Games you don't like, but respect

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RedDeadFred

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I've never liked HL2 but I respect how important it is for video games.

Uncharted series is another bunch of games that I don't really like but I know they are good and see how they could appeal to others.
 

G-Slice

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Yknow, I love the MoBa series in general and I really respect League for bringing a lot more to the genre in variety. But I just can't play it, I am a hardcore HoN (Heroes of Newerth) player and I find it much more fast paced and the gameplay feels much more rewarding and skill-dependent. I feel regardless of the role if you are a skilled player you can achieve anything, and in addition to this it has a much more flexible meta and there are many more strategies and available options towards winning the game. Same with DoTa 2, respect beyond belief but I just can't play it.
 

AT God

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I have to say Skyrim, the game is very well made and deserves the praise it got, but they did such a terrible job making it fun. I guess if I was stuck playing console games it might have been great but PC offers much more fun open world games.

Bethesda allowing Steam Workshop really makes me respect them more, but I can't get over some of the dynamics.

My other main one is Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. I grew up playing Majora's Mask on the N64, never did get OOT for some reason. Since MM was newer, I never enjoyed playing the older game. I recently played through OOT on a gamecube and while I understand how it was groundbreaking, it was hard to get through. Majora's Mask is even more confusing with the weird 3-Day time limit but I just can't get back in to OOT.
 

Soxafloppin

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The Gran Turismo games. You can appreciate the quality but there not very accessible for the average gamer.
 

Venom 3135

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Mass Effect series and Dragon Age. I, personally, hate those games. I hate the gameplay, the setting, the dialogue, everything. But I can definitely understand why everyone else loves them.
 

SweetShark

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For me it will be Final Fantasy 13.
I nearly hate everything in this game. The world, the characters [not all of them], the linear exploration, the stupid story.
But, as I said I hate the game, the final result that all the people worked in this game. I don't hate the people that nearly worked for 5-6 years in this game.
Even if for me this game is terrible and boring, I respect the effort the developers put to make this game GORGEOUS.
 

Jynthor

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The Elder Scrolls: Arena
I love the Elder Scrolls series and so I tried Arena when it became freeware and it's just... terrible. It's repetitive, tedious and just boring.
But without it would we have ever had the other Elder Scrolls games? So for that I respect it.

In a similar vein I could never get into Daggerfall, but it made the Elder Scrolls series what it is today.
 

m19

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Strategy games, turn based games. I used to like them. Now they just bore me to death. But I respect many of them.
 

Grottnikk

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Mark of the Ninja - I don't like platformer games, but this one looks great and everyone's raving about it.

EVE online - I don't know why, but I just couldn't get into it. I think it's like most other MMOs in that if you don't get in on the ground level, when it starts, then it becomes infinitely more difficult to become a part of it. The barrier to entry is info-overload. What can I do? What SHOULD I be doing? Why? How do I do it? It takes a LOT of time to answer those questions when you come into an MMO years after it has started up, even if it does have a good tutorial.
 

MattAn24

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SweetShark said:
For me it will be Final Fantasy 13.
I nearly hate everything in this game. The world, the characters [not all of them], the linear exploration, the stupid story.
But, as I said I hate the game, the final result that all the people worked in this game. I don't hate the people that nearly worked for 5-6 years in this game.
Even if for me this game is terrible and boring, I respect the effort the developers put to make this game GORGEOUS.
Huh. I was wondering if I'd see a Final Fantasy game mentioned in here.

Bear in mind, this is not an attack, personally or others. I'm merely curious. What exactly did you find "stupid" about the storyline? When you consider the development process, where (much like with FFXII originally having Basch as the main character and being changed to Vaan halfway through development and a lead designer change) Lightning was never really the main focus of the story. The main characters are Fang and Vanille, and to a slightly lesser extent, Sazh.

Fang and Vanille were always l'Cie, before any of the others. They were the cause of Sazh's son, Dajh, coming into contact with a Cocoon fal'Cie, his Focus being to "find the Pulse l'Cie". Yes, the game is incredibly linear and doesn't really open up until you actually get to Gran Pulse, but I personally thought the dynamic of the characters was nice. Vanille's wandering around with Sazh, realizing it's her fault his son is a l'Cie. It's her fault the others are l'Cie. She has to live with that guilt. Then again, that's the *best* thing about the Final Fantasy series. No one game (aside from rare sequels) is "the same". You aren't forced to like any or all of them. It's why, even if I didn't like something about one game, I know there are others in the series. I also know that other people *will* like the things I don't and I can actually respect that too.

Hm.. As for what game I "hated" but respect.. Huh. Good question.
As someone who does primarily play JRPGs (some odd WRPGs or shooters occasionally), I'd say Mass Effect (the whole series). To me, it's a cover-based shooter with some RPG elements tacked on. But y'know, I understand people enjoy it, so more power to 'em! It's also why it concerns me when others berate and insult JRPGs and/or their fans. That said, as a friend noted to me earlier today, the sheer amount of JRPGs coming out this year far outweighs, what seems to be, constant shooters. I guess that's my other "game I hate". Everyone seems to complain about the Wii U's launch line-up.. But seemingly forgets how awful both Sony and Microsoft's launch line-ups were for PS3 and Xbox 360. These days (the longest console generation ever, might I add), Microsoft no longer has any exclusive IPs, unless they're a reboot or sequel of a Halo or Gears of War game (which honestly makes the Xbox look like "the shooter console"), while Sony actually has quite a few original IPs still going. It baffles me how much people go on about a "console war" though. There's no war. Just play what you want to play and leave it at that! Wasn't that hard before the Internet happened. Then again, you also walked into a store and bought a complete, finished product, knowing it's all on-disc, with no tacked on DLC. I mean.. Is it some kind of racial thing these days? The WRPG/JRPG war always happens, so is that why Microsoft (America/The West) and Sony/Nintendo (Japan/The East) fanboys always butt heads?

Sigh.. Why can't more companies/people be more like Valve..?
 

Naeras

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Halo: Combat Evolved
The game wasn't particularly enjoyable for me, but it innovated FPS on console by a significant amount. It's biggest flaw, for me personally, was really that it was still a console FPS, and I don't like to play FPS on consoles.
And please don't bring up the PC port. ._.

Counter-Strike
Great competitive game. I also absolutely loathe it, because being dead for five minutes if someone accidentally headshotted you is boring. I played Unreal Tournament instead for that reason.

Pretty much any Grand Strategy-game, you know, Total War, Civilization, etc.
I quite enjoy the depth of them, and completely understand why people play them. The issue is really politics. I just can't stand having to deal with politics in games. Especially not ones that try to be historically correct, as I suddenly have to bow for the freaking Pope or get a price on my head CUZ GOD SEZ SO.
Ugh.

StarCraft: Brood War
I quite enjoy RTSes. I consider SCBW to be one of the most important games in the genre. Hell, I watch professional SCBW from time to time. It's still got two problems that always got in my way when it came to playing the damn thing: the first of these was the completely unnecessary unit selection cap, which made the game clunky at the best and enraging at worst. The second one was the fact that SC is a macro game. Not anywhere near the level of SC2 in that sense, but macro is still the core skill of that game. I want micro. I want active fighting on the map, rather than amassing units and then having one big fight, which was what low-mid-level games consisted of.
 

SweetShark

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MattAn24 said:
Aaaa....yes...I really love Final Fantasy 12 myself. I dare to say it is my favourite FF game EVER made in PS2.
But here is the thing: I like it for the gameplay and for the Bounty sub-missions this game had, not for the story of the game.
The story of the game would had been a lot better if Basch was the main hero of the story......but no, Japanese people have the nned to have pretty boys that they look like girls for main characters gods know why......

Anyway, I will be very short about Final Fantasy 13, because In the past I created a lot of threads about how bad this game is [for me].
-I never ended the game and I saw the story in Wikia and saw the ending in Youtube. THAT much I hated the game.
-The story........I will be honest here again. I don't remember a sigle thing. Reason? The game itself never bothered to "guide" properly the player in the world to understand why the characters doing these actions. Seriously at some point they say they must go to a place "let go to FELFEFNsomething!!!". As a player I ask "why I must go here? Explain to me game. EXPLAIN!!!". Even the other FF games had to explain to you how the world work. Sure, you had the texts to explain to you, but don't use texts to explain MAJOR things inside the world!!!! BAD IDEA! BAD IDEA!!!
-Vanilla...I just hate her...I want just punch her to her face for being to cute and an the worst anime stereotype I see in many games. The same goes for Lighting. The stereotype of the classic angry woman that only after you play 20-30 in the game [I don't] you will understand why she is like that.
 

Kuomon

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Seeing a lot of the same games crop up. Wonder if it's the kind of players the Escapist attracts or just coincidence.

Anyway, for me it's Super Mario Sunshine. I don't like playing the game (and I presume I'm not alone in this camp) but, damn, is it amazing to see how much it has influenced current game design. Unlike previous Mario games, Isle Delfino is actually a "real" place that makes sense architecturally and geographically. The game relies on cutscenes and variations on the familiar to move the player along. Also, perhaps the most forgotten aspect, Sunshine is the only main Mario game that has an actual plot, as opposed to a setup for the gameplay.

I don't enjoy playing Sunshine but it's hard for me to not appreciate how well crafted that game is and how inadvertedly influential it has become.
 

ElectroJosh

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Starcraft.

By the time it rolled around I had enough of the RTS genre in general. However it was and, as far as I know, still is the best balanced RTS where each of the three sides had a paper-scissors-rock relationship (each side being a bit stronger against one and a bit weaker against the other). The thing was I had played the hell out of Dune 2, Warcraft 1 & 2, Command and Conquer and Red Alert to the extent that I was over the genre when Starcraft came out.
 

Not Matt

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All motion control games. I think they a ridiculous and just plain stupid. But damn it do I respect them. I mean using your body as a
Controller. Brilliant idea.
 

redknightalex

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Father Time said:
The appeal is a combination of
'I get to do whatever the heck I want without real world consequences'
'Inflicting violence amongst other human beings is fun' (oh don't give me that look you must've enjoyed a mutliplayer shooter some time in your life)
'I get to break society's rules and be the bad guy'
'I get to recreate epic chases and shootouts with the police'
and if you're a little sadistic you get to beat people to death
Saying that AI bots, or avatars of people playing a game, is akin to "inflicting violence amongst other human beings" is not just dangerous language in this day of anti-video game rhetoric, but calling it a "fun" thing to do is scary. You're implying that is no difference between AI bots/avatars to real people, for which they are very much separate entities. I have enjoyed MP but the only ones I've played is the co-op horde mode from ME3 and some Assassin's Creed for the trophies. But, let's be clear, killing avatars and killing people are NOT the same. (I'm sure you agree with me on this point except your post said the exact opposite. At least I'm hoping you agree.)

And, honestly, I don't like breaking society's rules on a mass scale, even in video games, or do whatever the hell I want. Playing the criminal is not my cup of tea. I really do prefer the old-school Paladin type of character. But I respect what GTA, as a series, has done for the industry and for the players as a whole.
 

Vhite

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TES: Morrowind
I really tried to get into it many times but I just can't keep on playing...

Also every good horror game ever. I'm coward but I love a good atmosphere.

Honorable mention goes to Dwarf Fortress, I know how to play it (which also means I like it), but even if I didn't, there is so many things to admire about that game. Worlds are created to incredible detail, modding is so detailed that you can create creatures from any limbs of any material, and if thats not enough, create new kinds of limbs and materials.
 

CityofTreez

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Fallout 3:

Shit gameplay, shit audio, shit story, yet I can see what people liked about it. Open world games aren't my favorite, so that might have something to do with it.

Half-Life 2:

I hated. Found it dull, boring, bland. Story was un-interesting and the characters felt like robots. I can't deny what it meant to gaming when it come out, though.
 

Viking Incognito

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My pick is Mirrors Edge. It's just like Yahtzee said, even tough it turned out bad, the innovative and unique concept was something to be admired.