Gay Gamer Turns Down EA

[Cortheya]

For some reason I can tell that EA aren't gonna use that declined money for something 'worthy'
They're probably gonna use it on a new sports game

They're going to use it to help their evil empire. They lost favor with the peasants recently.
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[Kojiro ftt]

Am I the only one who thinks everyone is overreacting to this whole "acts of lust" contest thing? When did the gaming community become a bunch of grumpy, conservative, old men?

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

Wow, what a prick. So he entered the contest to "prove" that EA was being misogynistic, and when they slapped him in the face by honoring his entry, he turned it down? What point is he proving by doing that besides that he can't take losing that little battle?

 

[Kiutu]

If I ever enter to make a joke/point, I would still be willing to take the prize. I would not enter anything I was not prepaired to win. Though Im pessimistic about winning, but I never want to win the ONE time I would be ashamed or embarrased to do so.
Not saying he was, but still.

 

[Miral]

The guy was right to turn it down, since it wasn't even really a valid entry (the photo was from PAX, not Comic-Con).

It seems like both sides acted honourably, here. It's just ironically amusing.

 

[JWAN]

Just out of curiosity, would this "Sin to Win" debacle be viewed as any less misogynistic (as everyone apparently seems to be required by law to say to even bring said contest up) if a fellow woman decided to, for whatever reason, participate with one of the "booth babes" in double-shaming their gender?

yea, they volunteer to do this job. Its like the people who ***** about Walmart all the time. If they were being so disrespected they wouldn't work there. If the girls didn't want to be dressed in mini skirts and knee high boots with v neck shirts they wouldn't be there. What about the Maserati(or any for that matter) girls at the Detroit auto show? Same thing, different product. Now sense Detroit is run by the most P.C people in government I wonder if that will change.

While you're correct that the booth babes do sign up for the job, I guarantee you that they had no part in designing this contest and therefore never had the opportunity to say they'd rather not take part. They agreed to do a job -- stand in a booth, hand out pamphlets -- and found out that they'd been made part of a "sin to win" contest. Pretty shabby treatment, in my book.

In this country when you go for a job you first need to know what your getting yourself into, that is given in the job description. If its not in the description you have the legal right to refuse to do that _______ (fill in blank with job or task). I have to say the best way to settle this is ask the models to see if they volunteered to do this position. Any further speculation on either of our parts is just guessing.

As far as Im concerned, your a model, you want to be half naked and stand around as a sex object, you get what you ask for. When "Abacrombie and Fitch" hired men to stand outside their store's without shirts I don't recall any women (or gay men) that ran to their aid to help them from being exploited. And because this guy didn't help out in that case does that make him a sexist? No, he probably enjoyed being in a mall around half naked men. That was ok to him because he was attracted to men THE same way men are attracted to good looking women.

Bottom line:
You do the job that you signed on for, it matters not what the project was because it fell within the lines of their description, why would a company like EA screw themselves like this willingly. If its not in the description don't do it unless you want to.

 

[cobra_ky]

believe me, i can argue for gay rights until i'm blue in the face, but do we really need to inject politics into this? can't we all come together, as a community, and agree that this is just funny as hell on a number of levels?

 

[CrafterMan]

What a waste of time for both him and EA. Did he do that purely to be able to give them a slap in the face if he won?

Boycott would have been more logical.

Personally, I would have entered the contest, then made my "Wild night out with two booth babes" a leisurely coffee at a cafe followed by the museum and a ballet. Something intelligent.

Hahaha good call mate, would of been very ironic.

-Joe

 

[Loop Stricken]

Guess what? I don't care about his opinion. Apparently someone fund it humorous and when he submitted it he knew what he was doing.

If he cant handle the repercussions of his actions then he shouldn't have acted that way.

I really don't see the issue here. Other than the guy is a prick for winning and not doing anything with the prize, why doesn't he go and do something with the prize if it was so damn important to him to make a statement? If hes complaining about getting 2nd place tell him to take the gay drama queen act to someone who cares.

Oh good, so it's not just me who reckons he sounds like a jumped-up tool who feels the world should cater to his unnatural whims.

 

[Flos]

Well, good for him. It was a stupid contest that encouraged idiots to harass women. I'm glad he declined the prize.

Nice to see somebody sticking up for people who aren't male and straight.

 

[samsonguy920]

Just out of curiosity, would this "Sin to Win" debacle be viewed as any less misogynistic (as everyone apparently seems to be required by law to say to even bring said contest up) if a fellow woman decided to, for whatever reason, participate with one of the "booth babes" in double-shaming their gender?

yea, they volunteer to do this job. Its like the people who ***** about Walmart all the time. If they were being so disrespected they wouldn't work there. If the girls didn't want to be dressed in mini skirts and knee high boots with v neck shirts they wouldn't be there. What about the Maserati(or any for that matter) girls at the Detroit auto show? Same thing, different product. Now sense Detroit is run by the most P.C people in government I wonder if that will change.

While you're correct that the booth babes do sign up for the job, I guarantee you that they had no part in designing this contest and therefore never had the opportunity to say they'd rather not take part. They agreed to do a job -- stand in a booth, hand out pamphlets -- and found out that they'd been made part of a "sin to win" contest. Pretty shabby treatment, in my book.

QFT, Susan. It would shock me out of my pants if EA ever came up with some promotion or contest that didn't demean someone or was just plain stupid. Seriously, they need to fire their publicity department for either coming up with this stuff, or letting it happen.
Kudos to PixelPoet for taking this approach. True it might have been weak, but anything more would have been just as juvenile as what EA was trying to get people to do.
Cute as those booth babes can get, I would just as soon see them cut from conventions. If I'm going to a convention, it's either to meet authors, artists, or check out the games that are just over the horizon. If I want babes in latex, can just take a taxiride later to a stripclub. Any company that thinks they need skin and curves to draw attention to themselves is obviously feeling they aren't getting attention for other reasons. Which is probably a good reason that they aren't.

I SO [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/7.127007.2685437] called this

Cookie for you. Unless the marine guy is supposed to be the booth babe?

 

[Dommyboy]

I SO [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/7.127007.2685437] called this

...

One of these days Mike, one of these days!

 

[megapenguinx]

I'm glad he stuck to his principles and declined. His idea was great though +1 for the LGBT community.

 

[SirCannonFodder]

Bahaha, this is fantastic. Both sides acted brilliantly, EA for calling out this guy's bluff, and the gay guy for sticking to his principles and not accepting the prize from a sleazy contest. Good show all-round.

 

[Hamster at Dawn]

For some reason I can tell that EA aren't gonna use that declined money for something 'worthy'
They're probably gonna use it on a new sports game

Don't be stupid, EA don't spend that much on their sports games.

 

[Kermi]

Wait, he got picked and says he hopes the random drawing wasn't random, because EA needed to single him out to appeal to a broader audience? Wouldn't it be healthier if it actually WAS random and they ran with it anyway, despite their allegedly rampant misogyny?

I hate affirmative action.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

That's actually really really funny. I wonder if it was a matter of EA subverting his protest, or if they genuinely found it funny and original enough to place him as runner-up.

Hey, it's a great deflection technique. If I were EA, I'd do it.

 

[Lifelight]

Just out of curiosity, would this "Sin to Win" debacle be viewed as any less misogynistic (as everyone apparently seems to be required by law to say to even bring said contest up) if a fellow woman decided to, for whatever reason, participate with one of the "booth babes" in double-shaming their gender?

yea, they volunteer to do this job. Its like the people who ***** about Walmart all the time. If they were being so disrespected they wouldn't work there. If the girls didn't want to be dressed in mini skirts and knee high boots with v neck shirts they wouldn't be there. What about the Maserati(or any for that matter) girls at the Detroit auto show? Same thing, different product. Now sense Detroit is run by the most P.C people in government I wonder if that will change.

While you're correct that the booth babes do sign up for the job, I guarantee you that they had no part in designing this contest and therefore never had the opportunity to say they'd rather not take part. They agreed to do a job -- stand in a booth, hand out pamphlets -- and found out that they'd been made part of a "sin to win" contest. Pretty shabby treatment, in my book.

In this country when you go for a job you first need to know what your getting yourself into, that is given in the job description. If its not in the description you have the legal right to refuse to do that _______ (fill in blank with job or task). I have to say the best way to settle this is ask the models to see if they volunteered to do this position. Any further speculation on either of our parts is just guessing.

As far as Im concerned, your a model, you want to be half naked and stand around as a sex object, you get what you ask for. When "Abacrombie and Fitch" hired men to stand outside their store's without shirts I don't recall any women (or gay men) that ran to their aid to help them from being exploited. And because this guy didn't help out in that case does that make him a sexist? No, he probably enjoyed being in a mall around half naked men. That was ok to him because he was attracted to men THE same way men are attracted to good looking women.

Bottom line:
You do the job that you signed on for, it matters not what the project was because it fell within the lines of their description, why would a company like EA screw themselves like this willingly. If its not in the description don't do it unless you want to.

In this country it's also illegal to engage in any form of sexual harrasment on the work floor. Just because these models' job is to model the clothes of a specific game character, does not mean they forgo common courtesy and respect. The "they dressed slutty, so they were totally asking for it" argument is baseless, shortsighted and implies that men cannot control their urges. It is not the victim's fault.
Yes, they're there to be oggled at. They know many will want to take pictures with them. All of this does not mean they are 'asking for more'. Treat them with respect, it is just their job to model a character.

Nice job @ GayGamer declining the prize and replying to EA with a well thought-out response.

 

[Triple AD]

For some reason I can tell that EA aren't gonna use that declined money for something 'worthy'
They're probably gonna use it on a new sports game

Don't be stupid, EA don't spend that much on their sports games.

Okay then fair enough Silly me I meant they're gonna spend it on a new security system designed to annoy the living socks out of you

 

[DeathQuaker]

Just out of curiosity, would this "Sin to Win" debacle be viewed as any less misogynistic (as everyone apparently seems to be required by law to say to even bring said contest up) if a fellow woman decided to, for whatever reason, participate with one of the "booth babes" in double-shaming their gender?

yea, they volunteer to do this job. Its like the people who ***** about Walmart all the time. If they were being so disrespected they wouldn't work there. If the girls didn't want to be dressed in mini skirts and knee high boots with v neck shirts they wouldn't be there. What about the Maserati(or any for that matter) girls at the Detroit auto show? Same thing, different product. Now sense Detroit is run by the most P.C people in government I wonder if that will change.

While you're correct that the booth babes do sign up for the job, I guarantee you that they had no part in designing this contest and therefore never had the opportunity to say they'd rather not take part. They agreed to do a job -- stand in a booth, hand out pamphlets -- and found out that they'd been made part of a "sin to win" contest. Pretty shabby treatment, in my book.

In this country when you go for a job you first need to know what your getting yourself into, that is given in the job description. If its not in the description you have the legal right to refuse to do that _______ (fill in blank with job or task). I have to say the best way to settle this is ask the models to see if they volunteered to do this position. Any further speculation on either of our parts is just guessing.

As far as Im concerned, your a model, you want to be half naked and stand around as a sex object, you get what you ask for. When "Abacrombie and Fitch" hired men to stand outside their store's without shirts I don't recall any women (or gay men) that ran to their aid to help them from being exploited. And because this guy didn't help out in that case does that make him a sexist? No, he probably enjoyed being in a mall around half naked men. That was ok to him because he was attracted to men THE same way men are attracted to good looking women.

Bottom line:
You do the job that you signed on for, it matters not what the project was because it fell within the lines of their description, why would a company like EA screw themselves like this willingly. If its not in the description don't do it unless you want to.

In this country it's also illegal to engage in any form of sexual harrasment on the work floor. Just because these models' job is to model the clothes of a specific game character, does not mean they forgo common courtesy and respect. The "they dressed slutty, so they were totally asking for it" argument is baseless, shortsighted and implies that men cannot control their urges. It is not the victim's fault.
Yes, they're there to be oggled at. They know many will want to take pictures with them. All of this does not mean they are 'asking for more'. Treat them with respect, it is just their job to model a character.

Nice job @ GayGamer declining the prize and replying to EA with a well thought-out response.

Well said, Lifelight.

I am utterly boggled at the revelation of how many people do not understand the basic concept of, "Look but don't touch"

and, "Be respectful to each other."

What someone is wearing is NEVER a reason to be disrespectful. And certainly is never an excuse to allow criminal acts (e.g., workplace sexual harrassment) to be performed with them.