Games that are critic proof

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Kurokami

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starocean13 said:
So the thought crossed mt mind...what games can you think of that are more or less critic proof? Im not trying to turn this into another StarCraft2 thread, it its the most recent game that I can imagine falls into this topic. The point is can you think of any other games that at announcment you knew everybody would wind up buying no matter what reviewers said about it?
I love starcraft2, but its far from critic proof. Especially with the way its currently screwing up my computer, apparently there's quite a bit of support neglect for ATI graphics card users or something? (Only saying that cause that's what I read, and that my PC that can run games on their highest settings is crashing every 10 minutes or so of gameplay) Also, the story is great but as I understand it (due to previous issue, I haven't finished, but I'm speaking mostly from what I've heard) feels unfinished.

Like I said, I love the game from what I've managed to play though.

Almost forgot my game... Although I think all games are pretty easily criticized...

Hmmm...

All my favorite games can be criticized easily ><

I'd probably go for Starcraft 2 as well on account of its editor and different maps.
 

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There doesn't exist a single game that has been played by more than 50 people and is universally liked by everyone. However, as far as critical failures go that sell really well I think the 2006 Sonic the Hedgehog game is a good example: panned by all critics (which is completely justified because it's a horrible and broken game) but it still sold a few million copies if I'm correct.
 

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Aardvark Soup said:
There doesn't exist a single game that has been played by more than 50 people and is universally liked by everyone. However, as far as critical failures go that sell really well I think the 2006 Sonic the Hedgehog game is a good example: panned by all critics (which is completely justified because it's a horrible and broken game) but it still sold a few million copies if I'm correct.
Yeah, this always seems to be the case. Sonic hasn't had an overly well reviewed game in years and I think most of them still sell fairly well anyway.
 

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bluewax said:
I think you need to go retro. Nobody's about to say that Tetris isn't a great game.
This.

Also, I have never heard a bad word about The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past. And the only bad thing I've heard about The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time has to do with either Navi or the water temple.
 

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CoD, Halo, Valve's games, Bioware's games, Blizzard's games, Final Fantasies, etc..

I'm sure you see the pattern. Triple A games made by big-name devs will ALWAYS sell well, even if they get shite reviews, because the average video game purchaser does not read reviews.
 

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Since almost anyone who posted missed the point of OT(Even guys with 1000+ Posts, I'm deeply ashamed of you), here is my addition to what they wrote:

Pong.
/(RTFOT)thread

...and now back to OT:
If you take a look at most of the major games in the last few years it is obvious, that most of them are cashcows(CoD 6, Sims 3,etc....).
Not the worst games, looking nice, marketed with XXX millions budget, but -lightning strike me- none really good.
And since they are marketed almost to perfection, they will always sell ...
Because most people follow any advertising(media hypes are part of corporate marketing) like mindless zombies(watch the original "Night of the Living Dead" for the pun), I see no change to that trend...
Sad, but true.

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SonicWaffle said:
If by gutted you mean streamlined...I wasn't a fan of the RPG elements being toned down, but you can hardly argue that they've been gutted. You get, what, a few less skills? Oh, the horror. Other than that, the RPG factor is the same; you build a character, make decisions that clearly define your character, build relationships with other characters, and make decisions which have an effect on the plot. Sounds a lot like an RPG to me.
Doesnt to me. Sounds, looks and feels like a cheap TPS that is only an RPG in the barest, subjective sense, and mainly is just called one because of developer BS.

It was a Gears clone first and foremost. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.

SonicWaffle said:
I'm replaying the original ME currently, and you really have time to reflect on how crappy the action sequences are once you've played ME2. The combat overhaul was necessary to prevent the stale combat from the first game - don't get me wrong, I love ME, but the combat from the second game pisses all over the first. Being able to tactically place squad members makes a ton of difference when you combine doing so with the right weapon choices, and the improvement (yes, improvement, ME was a cover-based shooter too if you were smart) of the cover system helped a lot. Was it reminiscent of other shooters? Yes. Did that make it any less of a game? No.
Im currently replaying ME2 and Im really having a lot of time to reflect on what a dumbed down mass appeal piece of shit it is.

Biowhore admitted it themselves anyway. The marketing was full to the brim with shooter fan cock sucking (come and play our game Modern Warfare fans, we want sales like MW2), and the lead gameplay designer owned up to the fact that ME2 was build as a shooter first before anything else. That should show where their priorities lay.

Thats why the game is so loosely connected and centred almost entirely around combat. Its why they added ammo, shooter health regen, and made sure even the power based characters had to play the game like a cover based TPS.

Like ME2 all you want, but dont try and suggest people are wrong for calling it out for the dumbed down, blatant shooter pandering trash that it is.

I wanted an earnest attempt at a hybrid like ME1 was, even if it was flawed. I didnt want a shooter pandering bore than only pays lip service to being an RPG.

If ME3 is going to be as "streamlined", Biowhore can kiss goodbye to my purchase, thats for sure.
 

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starocean13 said:
Im not trying to turn this into another StarCraft2 thread, it its the most recent game that I can imagine falls into this topic.
HAH! You obviously haven't been outside much lately have you? Check the amazon reviews. The game is barely holding up 3 stars with the people who write their reviews there. "An unfinished masterpiece" is one of the quotes I believe.
 

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For me it was Guitar Hero. I remember there being quite a bit of speculation based on how unbelievably DUMB it looked. I mean seriously. You have a shitty looking plastic guitar that you press buttons on according to flashing dots on the screen.

And then people started playing it and found out that it was INCREDIBLY FUN. Fate makes fools of us all.
 

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Anyone who says Mass Effect 2 was better than Mass Effect 1 in this thread doesn't know what they are talking about. Just Sayin'.

And I think Red Dead Redemption falls under the category of games that is ALMOST Critic proof

Because there is nothing 100% critic proof because of freedom of speech
 

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System Shock 2 and Deus Ex. Both games are amazing, and even if, say, Yahtzee reviewed System Shock 2 and called it a piece of crap, everyone is still going to say it's on of the best games ever made for the PC.
 

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Hubilub said:
I don't think any game falls into that category, but some get closer than others.


Everybody winded up buying it after all. Most people hate on it but they bought it.

EDIT: Did nobody but me read the last sentence in the OP? Hu.
I dindnt buy it and never will! SUCKER!
 

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Dr. Awesome Face said:
SonicWaffle said:
but a lot of these people are included in the 98% of the internet that are idiots, just conforming because someone else said Halo was bad.
Did you just say that someone else was an idiot because they don't have the same interests as you? That's pretty idiotic to me.
 

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MattyJ said:
Didn't someone get fired for giving Kane and Lynch a mediocre review on gamespot or something? I think that makes it critic proof in a way.
Well, Gamespot.... They're reviews are terrible. They gave the first Transformers movie game a higher rating than War for Cybertron. The movie game was without a doubt the worst game I've EVER played.
 

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Portal. No-on can find a bad word about it. Except that its too short, but that's a good thing. And the length works.
 

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legend of zelda majoras mask, there is NOTHING not to be liked about it, i reveiewed that once, i essentially had to make fun of myself!
 

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Anyone can criticize any game, they just might be wrong, or be criticizing it on something so stupid that nobody cares. People will FIND a way to be assholes, no matter what.
 

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Xaositect said:
Doesnt to me. Sounds, looks and feels like a cheap TPS that is only an RPG in the barest, subjective sense, and mainly is just called one because of developer BS.

It was a Gears clone first and foremost. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial.
It was a Gears clone because it had cover-based shooting? You know, exactly like the first Mass Effect did, but improved? Wow. I never knew that this was all it took! Some slight similarities in the way combat is handled utterly invalidate the rest of the game; the storyline (the game's main appeal), the RPG elements, all those choices you make over the course of the game. None of that stuff matters, because the game is clearly just a Gears clone! Jesus...

Xaositect said:
Im currently replaying ME2 and Im really having a lot of time to reflect on what a dumbed down mass appeal piece of shit it is.
Careful now, you're starting to sound like one of those "I hate everything popular!" guys...

Xaositect said:
Biowhore admitted it themselves anyway. The marketing was full to the brim with shooter fan cock sucking (come and play our game Modern Warfare fans, we want sales like MW2), and the lead gameplay designer owned up to the fact that ME2 was build as a shooter first before anything else. That should show where their priorities lay.
With making the best game they could? Gasp! My shock knows no bounds. I am literally reeling. What were the two biggest complaints about the first game? Boring combat and lengthly elevators. So for the second game, what did BioWare do? They re-vamped combat and removed the elevators. They'll have to be careful, or people will start suspecting they actually listen to the fans!

Xaositect said:
Thats why the game is so loosely connected and centred almost entirely around combat. Its why they added ammo, shooter health regen, and made sure even the power based characters had to play the game like a cover based TPS.
I'd say the game is based almost entirely around the story. It's an RPG, it's about the story! The gameplay is centred largely around combat, but how is that any different from the original? If you recall, a hell of a lot of time was spent in combat in the first game too. Except you also had those awkward, unpopular Mako sections which - surprise surprise! - have also been removed. Once again, it looks like BioWare have been listening to the fans. Tsk. They'll never get anywhere like that.

Xaositect said:
Like ME2 all you want, but dont try and suggest people are wrong for calling it out for the dumbed down, blatant shooter pandering trash that it is.
Yeah, OK, I take it back. You are sounding like those "I hate everything popular!" guys. Is your biggest issue that the game didn't pander to your exact preferences, or that it didn't pander to your exact preferences but everyone loved it anyway?

I feel fully justified in disagreeing with your opinion. I'm an RPG man. Love 'em. Loved Mass Effect for the RPG factors - levelling, storyline, choices. Loved Mass Effect 2 even more for the RPG factors - levelling, storyline, especially my previous choices being carried over PLUS vastly improved combat. If you're going to spend the majority of the game doing something, it might as well work properly.

Xaositect said:
If ME3 is going to be as "streamlined", Biowhore can kiss goodbye to my purchase, thats for sure.
I'm sure the patronage of someone who uses the word 'Biowhore' unironically is no great loss.