Gentlemen, Is chivalry dead?

[archvile93]

I would say not. I am always chivalrous when out with a lady, and they always seem surprised to see it, which is good for me =)

Chivalry is just disguised chauvanism. I hope it dies.

Nay, young impetuous rogue. It shall outlast your snap judgment. Also, good sir, I would be less than chivalrous were I to ignore the opportunity to educate you in the ways of spelling lexicon that finds it roots in French Language; Observe: not chauvanism, but chauvinism. From the french figure Chauvin.

I really don't care how chauvanism is spelled. Also, read the rest of my post.

You had not posted anything other than the above quote by the time I remarked on it's short-sighted nature. You should care how words are spelled. At least use a spell-check if you don't want to take the time to learn

Do you really think I'm so obsessive compulsive that I'm going to type the word in...well, Word before posting it here just to see if I got the spelling right?

If you do not have the confidence to spell words correctly then..... yes, check the spelling and learn from the correction. Since when is educating oneself in their own language classified as a mental disorder?

When I have to type it in to word for some reason then I'll hit the damn spell check. I'm not going to open word and type a single word into just to see if I spelled it right, especially when I'm on the internet where nobody cares and you're lucky if you find someone that even uses proper grammar.

 

[Mr Godfrey]

I wish it wasn't, I miss chivalry. These days, odd as it is, chivalry is looked down upon by the majority of women to the point where even the truest of gentlemen are embarrassed to hold a door open.

 

[Ampersand]

All chivalry aside if someone accused me of being sexist just for doing something nice for someone i'd be tempted to round-house kick them. However i'd probably settle for kindly asking them not to be stupid.

 

[Imp Poster]

My chivalry has become metrosexual. I do it for both women and men if needed. It doesn't bother me for some reason.

 

[mrx19869]

no but it did get replace by equal womens rights..

 

[astrav1]

As long as I'm alive, Chivalry will stay, as unwanted as it is.

 

[IkeGreil29]

Well, I can tell you my female friends consider me a gentleman. I don't think chivalry is so much dead as rather... both condoned by some women, as you say, and also just sent down the tube by males who can't be bothered. I mean, it IS much more easy to be an ass. It IS easier to not care. I feel, however, that all in all, I am a man of chivalry, and it has rewarded me beyond belief with great friends. Also, most women that are not stuck in inferiority complexes will tell you that being a gentleman and chivalrous is the way to go.

I, sir, am a geek gentleman. Forever.

 

[jbchillin]

It's not fully dead but since everything under the sun is sexist its impossible to please people

 

[Jacob.A.]

Chivalry is dieing out but because everyone, mainly girls don't expect or want it to happen and when it does it seems and looks very wired because, they think, that usualy the chivalrous man will want something out of it (wink-wink).

 

[Maze1125]

There's a simple rule to chivalry. When you're doing something that would stereotypically be called "Gentlemanly" ask yourself this: "Would I be doing the same if the person in question was a man?"

If the answer is yes, you're fine.
If the answer is no, you're being sexist.

I love and respect woman, however I believe them to be above us lowely men,

In other words, you're a complete and total sexist.

 

[Zero_ctrl]

There's a simple rule to chivalry. When you're doing something that would stereotypically be called "Gentlemanly" ask yourself this: "Would I be doing the same if the person in question was a man?"

If the answer is yes, you're fine.
If the answer is no, you're being sexist.

I love and respect woman, however I believe them to be above us lowely men,

In other words, you're a complete and total sexist.

Generally chivalry is between a man (AKA the Gentleman) and a lady.
Chivalry between men is...something else.
I don't quite know the right word for it.

 

[Lombax302]

chivalry isn't dead, just hard to find nowadays

 

[The Bum]

Well, i'm very Chivalrous because no.1 All the women i know are really frickin scary. 2. I'm nice like that.

 

[MadeinHell]

Now please, dont get me wrong. I have very liberal values, of course i support feminism, everyone's equal.

Just to point out. Feminism is NOT about equality (not nowadays). It is often wrongly considered to be but that's actually not true. Feminism while at it's core was supposed to move women to an "even" or "equal" level with men quickly became a form of dominating males and increasing the good being of females.
I personally stand for equalism. Male or Female, similar laws. Having greater laws than "the other side" is NOT being equal.


Also NAY! Chivalry is not dead!
Etiquette and socially acceptable behaviours are in some places but chivalry is still where it used to be.
You just need to remember that while one of the most memorable, the "Gentlemen" were never a really big group. It used to be a group of intellectuals with proper education in a world filled with people barely being able to read. Their higher educational standards allowed them to get a better social standing (not always) thus exhilarating them to rank of "the elites". Just the way you always learn about the kings in history lessons but barely ever about the poor peasants.

 

[The Bum]

There's a simple rule to chivalry. When you're doing something that would stereotypically be called "Gentlemanly" ask yourself this: "Would I be doing the same if the person in question was a man?"

If the answer is yes, you're fine.
If the answer is no, you're being sexist.

I love and respect woman, however I believe them to be above us lowely men,

In other words, you're a complete and total sexist.

You know i never got the whole Don't open doors for me thing why are you getting so angry over pepole acting nice?

 

[BENZOOKA]

As long as husbands want sex from their wives after totally pissing them off, chivalry will live on.

A valid point.

OT: I've been taught good manners and I do use them. Therefore I consider myself as a gentleman of sort. Even the last two most gentlemanish things I remember doing to different girls, kind of sealed me getting some, on both times.

 

[Baconmonster723]

Chivalry is just disguised chauvanism. I hope it dies. You shouldn't be polite to somebody because they're a woman, you should be polite to everybody who's not an asshole because it's the right thing to to do.

You're off but I understand what you're saying. Chivalry was more a code guided towards a knight, someone of great power and stature, using both for the benefit of the poor and downtrodden. It wasn't all about women. Chivalry was as much a guide to using your power for good than anything else. A Chivalric Knight was a knight who used his abilities to protect those who could not be protected, to safeguard those who were threatened, and if need be die to save innocents. The respectful treatment of women was just one of the many facets of the chivalric code.

-To fear God and maintain His Church
-To serve the liege lord in valour and faith
-To protect the weak and defenceless
-To give succour to widows and orphans
-To refrain from the wanton giving of offence
-To live by honour and for glory
-To despise pecuniary reward
-To fight for the welfare of all
-To obey those placed in authority
-To guard the honour of fellow knights
-To eschew unfairness, meanness and deceit
-To keep faith
-At all times to speak the truth
-To persevere to the end in any enterprise begun
-To respect the honour of women
-Never to refuse a challenge from an equal
-Never to turn the back upon a foe

That is a true chivalric code. As you can see, the respectful treatment of women was but one small facet of the code itself. If one wishes to decry Chivalry they must decry all facets. Some are not totally necessary anymore in today's day and age, for the most part the religious facets. However, the code still stands.