While I get the idea you're getting at, if things were to be disproportionate, where would it stop? I feel like if things were allowed to get so out of hand, there wouldn't be differentiation between various laws. Baron Underbheit declared the death penalty for all infractions of Underland law. The thing your saying just sounds to me like an issue as x approaches infinity.FaceFaceFace said:And to answer the question, unless I'm missing something the only reason I see why small crimes don't have inordinate punishments is that most punishment systems are based on proportionate retribution, and my entire point is that disproportionate punishments would be far more effective.
And obviously, no, J-walking and littering should not equal death, but there is a distinct and easily maintained difference between theft or violence and disobeying civil regulations, like those or speeding or solicitation. Crimes like those are differentiated in today's world by fines vs. jail time, and they would be differentiated in a world where disproportionate penalties were normal.
Little unfair Panzer, Saudi isn't that bad.Lord_Panzer said:Move to Saudi Arabia if you want unrealistic and completely disproportional punishment for petty crimes.
brickz said:This was something posted on 4chan about the topic, "We are not our IPs. We are not our Computers. We are not our fucking porn folders.
We are not real consumers, and we never watch commercials. We don't want to be rock gods, and movie stars because we know what shallow hollow fucked lives they truly have.
We do have a great depression. We do have a great war. It is the information war and our fight is the fight of trying to get the corporations dicks out of our ears. We want to get the movie business balls out of our eyes and not cringe when we see a ridiculous price tag for something that should be free.
Our enemies are people who live abnormal lifestyles due to the abnormal paychecks they receive for something they love. Loving art should not be condemnable, and rebellion has pushed history forward. Sometimes in darkness, sometimes in light, but whenever it's in the name of knowledge, it can never be toward the dark.
So fuck you Tyler Durden, Fuck you that guy from kiss with the tongue, fuck you MPA, fuck you labels, fuck you studios.
You do NOT have the right to fuck up lives because they wanted music and art. You do NOT have the right to fuck up lives because they did something when they didn't disagree, instead of just whining and being raped.
You CANNOT fuck up people when they DO NO HARM except delay your deluxe swimming pool filled with jello and sharks with lazers a few more months.
WHAT YOU DO, IS NOT WORTH WHAT YOU MAKE.
Michelangelo wasn't wealthy. Beethoven was poor. Mozart was poor. Leo Da Vinci was rich by birth not by his art.Most artists lived in poverty and they were gods who shaped the world.
YOU ARE NONE OF THESE YET YOU EXPECT TO LIVE BETTER THAN THEM.
We are not anon, because you know us. We're your fucking FANS. And we don't take kindly to your kind."
and i believe it 100%, gene Simmons cant win, even with the FBI with him he cant stop piracy only hinder it. this makes me proud to be anonymous
Would you believe me if I said "no"?Travis Higuet said:Awwww is being a worthless thief not against your's?Hawkeye16 said:Travis Higuet said:I don't like nameless faceless weasels who think that other people's private property is free to take simply because they want it. I hope the FBI crushes these worthless sacks of animal waste. I know that total success just isn't possible, but I'll bet we can get a lot of douchey kids who are involved in jail where they can whine and ***** about the corporate "MAAAAN" trampling the same civil liberties they are so quick to write off for others when they stand in the way of their immediate desires.
Awww what? Is downloading music against your Paladin code or something?
What shall they do with his address and phone number(and how the h*** is his address a secret hes a rockstar dont they all live in extravagant mansions?) and he should care about his website so much it might make him angry but idk... also i doubt he'll lose a sponsor over a sex tape. Of course thats using my brain gene simmons might care.BlackStar42 said:They already have his address and phone number. They found a sex tape of him. His website is still down. They're sending his little girlfriend jibe to every LGBT organisation they can find, and to Dr. Pepper. That could result in him losing a sponsor and costing him millions of dollars. Your move, Mr. Simmons.zero_blahs said:I dont see how anon can win all they can do is hack his sites and find out his info and some secrets maybe? But paparazzi already do this to celebs? gene could prolly get 4chans site down and reduce some of the population of anon. so its really not much of a contest :/ *throws popcorn away* not a popcorn worthy event and btw your allowed to say whatever you want on the internet but your not allowed to take down someones site for it.
seriously all you people backing anon how can anon do anything to gene?
in spite of previous efforts to maintain a true neutral stance on the topic... I find myself applauding as well... well played, gentlemen. I present to you the thought of an owl with a top hat and monocle. Someone put a picture to my words!blakfayt said:*also rises and begins to clap*tonyl said:brickz said:This was something posted on 4chan about the topic, "We are not our IPs. We are not our Computers. We are not our fucking porn folders.
We are not real consumers, and we never watch commercials. We don't want to be rock gods, and movie stars because we know what shallow hollow fucked lives they truly have.
We do have a great depression. We do have a great war. It is the information war and our fight is the fight of trying to get the corporations dicks out of our ears. We want to get the movie business balls out of our eyes and not cringe when we see a ridiculous price tag for something that should be free.
Our enemies are people who live abnormal lifestyles due to the abnormal paychecks they receive for something they love. Loving art should not be condemnable, and rebellion has pushed history forward. Sometimes in darkness, sometimes in light, but whenever it's in the name of knowledge, it can never be toward the dark.
So fuck you Tyler Durden, Fuck you that guy from kiss with the tongue, fuck you MPA, fuck you labels, fuck you studios.
You do NOT have the right to fuck up lives because they wanted music and art. You do NOT have the right to fuck up lives because they did something when they didn't disagree, instead of just whining and being raped.
You CANNOT fuck up people when they DO NO HARM except delay your deluxe swimming pool filled with jello and sharks with lazers a few more months.
WHAT YOU DO, IS NOT WORTH WHAT YOU MAKE.
Michelangelo wasn't wealthy. Beethoven was poor. Mozart was poor. Leo Da Vinci was rich by birth not by his art.Most artists lived in poverty and they were gods who shaped the world.
YOU ARE NONE OF THESE YET YOU EXPECT TO LIVE BETTER THAN THEM.
We are not anon, because you know us. We're your fucking FANS. And we don't take kindly to your kind."
and i believe it 100%, gene Simmons cant win, even with the FBI with him he cant stop piracy only hinder it. this makes me proud to be anonymous
"stands..." "claps" kinda made me crap with joy not gunna lie...i applaude you good sir
Yes, fuck yes, this all this, every single scrap of this, personally I think someone needs to teach these million dollar an hour making rich fucks a god damn lesson in humility. I officially like Anon in this fight.
I was already 100% for anonymous, but now I'm 200%, this is all so true. One of the best walls of text on the INTERNET *applauds*blakfayt said:*also rises and begins to clap*tonyl said:brickz said:This was something posted on 4chan about the topic, "We are not our IPs. We are not our Computers. We are not our fucking porn folders.
We are not real consumers, and we never watch commercials. We don't want to be rock gods, and movie stars because we know what shallow hollow fucked lives they truly have.
We do have a great depression. We do have a great war. It is the information war and our fight is the fight of trying to get the corporations dicks out of our ears. We want to get the movie business balls out of our eyes and not cringe when we see a ridiculous price tag for something that should be free.
Our enemies are people who live abnormal lifestyles due to the abnormal paychecks they receive for something they love. Loving art should not be condemnable, and rebellion has pushed history forward. Sometimes in darkness, sometimes in light, but whenever it's in the name of knowledge, it can never be toward the dark.
So fuck you Tyler Durden, Fuck you that guy from kiss with the tongue, fuck you MPA, fuck you labels, fuck you studios.
You do NOT have the right to fuck up lives because they wanted music and art. You do NOT have the right to fuck up lives because they did something when they didn't disagree, instead of just whining and being raped.
You CANNOT fuck up people when they DO NO HARM except delay your deluxe swimming pool filled with jello and sharks with lazers a few more months.
WHAT YOU DO, IS NOT WORTH WHAT YOU MAKE.
Michelangelo wasn't wealthy. Beethoven was poor. Mozart was poor. Leo Da Vinci was rich by birth not by his art.Most artists lived in poverty and they were gods who shaped the world.
YOU ARE NONE OF THESE YET YOU EXPECT TO LIVE BETTER THAN THEM.
We are not anon, because you know us. We're your fucking FANS. And we don't take kindly to your kind."
and i believe it 100%, gene Simmons cant win, even with the FBI with him he cant stop piracy only hinder it. this makes me proud to be anonymous
"stands..." "claps" kinda made me crap with joy not gunna lie...i applaude you good sir
Yes, fuck yes, this all this, every single scrap of this, personally I think someone needs to teach these million dollar an hour making rich fucks a god damn lesson in humility. I officially like Anon in this fight.
'scusemewhat? Jeeze, you guys really take your #2 world export seriously don't you.The_root_of_all_evil said:Little unfair Panzer, Saudi isn't that bad.Lord_Panzer said:Move to Saudi Arabia if you want unrealistic and completely disproportional punishment for petty crimes.
And £2million fine for nicking Harry Potter books, we can't really talk.