Games you love despite huge flaws

[capin Rob]

MW2

 

[meditator101]

A game I found in a bin called "Giants Citizen Kabuto"

The gameplay was terrible, but it had some of the funniest dialog I've ever seen in a game.

 

[Clueless Hero]

Mirrors Edge. I'm a sucker for stylized visuals. I'm not a sucker for crappy endings/crappy twists and meaningless plots.

Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. While you can't deny it's deeper than the first one, it simply falls flat towards the end and is just a bit more of the same than I'd like to see. Still, I've beaten it 8 times, so...

 

[Jennacide]

Xenogears.

Easily the best JRPG ever, with 2 combat systems that were both genuinely fun, (and served to make you feel like climbing into that giant robot was really something impressive) and one of the best examples of the massive, cinematic, highly linear storyline which (love it or hate it) pretty much define JRPGs, but with enough exploration, interactivity, and sheer scope that you never feel like you're not playing an actual GAME anymore...

...then I went and popped in disc 2.

And while I'm at it, I'm gonna' second all the people who mentioned Bloodlines and KOTOR2.

Haha, oh man, I pretend disc 2 didn't happen. Only one other time have a seen an otherwise fun game come to a crashing halt when you swap discs, at least Xenogears stayed fun despite the horrible transition. The other one, of course, being Star Ocean 3. Once you hit disc 2 the story becomes "lol the matrix", the music goes to hell, the combat becomes no longer fun due to mechanic changes in enemies, and it all goes to shit.

And it's amusing to see pretty much unanimous agreement that Bethesda games are broken to hell but retain fun. (Though I disagree that FO3's story is as bad as some claim)

STALKER SoC

Play it again with Complete 2009, it fixes every single bug and makes the game even better. Stealth actually works and is viable! Sadly, no amount of fixing can change the godawful ending in the CNPP. But that's always the downfall of STALKER games, great gameplay, awful end areas.

 

[Dr_Roxo24]

MW2- i just do

 

[Indecizion]

WoW and morrowind, used to love WoW though i dont play any moar and yeah morrowind was one of my favourite of the original xbox games

 

[Nifarious]

The first two Silent Hills.
Can't stand those controls, but playing it at night with my girlfriend is probably the most real person fun I've had gaming.
Looking forward to when I can play Deadly Premonition for similar reasons.

Fallout's constant glitching makes it runner up, though.

 

[Nifarious]

and then you play on Point Lookout where Ghouls and Hillbillies are unphased by any amount of futuristic weaponry that you throw at them.

 

[kenzu27]

mine would have to be modern warfare 2 it really glitchy with highrise its the most glitched map of all

 

[Srassy]

Yakuza for PS2. The gameplay is clunky as all hell and the game can be defeated using the one combo (except for the hard bonus bosses which require you to have flatout mastered the system) but whacking people with fire extinguishers is that fun, the story is intriguing and the characters are likeable.

Yakuza 2 made the gameplay smoother and the bosses harder but the story isn't as good and the game is just made of Minigame Hell. They're impossible. I haven't properly played the third.

Also Mirror's Edge for every reason that everyone has already posted. Though I love the game enough to have beaten it 9 times. It's quite quick to get through but once you've mastered the game it becomes real fun to show off.

 

[Darth Pope]

*Dons flame suit*

Sonic Adventure 2. In spite of it's flaws,certain things about it just come together and click somehow.

Flame suit unnecessary. Or stupidly necessary possibly. I don't know why Sonic "fans" keep deeming every 3D Sonic game a piece of crap. They're not likely to win any awards, but most of them are built decently. Especially true for Sonic Unleashed I think. I haven't heard any really good arguments against the day sections yet.

I enjoyed SA2 a lot. I didn't have the dedication to A rank everything, but getting stuff for the Chao Garden was fun for a good while after I beat the game.

Your better for it my friend. I've done it, and let me tell you, Mad Space was an exercise in retaining my sanity.

 

[Nikolai Smirnov]

vampire slayer, a hl1 mod bots sometimes are afk, usualy there are people who don't speak english are online, and the constantly jump around and hit you about two times and you die, it was still fun

 

[Saverio]

I love Dynasty Warriors and buy at least one game from each number in the series. Even if they only reach 1% of the potential it's so much fun to play.

 

[Robert632]

As bad as some of the gameplay is, I love Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. I don't even know why.

 

[vaati000]

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It's so... Bad. There are a STAGGERING 14 songs, the thing is a glitchfest, every character moves the same robotic way, the game gets way too easy, the graphics are pretty damn ugly, the weapons are strangely low-tech despite the Jackhammers and such were in Fallout 2... I could go on for hours about the flaws, but with mods it becomes a complete diamond in the rough, and wandering around is so pleasant.

 

[oppp7]

I think this is a repeat thread...
OT: Diablo 2. Why can't you change where you can put skill points? Well, that one they changed a little at least, but it's still only a few times. There's also the problem with customizing characters, as in there isn't any.

 

[SoranMBane]

Fallout 3 was pretty fun all around, but without Broken Steel, the ending is just about the worst kind of ending a game can have.

Spoiler: Spoilers

You've got a choice between being an asshole, a coward, or a martyr; no exceptions, despite the fact that there are plenty of ways the main character could have survived the radiation long enough to turn Project Purity on and then get out of there. It was just plain contrived and stupid.

We've also got Assassin's Creed; lots of fun points, lots of great ideas, but very repetitive. That, and the otherwise awesome character of Altair was voice acted with all the emotion and heart of a lobotomized wooden duck.

Bioshock was also a lot of fun, but the moral choice system was about as badly implemented as it gets, and the game's depiction of Objectivist philosophy makes me think that the writers might have done maybe twenty or thirty minutes of internet research on the topic, at most.

 

[Brainst0rm]

Both of the LoZ DS games. For me, Phantom Hourglass lacked a lot of what I love about Zelda - a good story and miniquests that make the game seem like a complete, self-contained world, but ultimately the triumph of the new control scheme was enough to redeem it. It was also way too easy.

Spirit Tracks: it did all the things I missed in Phantom Hourglass and had some truly challenging final dungeons as well. But there needed to be a way to move about faster when you weren't on a miniquest, as traveling to a town to see *if* there was something to do got plain boring very quickly. And being periodically boring is a pretty huge flaw. But it is one of my favorites of the Zelda series

Seconding: Oblivion, Borderlands, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed.

 

[Outright Villainy]

Mirror's Edge - Terrible choice regarding cut-scenes (didn't fit the overall style and feel of the game), hazy and unclear story and badly explained, too few levels in the story mode... but I completely adore the game.

This would be mine too. The visual style is awesome, the free running thrilling, it just suffers from being too short, having sucky cutscenes/stories/characters/dialogue, and some parts are badly paced. Still love it though.

 

[Godhead]

Silent Hill 2. 'Nuff Said

If you're talking about tank controls, that isn't so much a flaw as an oddly understandable logic: James Sunderland has no military or martial arts training, so it makes sense that he has little more control over his own body than I do over mine.

My answer, without a doubt in my mind, it Final Fantasy 12; pros: massive world, gorgious and varied locations, costomizable A.I., real-time maneuverability, Bach & Baltier; cons: automatic dodging/parrying/blocking, everybody can learn everything, FREAKING VAAN, ripping off Star Wars, and the party leader's Gambits are not automatically turned off.

I was actually talking about the camera, it would be much easier if it would shift angles with the character instead of staying the same when u turn a corner.