taken on the big fella instead of raping a girl that nobody cares about". Are you implying that more people would give a damn if he stabbed the big dude?
I'm not implying that, you are.
I don't see that at all. I said that /I/ don't care about the girl. Don't know her, don't care. What I was pointing out was the aforementioned avoiding of the big guy, when you mentioned the girl, I said i didn't care. She is irrelevant to that particular point.
 

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dogstile said:
I don't see that at all. I said that /I/ don't care about the girl. Don't know her, don't care. What I was pointing out was the aforementioned avoiding of the big guy, when you mentioned the girl, I said i didn't care. She is irrelevant to that particular point.
Really?, she's irrelevant?

Your right she is.

Now where were we?, oh yeah, we were talking about how that rapist is fucking clever for not mugging a big fella and instead raping a girl.

GO HIM!

so what colour should our pom poms be when he gets released and we cheer his Newtonian brain of his?.
 

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dogstile said:
ColdStorage said:
dogstile said:
ColdStorage said:
dogstile said:
To be fair, I don't give a damn about the girl. My only problem is you're calling him a coward for being sensible. Sensible about a crime, yes. But sensible nonetheless. Lets see you fight someone twice your size.
So you think he's sensible?.

Your right, although he probably learned that little don't fight bigger shits than you from WOW or Borderlands.

If he'd played a game like Unreal where you don't level up so its all about reactions times then he would have taken on Big Fella instead of raping a girl that no one cares about.

edit, whats fair about not giving a damn about a girl that got raped?, could someone explain that to me please.
-snipgnored-

Anyway, reaction times or not, you'd still have to be damned stupid to fight a guy twice your size.
He was angry, and he passed up the chance to fight, if he was that angry and a capable fighter then yes he'd have hit the big fella.

I've gotten into fights with bigger dudes before, and I never raped a girl.

Out of everything you could pick out to argue the semantics you use the option of "he's sensible for not fighting a guy bigger than him and then raping a girl", you have a problem with me calling him a coward?, what part of your mind goes and tells you its perfect sense to say to a guy "hey I have a problem with you calling a rapist a coward".

dogstile said:
Also, "taken on the big fella instead of raping a girl that nobody cares about". Are you implying that more people would give a damn if he stabbed the big dude?
I'm not implying that, you are.
I don't see that at all. I said that /I/ don't care about the girl. Don't know her, don't care. What I was pointing out was the aforementioned avoiding of the big guy, when you mentioned the girl, I said i didn't care. She is irrelevant to that particular point.
You don't care about a girl you don't know being raped, but you care about a rapist you don't know being libelled. Yes I see the logic there.
 

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ChromeAlchemist said:
ColdStorage said:
wordsmith said:
After first ignoring a heavily-built man, he turned his attention to a 19-year-old who was making her way home from town late on 13 October. After following her to the Westmount area, he forced her into a field at knifepoint before subjecting her to brutal rape.
What a fucking coward.
My thoughts exactly.
Amen. If the little **** thought he was that hard he should've taken on the heavy-set guy.
 

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Perhaps people blame video games for all the world's problems because it is something new that seems to expose people to violence. They use it in the Nature-vs-Nurture argument, because then it seems like there is something tangible that can be "solved" if they just work hard enough.
Meanwhile, going back thousands of years, people have raped, murdered, plundered, robbed, assaulted, and pillaged their way through life. My point is that these things that games are being blamed for have existed for thousands of years. Now, I'm not entirely sure of how time works, but I'm fairly sure that future events cannot influence the past. So it seems kind of silly to think that we're so radically different from our murdering ancestors, and video games are making us relapse or something.
 

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wordsmith said:
After a row with his mother over the amount of time he was spending playing the game, the 14-year-old left home with the intention of mugging the first person he saw. He took a kitchen knife and home-made balaclava with him.

After first ignoring a heavily-built man, he turned his attention to a 19-year-old who was making her way home from town late on 13 October. After following her to the Westmount area, he forced her into a field at knifepoint before subjecting her to brutal rape.
The article centers (for me) on the fact that a mother can't control her 14 year old kid.
You don't get to choose whether your kid is mentally ill or devoid of conscience. For all you know, the kid was going to be set off by something eventually. It's unfortunate it happened when he was still a minor and can't be locked up for good - you'll see him doing this again in a few years.

The way I see it, the only thing that would have stood a chance of stopping him was armed self-defense by the victim. Is self-defense legal in Jersey?
 

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Nutcase said:
wordsmith said:
After a row with his mother over the amount of time he was spending playing the game, the 14-year-old left home with the intention of mugging the first person he saw. He took a kitchen knife and home-made balaclava with him.

After first ignoring a heavily-built man, he turned his attention to a 19-year-old who was making her way home from town late on 13 October. After following her to the Westmount area, he forced her into a field at knifepoint before subjecting her to brutal rape.
The article centers (for me) on the fact that a mother can't control her 14 year old kid.
You don't get to choose whether your kid is mentally ill or devoid of conscience. For all you know, the kid was going to be set off by something eventually. It's unfortunate it happened when he was still a minor and can't be locked up for good - you'll see him doing this again in a few years.

The way I see it, the only thing that would have stood a chance of stopping him was armed self-defense by the victim. Is self-defense legal in Jersey?
I think self-defence is legal anywhere =/ within reason. The cops aren't going to book you for trying to stop someone murdering you are they?
 

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ChromeAlchemist said:
I think rather than "Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It", we should change it to "Videogames made me do it". Ridiculous. Fucking ludicrous in fact.

Every little thing these days, it's getting grating.
I'm sure Weird Al could do it.
 

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the only reason this got any news is because of the fact he was playing a video game, i garantee if he had been reading a book, even if it was a smut book, it would have goten zero coverage. the media has always been out to bash the video game market