Games you refuse to buy because dlc

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I'm a wait for the GOTY sort of guy usually, unless theres an amazing sale on the original game, or if its Nintendo as they don't do GOTY or sales
 

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I just don't buy or use DLCs. Never did, in fact.

Consequently, I judge the game's worth (and so the price I'm willing to pay) based on its content without taking DLCs into account. Either it's worth the price all by itself, or I won't buy it. Simple as that.
 

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Was set to buy MKX day one. Learned about the season pass scam ($30 for, at this point, 4 characters). Have no plans to buy the game now.
 

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Shoggoth2588 said:
If I were to try it, I'd probably get into Hearthstone in a huge way. The problem is that I don't have enough disposable income to indulge in what I'm told is a really not-terrible DLC structure. Other than that, I don't buy fighting games with DLC fighters unless there's a definitive or, complete edition. I loved Street Fighter 2 as a kid but I'll probably never buy a SF on a post-Dreamcast console because of the DLC and whatnot.
From what I've seen of Hearthstone, it's kind of like most other TCG out there. I don't entirely understand the ppl who hate on it because of this, but I can completely understand not playing it because of the business model.
 

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Evolve, definitely. It looked so cool and I really wanted it, but it had DLC up its ass. All the DLC was twice the price of the fucking game. That's a giant fucking pass.
 

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I won't pay more than £10 on any game, including any DLC (There are obviously exceptions to this rule for games that are very interesting to me). This means that I do not consider most games to be released until about 2 years after their official release date when there is a complete edition on sale for about 75% off.
 

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I bought during one if it's early sales, but Payday 2. It's DLC practices have simply gotten waaaaaaaaaay out of control. My main gripe is as someone who doesn't care too much for MP games I bought it thinking the bots would be at least half decent like the first. Nope. They'd rather make another mask DLC for a few quid than add in actual decent bot support.

Yes, I know it was a MP focused game, but so are games like L4D2 and Project Reality, which have great solo support. I mean, hell, the bot's don't even shoot all that well.
 

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Ok no probs. But ya know there is talk already of more DLC characters in MKX Rain being one of them. I think they are seeing how far they can push it because they get away with a lot more than other fighting games in regards to non cosmetic DLC. Unfortunately I dont see them changing their ways basically if you bought the game you have already given them the money any extra is a bonus it just sends the message that you are ok with them cutting bits out of the game to sell em back to you. I cant talk much as I have just bought it (cheaply but still) I also cant see myself getting the DLC but you know the average Joe is gonna buy it especially the Predator DLC.

Most DLC is dick moves though it should have been a means to give us extras but instead it become a means to extort the customer by hacking up a game and selling bits back to them. Still like you said we each have our own breaking point something that bothers one person may not another at least not enough to not buy something anyway. Although I think a lot of people would be happier if DLC went away or at least had to follow some strict rules such as no non cosmetic DLC for a game until at least 6 months after but then that would not sit well with publishers as most people would not be playing after that long.

Shoggoth2588 said:
If I were to try it, I'd probably get into Hearthstone in a huge way. The problem is that I don't have enough disposable income to indulge in what I'm told is a really not-terrible DLC structure. Other than that, I don't buy fighting games with DLC fighters unless there's a definitive or, complete edition. I loved Street Fighter 2 as a kid but I'll probably never buy a SF on a post-Dreamcast console because of the DLC and whatnot.
I personally find Herathstone DLC to be a very bad model just like every other TCG model. I love TCGs (CCGS) but have never played one online for long since the brilliant Microprose editions back in the day of Magic because they just want money off you all the time and without money you cant do crap not even play a deck you want to offline.

SFIV doesnt have much DLC if you bought Ultra you will get all the costumes except for one pack I believe and all the fighters. Costumes really arent necessary and in SFIV there is not that many and they look kinda naff anyway except the animal ones. You will only get the definitive edition once the game is at the end of its (dev supported) life purely because of the nature of the game and how it evolves. Remember how many editions SF2 went through before we got Super Turbo its no different now in fact its probably not as bad because the games are cheaper now back with SF2 it was another 60 quid each time. However while I say this its perfectly understandable that buying almost the same game again to someone who is not that interested in the franchise or into the more technical side of things can be annoying but in that case you dont have to upgrade I only got a couple edition of SF2 back in the day and that did me as I was not interested in the minutiae changes made to balance.

Capcom have made some incredibly dumb decisions but with SFIV their DLC has been pretty fair except for Arcade edition that was crap. Arc and NetherRealms have probably been the two worst for DLC in fighters at least since last gen.
 

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Currently it's Dead or Alive 5: Last Round on PC. I really want to get this game, but if you get ALL the costume DLC it cost like over 5 times as much as the base game does, we're talking like $250+ dollars for costumes. Now some people might say "who cares? they're costumes!" but it's extra fluff like this that I love in a game, and I love it more when it's part of the game's unlockables. Make me work for those costumes in game, make me have to play x character on all stages, or do a perfect round, or execute so many combos in a match or whatever and reward me with it.

I really want to play this game, and I'll feel like without the costumes I am missing a lot of cool content. I mean the game is all about the fighters and decking them out in cool outfits sounds amazing, but charging ridiculous prices for it?

No sale!
 

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Maximum Bert said:
Also I feel ya on Arkham City, once again locking a character sucks. I do believe though that you got her free if you bought the game new which I dont feel is as bad as what MK is doing in which case no matter how you buy the game you aint gettin those characters for nothin (except Goro with preorders only, new ones after dont count).
AC had Catwoman with all new copies, the preorder DLC ones stay around for ages though. We have copies of MKX with the Goro DLC everywhere, hell we still have copies of Crysis 3 with the hunter bow and Arkham Origins with the deathstroke DLC still floating about.

Personally, I'll never touch Evolve, not with the rampant DLC abuse.
 

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baddude1337 said:
I bought during one if it's early sales, but Payday 2. It's DLC practices have simply gotten waaaaaaaaaay out of control. My main gripe is as someone who doesn't care too much for MP games I bought it thinking the bots would be at least half decent like the first. Nope. They'd rather make another mask DLC for a few quid than add in actual decent bot support.

Yes, I know it was a MP focused game, but so are games like L4D2 and Project Reality, which have great solo support. I mean, hell, the bot's don't even shoot all that well.
But you know, the police are decent shots and are able to carry bags, so the tech is there, they're just choosing not to use it. They really want you to play with real people I guess, which is a shame, because some of us don't have many PC gaming friends, and PUGs in this game are particularly atrocious. The cynic in me says that they want you to encourage your friends to buy it just so you can have a decent time...
 

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Most Capcom (fighting) games.

Actually, most fighting games.

Just wait for the GOTY.
Yep. This is one of the best reasons not to get it
snekadid said:
Welcome to the fold.

My latest outrage was last december. I loved Smite, it was a great game, lots of fun and with their pay once get all character forever deal, I thought they were doing a great job. Then their Odyssey event started and they started releasing a bunch of skins and other small cosmetic crap, alot of it really cool. I was even alright with it not being purchasable ever again once the event was over.

Then they released the Thanatos skin. Now, I've played Thanatos on occasion, he's a pretty good assassin, but I wouldn't call myself a "Thanatos player". The skin was amazing, so freaking cool(http://makanops.blogspot.com/2014/12/archon-thanatos.html). But there was a catch, you were only allowed to buy it if you had bought EVERY SINGLE piece of content that was released during the Odyssey event. That was over 80 bucks in transactions before you were allowed to then BUY the skin.

This meant Thanatos players were shafted, they had to pay about 90 dollars for a bunch of crap for gods they didn't want to play (along side profile pics and stupid skins for wards) so they could get the one skin released for their god during the event, and HiRes was pressuring them because it was a limited time only thing.

I haven't played Smite since, I was just so disgusted.
Wow! That's terrible. What were they thinking? I've never played games from that genre, but I assume it's the sort of game where people generally won't be using all of the characters, kind of like fighting games. Anyway, if you've already paid to access the game you shouldn't feel bad about playing it, since you already paid for it, unless the sight of the others caving in and buying the skin ends up upsetting you too much to enjoy it. Otherwise, if you're not giving them any more money then there's really no need to feel guilty about playing it. Your call.
 

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sageoftruth said:
It's not a guilt thing, I'm not all that sure I'm capable of feeling guilt. What it is, is exactly what I called it before, disgust.

If this is the kind of shit they think is acceptable to do to the audience that propelled them to Esports levels in record time, then I just can't stand playing their game and adding to the number of players they can claim.

I just can't justify the slimy feeling I feel playing that game now when I have so many other games that I haven't played yet.
 

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snekadid said:
sageoftruth said:
It's not a guilt thing, I'm not all that sure I'm capable of feeling guilt. What it is, is exactly what I called it before, disgust.

If this is the kind of shit they think is acceptable to do to the audience that propelled them to Esports levels in record time, then I just can't stand playing their game and adding to the number of players they can claim.

I just can't justify the slimy feeling I feel playing that game now when I have so many other games that I haven't played yet.
Ok. Got it. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
 

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baddude1337 said:
I bought during one if it's early sales, but Payday 2. It's DLC practices have simply gotten waaaaaaaaaay out of control. My main gripe is as someone who doesn't care too much for MP games I bought it thinking the bots would be at least half decent like the first. Nope. They'd rather make another mask DLC for a few quid than add in actual decent bot support.

Yes, I know it was a MP focused game, but so are games like L4D2 and Project Reality, which have great solo support. I mean, hell, the bot's don't even shoot all that well.
Yeah, I stopped playing because in an effort to force you to play more online, they made the bots EVEN DUMBER early this year.
If a Cloaker gets you and drops a smoke bomb, that's it. 95% chance the fucking idiot bots won't kill the Cloaker before trying to revive you, which means insta-KO for them too.

EDIT: Oh, and the new SWAT Turrets are absolute bot-butchers because they won't use cover against them like any sensible player would. You have to herd them around and PRAY they don't just casually wander to an exposed area, because if they do (usually while you're busy doing something else, and in Offline you have to do EVERYTHING) they'll stand around getting shot up until incap'd.

I stopped playing shortly after my friends stopped. It wasn't all that fun without them.
After that, what else is there to that game besides more grind and DLC?
 

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Evolve.
Borderlands 2. (Fuck this one so hard. What do you mean these random extra masks and palette swaps are dlc that are all up in my selection area to hotlink me to buy them. Fuck off.)
 

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So far, I think the Mass Effect Trilogy is holding the place of the first in my book... "What do you mean important DLCs 2, 5, and 6 are not part of this collection?"

Other than that, most games that have (or will have) DLC in it do leave me skeptical at times...
The audacity of creating a "definitive edition" without the DLC.

And Bioware still hasn't held a major sale for the DLC of a 2-year-old game. Good job, guys -_-
 

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Shoggoth2588 said:
I'll probably never buy a SF on a post-Dreamcast console because of the DLC and whatnot.
The Japanese dreamcast version of marvel vs capcom 2 requires you to play the arcade version to unlock characters :D.
 

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UltraPic said:
Shoggoth2588 said:
I'll probably never buy a SF on a post-Dreamcast console because of the DLC and whatnot.
The Japanese dreamcast version of marvel vs capcom 2 requires you to play the arcade version to unlock characters :D.
That's actually the kind of thing I really enjoy. I feel like I'm being rewarded when I play Smash or Marvel vs Capcom...I think the US version is the same actually. I remember there being a currency system. If I can just unlock the content by playing the game, I'm fine with that. That's the point of playing after all, isn't it?
 

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The only game that might have come close to this for me was Destiny but I wasn't very interested in that one anyway(bro bought it but it's his money so whatever). Wasn't interested in \volve or Titanfall either for the same reason. No true single player campaign.

DLC has never really bothered me at all. Most of it doesn't feel "integral" to the story to me. The only exception I can think of is maybe Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival for Mass Effect 2 and I love that series (all of it) so much I didn't mind paying for it.

I do want to say that I feel like some of the MKX hate I've seen feels misplaced to me. The dlc to buy everything in the krypt is obnoxious but all it does is alleviate some grind. Same kinda thing with the easy fatality tokens. They do nothing to alter the actual gameplay.

As for characters I do feel like it was weird putting Tanya in story mode but she's clearly a half finished character there at best. She's using Kitana's stance some similar moves and there's no variation functionality like every other character.

Rain, Sindel and Baraka being in story mode is weird too but again they're using the exact same models and movesets from MK9 sans the variation system. Though I'll be honest inthat it wouldn't surprise me much if they did become fully playable at some point.