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[CriticalGaming]

...Okay so not only BL4 practically guaranteed to be $80, but did he just basically said "Don't like it, don't play it?"

He has to be one of the worst PR person I've ever seen

People still pretending games haven't really been $100 for years now? Between the gold and platinum version with the extra horse testicle?

Games have been the same fucking price since the 90's, eventually inflation was going to catch us. Please stop crying about this people.

Also let's not pretend that video games don't have the fast price decay out of any other media. That $80 game will be $60 in a couple months, or cheaper if the game is bad.

Let's put into perspective the expense of gaming versus any other form of entertainment. Going to a sporting event will cost hundreds of dollars for the worst available seats. Going to a concert will cost the same. Going to a movie costs about half the price but only lasts two hours and you'll likely need dinner before or after which will make it more expensive. Going to a draft night for a tabletop card game will cost you $40 and you probably wont get any exciting cards to take home by the end of it.

So $80 you get a game that goes for 20-50 hours, and you can replay it forever, whenever. So still a good deal and if the increase in price means you get less games per year, then choose wisely or wait for sales. It's really not that big of a deal.

 

[BrawlMan]

Still bullshit either way, and I don't blame people for not purchasing this or other games at that price. Especially when most AAA publishers continually remove extra modes and features that were in the game to begin with, and selling back to us as DLC.

Yet I can find plenty of newly released indie and AA at 1/2 or 2/3 the price and get more replay value out of those than the majority of AAA gaming.

 

[FakeSympathy]

People still pretending games haven't really been $100 for years now? Between the gold and platinum version with the extra horse testicle?

Games have been the same fucking price since the 90's, eventually inflation was going to catch us. Please stop crying about this people.

Also let's not pretend that video games don't have the fast price decay out of any other media. That $80 game will be $60 in a couple months, or cheaper if the game is bad.

Let's put into perspective the expense of gaming versus any other form of entertainment. Going to a sporting event will cost hundreds of dollars for the worst available seats. Going to a concert will cost the same. Going to a movie costs about half the price but only lasts two hours and you'll likely need dinner before or after which will make it more expensive. Going to a draft night for a tabletop card game will cost you $40 and you probably wont get any exciting cards to take home by the end of it.

So $80 you get a game that goes for 20-50 hours, and you can replay it forever, whenever. So still a good deal and if the increase in price means you get less games per year, then choose wisely or wait for sales. It's really not that big of a deal.

Fair enough, but as @BrawlMan pointed out, It really is about how much you are getting out of for $80. I think people are not really upset about the price, but rather for the fear of not getting much out of the game with that price.

Given BL always has been about loots and gears, you can theoretically keep playing for hours to get that piece you are looking for. But that is only if you like doing that, and that will determine whether $80 is truly worth it.

I certainly have been playing BL series for the hilarious writing, which is why BL3 was such a let down. And given that and how Randy acts like a madman.... It doesn't exactly give me too much hope; Maybe later when it goes on a sale

 

[BrawlMan]

Fair enough, but as @BrawlMan pointed out, It really is about how much you are getting out of for $80. I think people are not really upset about the price, but rather for the fear of not getting much out of the game with that price.

Given BL always has been about loots and gears, you can theoretically keep playing for hours to get that piece you are looking for. But that is only if you like doing that, and that will determine whether $80 is truly worth it.

I certainly have been playing BL series for the hilarious writing, which is why BL3 was such a let down. And given that and how Randy acts like a madman.... It doesn't exactly give me too much hope; Maybe later when it goes on a sale

Not to mention that $80 is just going to be the new shell price for most AAA as Sterling mentioned way back in the late 2010s. Fuck that shit. Aside from Capcom, Sega, ansmd sometimes Sony, I have no reason to bother these. Even then i'm still not paying, if they go for the $80 up charge.

 

[CriticalGaming]

Fair enough, but as @BrawlMan pointed out, It really is about how much you are getting out of for $80. I think people are not really upset about the price, but rather for the fear of not getting much out of the game with that price.

Given BL always has been about loots and gears, you can theoretically keep playing for hours to get that piece you are looking for. But that is only if you like doing that, and that will determine whether $80 is truly worth it.

I certainly have been playing BL series for the hilarious writing, which is why BL3 was such a let down. And given that and how Randy acts like a madman.... It doesn't exactly give me too much hope; Maybe later when it goes on a sale

I mean you can say that about any game. Hell you can say that about any piece of entertainment.

If you're a sports fan and you go to see your team, but they lose or your favorite player doesn't even play. Then did you get anything out of it?

If you go to a movie and it turns out to be shit then did you waste the money?

It can happen with anything. At least with video games you can wait for reviews and look at gameplay online before you decide that it's something you're willing to spend that money on.

$80 is still more than fair of a price for a game that appeals to you, the difference is that what appeals to you will be different for everyone. $80 might be a shitty price for BL4, but maybe it's a fine price for GTA 6 or God of War 7, or whatever.

The bottom line is that the initial price isn't nearly as big of a deal as people want to make it seem. I get it, nobody likes a price hike, but we are long overdue for one and like i said before the price decay on video games happens very fast. So it isn't much of a wait before the game is cut down to whatever price you personally fine acceptable for it. Everyone has games they'll buy at full price, and then there are those you might buy at 70, and others you'll buy at 40, and others you might never buy, or some you'll get for free on the epicstore. Whatever.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Plus like, space is infinite yo.

In space, nobody can hear you make your bed.

...Okay so not only BL4 practically guaranteed to be $80, but did he just basically said "Don't like it, don't play it?"

He has to be one of the worst PR person I've ever seen

S'okay, Randall. I can find a way to wait until it's free on the Epic Game Store, just like I did with BL3!

 

[Elvis Starburst]

I get it, nobody likes a price hike, but we are long overdue for one

I have a feeling the anger towards the price hike wouldn't be so bad if we didn't skip the $70 price tag so quickly. There wasn't a whole lot of time to get comfortable with the last price hike people had to deal with compared to how long we had $60 games for, and then we get a few specific players in the video game world saying "our next title will be $80" and everyone knew that most companies were going to jump at the chance to join in and do the same.
Note that this does not run counter your stated points. I'm just making note of what I've observed in terms of opinion

 

[CriticalGaming]

I have a feeling the anger towards the price hike wouldn't be so bad if we didn't skip the $70 price tag so quickly. There wasn't a whole lot of time to get comfortable with the last price hike people had to deal with compared to how long we had $60 games for, and then we get a few specific players in the video game world saying "our next title will be $80" and everyone knew that most companies were going to jump at the chance to join in and do the same.
Note that this does not run counter your stated points. I'm just making note of what I've observed in terms of opinion

Well back when that was becoming a thing I pointed out that games being $70 was already pretty common and long standing at the time. The industry for whatever reason kept tip toeing around havin some $70 games and some $60 dollar games since the SNES.

When the next gen hike to $70 was happening, we also got a wave of games being totally Free to Play as well. Which I feel sort of overshadowed any of that.

 

[Samos205]

I'm already paying $70-80(nzd) for games. Some ps5 games are already pushing $100+. If the game industry goes ahead with bumping up the price to 80usd, I'm going to be paying roughly $130+(nzd) for games, and there's no way I'm spending that on a base game with no extra addons or anything. Its just not worth it. I haven't even bothered with a console this generation because they're just way too costly for me to afford. There's also the disc drive issue, but that's a separate topic. Actually partially related, but with the push for digital games as opposed to physical, combined with dev's trying to claim you don't actually own the game (The crew, for example) why would I even consider paying 80+ for something I don't own (despite paying for) and who's servers you can just turn off.

I can make the argument that some games are okay with being $80, so long as there's $80 worth of content/value in it. CoD is not worth $80 for example.

Also let's not pretend that video games don't have the fast price decay out of any other media. That $80 game will be $60 in a couple months, or cheaper if the game is bad.

Black ops 1/MW remastered are $70 on steam
Every other CoD is still $108 on steam
None of those games are worth that price point.
Another example:
My little pony: A maretime bay adventure
This game was retailing for about $70 when it released. I grabbed it on sale for $10, and was able to beat the game to %100 completion in roughly four hours. If i'd paid 70 for that, I'd have felt ripped off.

The other thing to consider, are battlepasses/Microtransactions. Something like GTA 6 is going to infested with sharkcards if GTA V was anything to go buy. $80 for a game is one thing, 80 for a game that is going to continue to try to fleece me for as long as they can is another thing

 

[BrawlMan]

Fair enough, but as @BrawlMan pointed out, It really is about how much you are getting out of for $80. I think people are not really upset about the price, but rather for the fear of not getting much out of the game with that price.

BTW, I shared that link you posted, and I put it on Space Battles Forums @FakeSympathy, and no one is happy about that price, and feels it's a huge overcharge. At least two users said they will pay $5 for it years later.

The other thing to consider, are battlepasses/Microtransactions. Something like GTA 6 is going to infested with sharkcards if GTA V was anything to go buy. $80 for a game is one thing, 80 for a game that is going to continue to try to fleece me for as long as they can is another thing

Exactly why the industry can continue to go fuck itself. Not to mention Critical's arguments are part of the fucking problem and he's making pathetic excuses for the industry's greed.

 

[CriticalGaming]

The other thing to consider, are battlepasses/Microtransactions. Something like GTA 6 is going to infested with sharkcards if GTA V was anything to go buy. $80 for a game is one thing, 80 for a game that is going to continue to try to fleece me for as long as they can is another thing

GTA 5's main campaign and game didn't have microtransactions. That was strictly for the online mode.

Unfortunately we lost the war on that. So the only thing you can do is just not buy games that have those things. You can't control others so just do what you feel is right when it comes to your purchases.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Loyalty program PlayStation Stars getting scrapped July 23:

PlayStation Stars coming to a close as SIE evaluates new ways to evolve future Loyalty Program efforts

Qualifying Points redeemable until November 2026.

blog.playstation.com

 

[BrawlMan]

Loyalty program PlayStation Stars getting scrapped July 23:

PlayStation Stars coming to a close as SIE evaluates new ways to evolve future Loyalty Program efforts

Qualifying Points redeemable until November 2026.

blog.playstation.com

On my birthday. Good thing I never signed up for it.

 

[BrawlMan]

70% of games that require internet get destroyed.

26% of games are saved through fan projects, only 4.8% of games are preserved by the developers or publishers.

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[FakeSympathy]

In an uncontroversial move that will bother no one, Lies of P is getting an easy mode

It'll also get other new modes in a free update, when its Overture expansion drops.

www.pcgamer.com

Ehh, w/e. People who enjoys challenge can keep the difficulty setting, while those who wants a less stressful experience can turn it on by their own choice. Sort of like how in Doom Dark Ages parry window and other difficulty setting can be adjusted.

Honestly, when that article about "Sekiro should have an easy mode" was released, I think people got way too invested in the argument.

 

[BrawlMan]

AAA and their pawns of scared of indie games now.

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[FakeSympathy]

SNAKE EAATTEERRRR!!!!!

If this is Konami's way of trying to make up for MGS3 Pachinko and Metal Gear Survive, they are seriously winning me over.

 

[Ezekiel]

SNAKE EAATTEERRRR!!!!!

If this is Konami's way of trying to make up for MGS3 Pachinko and Metal Gear Survive, they are seriously winning me over.

Somehow, they made it even worse. More spoilers than before and flatter vocals and chorus.

Was never a positive of the original. The lyrics were always dumb and the singer was never very good.

 

[BrawlMan]

SNAKE EAATTEERRRR!!!!!

If this is Konami's way of trying to make up for MGS3 Pachinko and Metal Gear Survive, they are seriously winning me over.

Pretty cool opening.

A live-action Elden Ring movie from A24 and Alex Garland is in the works

It's real: Garland is writing and directing it, and George RR Martin is involved.

www.pcgamer.com

 

[FakeSympathy]

Somehow, they made it even worse. More spoilers than before and flatter vocals and chorus.

Was never a positive of the original. The lyrics were always dumb and the singer was never very good.

I see. The original version IS a very unique opening compared to other games in the series. Maybe that's why it got, and still gets, so many attention, for many reasons?