Games that do NOT/did NOT deserve a sequel
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Bioshock, Left 4 Dead, Gears of War, Half Life, Assassins Creed, Halo, Star Wars Force Unleashed.
Well actually there are 10 spin offs and technically over 100 releases of the FF name in the name in the main series but 80% of those are different release in different Regions and little remakes and Anthologies. To my count that actually brings it to about 30. Since most of these like FF Tactics only resemble in name so they don't have to waste money on a new IP ala Quake I really don't see a problem with it.Grey_Focks said:
Halo 3 and ODST were fairly unnecessary (especially ODST)
Also uncharted 2 (and the first for that matter)
Also uncharted 2 (and the first for that matter)
Not that I'm a huge fan of the series, but Quake 3 always bugged me because it was an arena deathmatch game and not what quake 1 and 2 were about. It should have been called Quake Online or Quake Arena or something. Same with FFXI. Just fucking call it Final Fantasy Online. Instead, they now have to call the next iterations in their series by the next number when it's not really the 4th and 12th games.
Of course with Final Fantasy, it wasn't really the 11th either.
I'm also going to jump on the Bioshock 2 bandwagon. I've decided to not play it because of how much I don't think it needs to exist. I'll probably pick it up for under $10 on Steam one of these days, but I think BS 2 is a prime example of what is wrong with the industry. They made a game that wasn't meant to appeal to the original fans of the game, but just the people who liked the name of the game. If it was meant to appeal to the fans of the original game, then they would have not made it, or just done something different with the story. I personally wanted to play as the police chief dealing with the downfall of Rapture. There could have been a lot of interesting choices for the player (or lack of them ) by being forced to choose between the ideals of Rapture, the orders from your boss, and the safety of the people under your protection. THAT is what was good about BS 1: the background and story. The devs just didn't realize that and instead they just made another game based on the premise with the piss-poor FPS gameplay. Now that the game is out, no one is really talking about it. People are still talking about the masterpiece that BS1 was 3 years later. I don't think I'm missing anything.
Of course with Final Fantasy, it wasn't really the 11th either.
I'm also going to jump on the Bioshock 2 bandwagon. I've decided to not play it because of how much I don't think it needs to exist. I'll probably pick it up for under $10 on Steam one of these days, but I think BS 2 is a prime example of what is wrong with the industry. They made a game that wasn't meant to appeal to the original fans of the game, but just the people who liked the name of the game. If it was meant to appeal to the fans of the original game, then they would have not made it, or just done something different with the story. I personally wanted to play as the police chief dealing with the downfall of Rapture. There could have been a lot of interesting choices for the player (or lack of them
) by being forced to choose between the ideals of Rapture, the orders from your boss, and the safety of the people under your protection. THAT is what was good about BS 1: the background and story. The devs just didn't realize that and instead they just made another game based on the premise with the piss-poor FPS gameplay. Now that the game is out, no one is really talking about it. People are still talking about the masterpiece that BS1 was 3 years later. I don't think I'm missing anything.
I don't think BioShock needed one. BioShock wrapped everything in a neat little bow.Kuchinawa212 said:
Also, I'm actually enjoying ODST more than Halo 3. I don't know why. It just seems more... interesting than Halo 3. Maybe it's because Halo had an established storyline and I knew what was going to happen. I'm kinda happy with the way the story is going
And L4D2. I don't REALLY think it needed a sequel, and to me the game feels rushed and cheap because Valve put it out so quickly. Speaking of Valve...
You know what gamed does need a sequel? Half-Life 2: Episode 3!
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed. It was a great game. But a sequal dosent make since at the end of the first you either die or become the new Vader.
I better not see any Fallout: New Vegas hate
I better not see any Fallout: New Vegas hate
Well, speak for yourself, but CoD5 is my favourite CoD (and incidentally, one of my favourite games).118Cashmore said:
I think Bioskock 2 is pretty muc the most useless game ever. Sure it wasn't bad, but Bioshock didn't need it, it was perfectly self-contained.
I personally think HoMMV needs a sequel (and not some online thing!). Although the game wasn't as good as HoMMIII, it rebooted the whole thing and changed the lore, getting rid of the whole sci-fi element, which I personally hated.
Just wondering (PM if you care to answer, I suppose, so as not to derail the thread) but how is this a feminist rant in particular? I've been irritated by it for ages, consider any amount to be too much and wish there was an option to turn it all off (much like gore in some games). Ideally, the same would happen to characters that are apparently more fluent in profanity than English, and all other hallmarks of the "we'll earn that M rating if it kills us" attitude that plagues so many otherwise excellent games.chinangel said:
...Shutting up about that now, sorry. Er, sequels, yes? Hm. Well, I don't think there are many games that don't deserve sequels. Some people enjoy it, and if I don't, I'll avoid the game. As for things that really need a sequel, well, I don't know about direct sequels, but I'll be quite happy to see something similar to Arcanum. Or something in the Planescape setting. Or anything written by Chris Avellone (Planescape: Torment Avellone, not, say, IWD2 Avellone).
As for direct sequels, I wish they finished Legacy of Kain (shush, Blood Omen 2 never happened), but with the plot writer leaving and Tony Jay's death, it's not really possible.
Oh I bet it was a good game, no doubt. But was it really necessary? I don't really think so.Radelaide said:I don't think BioShock needed one. BioShock wrapped everything in a neat little bow.Kuchinawa212 said:
Also, I'm actually enjoying ODST more than Halo 3. I don't know why. It just seems more... interesting than Halo 3. Maybe it's because Halo had an established storyline and I knew what was going to happen. I'm kinda happy with the way the story is going
And L4D2. I don't REALLY think it needed a sequel, and to me the game feels rushed and cheap because Valve put it out so quickly. Speaking of Valve...
You know what gamed does need a sequel? Half-Life 2: Episode 3!
Not to mention it was "from another angle for 3 hours."Kuchinawa212 said:
And then we got Big Willie.... then the third Vegas Adventure that felt like it was an extremely early beta build...PatrickXD said:
How do you mess up "Alien takes over peoples mind through their #$%holes"?
The original was basically sequel proof by tightly holding in its story by every single thread and making an ending that really ended the whole mess fully. Nothing left to do but create unresolved threads of their own.cornmancer said:
