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You'd think those assenine morons would eventually tire themselves out, but nooooo!
You'd think those assenine morons would eventually tire themselves out, but nooooo!
Games that have been ruined by their Fans
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Final Fantasy XI.
I tried for four months to get my Dragoon AF body and head pieces, and not a soul would help me. I quit because of that. Problem is, you can't do ANYTHING in that game by yourself, so if you're not a bloody social butterfly, you won't get to do anything.
Also, Halo like people have said. Multiplayer was fun for a little bit, but there's just better shooters out there. Also, Guitar Hero. I can't even fathom how someone would prefer this over Rock Band, except out of sheer fanboyism.
I tried for four months to get my Dragoon AF body and head pieces, and not a soul would help me. I quit because of that. Problem is, you can't do ANYTHING in that game by yourself, so if you're not a bloody social butterfly, you won't get to do anything.
Also, Halo like people have said. Multiplayer was fun for a little bit, but there's just better shooters out there. Also, Guitar Hero. I can't even fathom how someone would prefer this over Rock Band, except out of sheer fanboyism.
Counter-Strike, WoW, any online fighting game, any free Korean-made game*, Guild Wars**, Pokemon, Halo, DDR, Guitar Hero, any 2D fighter and the Playstation 3 console itself. I'm sorry but every owner I've met, even a long-time friend, is a pretentious douche about it.
* - Sometimes it's both the fans AND companies that kill these games. "Give us money for an unfair advantage over everyone else, but still play! It'll be fun!
** - Don't get me wrong, it's the only MMO I can stomach with its better gameplay and lack of monthly fees, but the micro-transactions and people-with-all-four-installments-and-indestructible-builds-whoring-up-PVP are a bit of a problem.
* - Sometimes it's both the fans AND companies that kill these games. "Give us money for an unfair advantage over everyone else, but still play! It'll be fun!
** - Don't get me wrong, it's the only MMO I can stomach with its better gameplay and lack of monthly fees, but the micro-transactions and people-with-all-four-installments-and-indestructible-builds-whoring-up-PVP are a bit of a problem.
Same here xD When I'm alone I play serious, but not elitist.. I don't care if a person gets 2 kills and 20 deaths as long as he's trying and isn't just TKing or being a douche.MasterExploder said:
But when you get with friends, it's just more fun and things are better to joke about.. You can't have the same stupid fun alone, which is why it's different. Of course on the other hand, it is really annoying for other people to encounter said douche-group.
Halo is dead to real gamers because of psycho fans. Portal was great, and still is.. but it's just not as entertaining after reading 'the cake is a lie' posted on every forum and every blog, every day. WoW was doomed to be elitist from the beginning.. It's an MMO, based on an RTS. RTS's are some of the most elitist games around, when you get people who micro and can wipe you out with 20 units in 2 minutes of gameplay.
I don't know if "ruined" is the right word, but Counter-Strike and Halo definetly top this list. Whatever their merits as games, Halo and Counter-Strike are both synonyms for "idiot fanboys".
World of Warcraft.
Played it for 2 months.
It was like a 2nd job.
Most of the players, generally either people who like to mine for 13hrs a day, or think getting the new tier of armour, spending half their life getting it, just becasue they'll look cool to all the other players.
Generally i laughed at them.
I Still do.
They waste money on a game that is borderline average. Why need monthly fees with 10+ Million plus players?
The fans of World of Warcraft, ruin what could have been good. With idiotic insults and childish behaviour, with half of the players + 25 and have no form of an outside life.
Unfortutanely thanks to WOW, future MMORPGS will become a thing of the past. Generally due to the fact "Why develop a game, when nobody will play it?" This is becasue of its own popularity. Hopefully someone will deem it illegal to play +] So then WoW will be over. Then we can have some nice MMORPGS +}
Halo on the otherhand, to over-hyped.
Microsoft = Money = Advertising = Kids Getting Hyped = IGN writing amazing review = Big Sales, Overhyped
IGN = Poop
Most people read IGN, everyone goes WOWOWOW
However Halo isn't bad, just average, story bland, but it functions well as a FPS. However, i stopped playing after one due to the poor repetitve level design.
Played it for 2 months.
It was like a 2nd job.
Most of the players, generally either people who like to mine for 13hrs a day, or think getting the new tier of armour, spending half their life getting it, just becasue they'll look cool to all the other players.
Generally i laughed at them.
I Still do.
They waste money on a game that is borderline average. Why need monthly fees with 10+ Million plus players?
The fans of World of Warcraft, ruin what could have been good. With idiotic insults and childish behaviour, with half of the players + 25 and have no form of an outside life.
Unfortutanely thanks to WOW, future MMORPGS will become a thing of the past. Generally due to the fact "Why develop a game, when nobody will play it?" This is becasue of its own popularity. Hopefully someone will deem it illegal to play +] So then WoW will be over. Then we can have some nice MMORPGS +}
Halo on the otherhand, to over-hyped.
Microsoft = Money = Advertising = Kids Getting Hyped = IGN writing amazing review = Big Sales, Overhyped
IGN = Poop
Most people read IGN, everyone goes WOWOWOW
However Halo isn't bad, just average, story bland, but it functions well as a FPS. However, i stopped playing after one due to the poor repetitve level design.
To the guy who said STALKER has bad graphics... what are you playing it on, a 486? Geez.
Now, as for Rainbow Six, that wasn't ruined by its fans, it was ruined FOR its fans, by its developers. The only reason Vegas doesn't suck as horribly as Lockdown did is because the fans and reviewers tore Lockdown to shreds... but Vegas still isn't what long-time Rainbow Six fans want to see.
To be fair, Halo 3 is actually very, very fun if you avoid team games or only play them with friends. In Lone Wolves, it doesn't really matter if you're playing with a bunch of retards, because you treat them the same way as intelligent and polite people; shoot them dead. With friends, you don't even meet the assholes.
Also... a bit off topic... am I the only one who thought Halo 3 was vastly better than Halo 2 in every way (Ok, not in every way, it didn't have enough Arbiter-y goodness for my taste)?
Now, as for Rainbow Six, that wasn't ruined by its fans, it was ruined FOR its fans, by its developers. The only reason Vegas doesn't suck as horribly as Lockdown did is because the fans and reviewers tore Lockdown to shreds... but Vegas still isn't what long-time Rainbow Six fans want to see.
To be fair, Halo 3 is actually very, very fun if you avoid team games or only play them with friends. In Lone Wolves, it doesn't really matter if you're playing with a bunch of retards, because you treat them the same way as intelligent and polite people; shoot them dead. With friends, you don't even meet the assholes.
Also... a bit off topic... am I the only one who thought Halo 3 was vastly better than Halo 2 in every way (Ok, not in every way, it didn't have enough Arbiter-y goodness for my taste)?
Yeah. I call that BoTS Syndrome. I imagine it's been around since before that mod, but that's what I call it. I don't know if any of you have played Quake 2 or Quake 3 Battle of the Sexes or not, but there was this guy that made it who had it perfectly balanced for both games, and then he gave up on Q3 BoTS one day. His reason was because he was sick and tired of everyone complaining about how their class was nerfed or "My sniper rifle isn't fully automatic." So, he released the source files to the mod and said that he would no longer work on the mod because of all the complaints. So, since then, anytime I hear of a similar event, I call it BoTS Syndrome.Bishop99999999 said:
It's just like those FPS players who complain because the sniper doesn't move. "He just sits there and waits to snipe something." No sh*t!!! That's what he's supposed to do.
Most FPS games I would say. I personally think FPS fans are the orcs of the video gaming culture. I think if games like Halo arent given stellar reviews (when they are in many areas pretty mediocre), then it will unite the warring fanbios, and they will engulf the world in a green tide of bitching fanbois and their cries of l33t speak. Plus playing online is to basically be washed away in a sea of juvenile stupidity.
The Elder Scrolls would be another one. I remember playing Morrowind and being absolutely smitten, and then over time, as more and more information came about on Oblivion, the levels of stupid posters at the forums began to grow. While not a complete loss, since it only naturally would surpass Morrowind in many areas, I still consider Oblivion the inferior game in my own opinion. While not entirely the "new" fans fault, I do blame them a little.
Also, though it might not be relevant, I have for a long time considered Final Fantasy games to be the reality TV of the gaming industry. I add Zelda to it as well, as its a stagnant beast that needs to die, yet lumbers on top of the backs of the fans who dont seem to care about how 2 dimensional the entire thing has become. I also failed to recognise the magic in Mario Galaxy. It wasnt bad by any means, but I just dont see why people say its THAT good? Just like with COD4, but I think Im biased there, as I wouldnt piss on the COD franchise, or Medal of Honor, if they were on fire. I dont see them as any different than the year after year sports sims (with COD4 finally stepping into a new area).
The Elder Scrolls would be another one. I remember playing Morrowind and being absolutely smitten, and then over time, as more and more information came about on Oblivion, the levels of stupid posters at the forums began to grow. While not a complete loss, since it only naturally would surpass Morrowind in many areas, I still consider Oblivion the inferior game in my own opinion. While not entirely the "new" fans fault, I do blame them a little.
Also, though it might not be relevant, I have for a long time considered Final Fantasy games to be the reality TV of the gaming industry. I add Zelda to it as well, as its a stagnant beast that needs to die, yet lumbers on top of the backs of the fans who dont seem to care about how 2 dimensional the entire thing has become. I also failed to recognise the magic in Mario Galaxy. It wasnt bad by any means, but I just dont see why people say its THAT good? Just like with COD4, but I think Im biased there, as I wouldnt piss on the COD franchise, or Medal of Honor, if they were on fire. I dont see them as any different than the year after year sports sims (with COD4 finally stepping into a new area).
I agree with you on every point but one. While it is true that it does attract people from every demographic (slacker collegiate here) it is possible to "get through" the game without encountering any of these people, or if you do, effectively ignoring them. I suppose the game can be an acquired taste, and I may be alone in saying this; but i have yet to have had a problem that ruins the game experience by running into the people from those other demographics.DkSeraph said:
Some like Halo and WoW don't need to be mentioned. MMO's are played for different reasons; I, personally, am not a psychotic, badge-whore completionist... I tend to play MMO's to hang out and RP with friends. Yeah, I play MMOs to play and PORTRAY a character. Still play City of Heroes for that reason, and personally I think this game has hurt its fans more than the other way around. People found creative ways to use Archtypes and power sets, and NCSoft nerfs them because they're 'playing the game wrong'. Bad form.
Let's see... Guitar Hero nowadays at least. Can we not cater to the teenaged freaks with crab hands and too much free time?
I agree with Final Fantasy 7, though not with the series in general. Honestly I find the fanbase to be rather harsh on the very series they like, because they demand a lot from it. FF7 you spend half the game playing 'Where In the World Is Sephiroth', rewards you sometimes with a character death or a casino containing a plethora of completely worthless minigames. The rest of the time is a complete dungeon crawl, leveling up and breeding chocobos. And I want to stab everyone in the eyes who say that FF7 had good character development. If that's the case, how come I can't remember anything thought provoking about 95% of FF7 characters, but I can in FF6?
Here's a new one... Grand Theft Auto. Yeah, I said it. I actually like the series (Didn't like San Andreas quite as much), but at the growing ire that some groups had with the level of violence and sex in the games, many of the fans overreacted to the point that it messed with the game's image even MORE. Which of course made it more popular amongst people who shouldn't play it, thus guaranteeing that Rockstar will push the envelope and make the game as juvenile as possible to cater to the lowest demographic. It's not THAT good, and I hope GTA4 goes in as different of a direction as it looks to.
Here's my last one, and I'm guilty of being a big fan of this one: Suikoden. It's a great series with an occasional flawed title (4), but for god's sake stop talking about 1 and 2!! We get it, they were great games... I played them, and I agree. But move on already! I'll be the first to buy those bastards should they be reprinted again, but I'd rather get some decent info on 6 than a re-release right now. 5 came out like two years ago; throw me a bone, Konami!
Let's see... Guitar Hero nowadays at least. Can we not cater to the teenaged freaks with crab hands and too much free time?
I agree with Final Fantasy 7, though not with the series in general. Honestly I find the fanbase to be rather harsh on the very series they like, because they demand a lot from it. FF7 you spend half the game playing 'Where In the World Is Sephiroth', rewards you sometimes with a character death or a casino containing a plethora of completely worthless minigames. The rest of the time is a complete dungeon crawl, leveling up and breeding chocobos. And I want to stab everyone in the eyes who say that FF7 had good character development. If that's the case, how come I can't remember anything thought provoking about 95% of FF7 characters, but I can in FF6?
Here's a new one... Grand Theft Auto. Yeah, I said it. I actually like the series (Didn't like San Andreas quite as much), but at the growing ire that some groups had with the level of violence and sex in the games, many of the fans overreacted to the point that it messed with the game's image even MORE. Which of course made it more popular amongst people who shouldn't play it, thus guaranteeing that Rockstar will push the envelope and make the game as juvenile as possible to cater to the lowest demographic. It's not THAT good, and I hope GTA4 goes in as different of a direction as it looks to.
Here's my last one, and I'm guilty of being a big fan of this one: Suikoden. It's a great series with an occasional flawed title (4), but for god's sake stop talking about 1 and 2!! We get it, they were great games... I played them, and I agree. But move on already! I'll be the first to buy those bastards should they be reprinted again, but I'd rather get some decent info on 6 than a re-release right now. 5 came out like two years ago; throw me a bone, Konami!
Halo 3 was vastly better than Halo 2. I'm surprised you didn't find people who agree with you. Halo 2's multiplayer, imo, depended too much on chances. It turned into a sort of Call of Duty game. If you get the jump on someone, you will almost always win, despite what your skill level is. Iono, I just didn't like Halo 2.ComradeJim270 said:
On-topic
Pikmin fans should have been more exuberant in their clamoring for a sequel. This is a situation where fanboys are welcome. If there were more fans for Pikmin willing to empty their pockets, then Nintendo would have considered making Pikmin 3.
btw-this thread is turning into an "overrated" thread