Xeraxis said:
Nazulu said:
Xeraxis said:
I wasn't going to bother an argument. What point I was trying to make was that, in a sum, the rushed game that is Melee is better comparable to an unrushed Brawl, which leaves it as a backwards delusion.
A backwards delusion? I don't get what you mean by that. All I know is saying that Melee was rushed and Brawl wasn't, in defense of Brawl is a really weak point.
What point I am trying to make is that, usually longer developed games tend to far better than shorter developed ones, for obvious reasons. But we all know that's not always usually the case. (see Duke Nukem Forever)
Delusion was probably not the best word to describe that situation. Apologies.
And I'm not defending Brawl. I think Melee is much better than Brawl as well. I was just making a statement about the development time of each game, its changes, its outcome and reaction by players.
Sorry, being stupid assuming over the internet again. Just don't quote me saying 'Brawl is a good game' and you'll see I'm pretty stable.
I gotta say that I knew they took their time with Brawl since I was waiting about 3 years for it to come to Australia. It was the longest wait and biggest disappointment in my life so far. Even though I hate Brawl, there are some things in it I reckon are great like the Smash Ball idea (even though the moves need more work), the stage editor, how you collect the trophies, the sticker stats, the big ass boss fights (which also could improved a whole heap more), multiplayer events and the music. So I can understand why there are many fans of Brawl but I still think it should be erased and start over or at least redone.
You asked me "what does that tell you?" about the outcome of both Melee and Brawl in different circumstances, and I think it's because of the new system they got around the Wii and how they tapped into the casual market. I remember one of the lead designers saying that he thought Melee was too difficult, and from somewhere else I heard they didn't want to inspire big tournaments with any betting in it so that could explain the nerfing and other crap.