Nazism is illegal in Germany, as is the swastika and many other symbols of the Nazi party(outside of museums, of course).Blue-State said:John Stewart and John Oliver are going to be so bummed on Monday night. I'm actually glad we both lost because then Oliver would have been insufferable. It's rather petty of the English to go back to that tired stereotype. The Germans have been pretty well behaved for the last 65 years.
We have more Nazis in America than in Germany.Deiphagia said:I know people at school who think World War 2 is still going on, so they automatically brand Germany and anything German with "Nazi".
Which is ironic because my school is full of NeoNazis.
I'm not kidding.
Oh and BTW RUN DUDE!
The thing is, you have to understand how just how bad the conditions were in Germany after the signing of the Treaty of Versailles.Syn_UK said:Give this man a medal, I can't believe it took this many posts before somebody raised this point! Hitler was Austrian and it has been 65 years since the war ended but Hitler was democratically elected by the German people and they tolerated/were slightly complicit in his earlier crimes whilst they could still do something about it. It certainly doesn't mean the current generation of Germans should be held to account for that, but that is the (justified) explanation for the association of the Nazis to Germany.Captain Pancake said:Even though Hitler was Austrian, it was Germans who put him in a position of power. Remember that next time you try to de-affiliate the Nazis from Germany, even though it did happen in the past it's still a part of their history.
Also, I don't think it's really fair that some people have tried to compare the Holocaust to the actions of the colonial empires, or any other historical atrocity. What the Nazis did is the greatest scar in humanity's history and my very definition of the word 'evil'. Various groups commit crimes based on political or religious motivations but nobody has ever demonstrated the inhumanity and sadistic actions of the Nazis. It has happened once, it can happen again and needs to remembered forever so that it can be prevented.
Thats more than what Great Britain owed for the Lend Lease Act, which I believe was just over 1 billion pounds (I could be wrong). We (Britain) only just paid that off in 2006.The total sum of war reparations demanded from Germany?around 226 billion Reichsmarks?was decided by an Inter-Allied Reparations Commission. In 1921, it was reduced to 132 billion Reichsmarks (then $31.4 billion, or £6.6 billion).
A German author has expressed the view that Germany would not finish paying off its World War I reparations until 2020.
Its along way to fly to get stabbedJroo wuz heer said:I cant afford to fly there, sorrymurphy7801 said:please do the routine above in ManchesterJroo wuz heer said:Serioli said:I am not being paid a bajillion pounds a year to do either better or worse.its not football its soccersimilar.squirrel said:Football acts as an excellent catalyst for idiocy and xenophobia.
and theyre not pounds, theyre dollars, why cant you guys speak real english? instead of, you know english english
(JK)
OT: one word: DOUCHES
I doubt anyone in Manchester with a kitchen knife handy has even heard of the word 'douche' and yet I suspect that being foreign alone would still conclude similarly.murphy7801 said:Its along way to fly to get stabbedJroo wuz heer said:I cant afford to fly there, sorrymurphy7801 said:please do the routine above in ManchesterJroo wuz heer said:Serioli said:I am not being paid a bajillion pounds a year to do either better or worse.its not football its soccersimilar.squirrel said:Football acts as an excellent catalyst for idiocy and xenophobia.
and theyre not pounds, theyre dollars, why cant you guys speak real english? instead of, you know english english
(JK)
OT: one word: DOUCHES
douche is commonly used in England and no I ment foot ball pounds joke also it has one highest crime rates in the UK. Though nothing compared to your lovely Baltimore.Tankdown said:I doubt anyone in Manchester with a kitchen knife handy has even heard of the word 'douche' and yet I suspect that being foreign alone would still conclude similarly.murphy7801 said:Its along way to fly to get stabbedJroo wuz heer said:I cant afford to fly there, sorrymurphy7801 said:please do the routine above in ManchesterJroo wuz heer said:Serioli said:I am not being paid a bajillion pounds a year to do either better or worse.its not football its soccersimilar.squirrel said:Football acts as an excellent catalyst for idiocy and xenophobia.
and theyre not pounds, theyre dollars, why cant you guys speak real english? instead of, you know english english
(JK)
OT: one word: DOUCHES
1. not german but my ex girlfriend is from Germany and she didn't care.Zac Smith said:In recent light of the England defeat by Germany 4 - 1 earlier today, facebook was alive with insults aimed at Germany, usually on the lines of "God damn Nazi *Insert swear word here*"
Now I have 2 question I'd like to ask
1. To any German residents, do you find this sort of insult offensive, considering it's something that happened around 70 years ago and was more to do with a political party rather then a specific country.
2. Secondly why does Germany get all the prejudice countries like Japan, Italy, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Finland, Iraq and Thailand were all affiliated with the Nazi party. How is it fair that a single country and its people get blamed for the actions of a few?
At first I thought he meant all Nazis are Germans but your probably right.rokkolpo said:nice school you went to.LOLYOULOSEGIRL said:All Germans are Nazi's though? That's what my school taught me.
many Germans disagreed with Hitler. but they couldn't do a damn thing about it. there were even German families taking in Jew fugitives.
but i probably took your post to seriously![]()
You cannot assert that america was better off. The english who came to america probably were, but even that is subjective. A culture was eventually all but destroyed, can't really call that better in my opinion. I can't speak for India, never been there, nor really africa. But I do know that dutch interfearance in africa inflamed the hatred between two qroups of african peoples (Hutu's and tutsi's?) so us dutch fucked that shit up, doubt english did much better with thier african territories.Stooo said:Fucking up half the globe? I'd guess this is a dig at Iraq or Afghanistan. Yeah maybe but half the globe maybe stretching it a tad. If you're throwing Africa and India in there then they were mostly left better than they were, America certainly was.evilthecat said:Personally, I'm glad England are out.. If it means the tards of this country will stop blowing their vuvuzelas and hogging bandwidth on iplayer so they can watch a bunch of overpaid, adulterous semi-morons kicking a ball I'm happy. Until the days when such people are prescribed mandatory ritalin, it's a start.
Regarding history.. If you're English and you're proud of your history, I despair. The recent bits basically come down to fucking up half the globe, developing the concentration camp and burning lots of German civilians from the air. Being patriotic shouldn't mean endorsing racism and mass murder, you'd be horrified if Germans did that so don't do it yourselves.
Concentration camps? Boar war i assume you're referring to but these types of camps have been around for a very long time but just not named as such, can?t compare to the Germans death camps which were far more nasty (hence the name)
Burning German civilians from the air? That kind of went on from both sides. The catalyst was a British bomber dumping its bombs and hitting civilians. Hitler started the blitz at this point so you can call that 1 for Germany.
I am proud to be British, proud of its history and proud to have served in the forces for a good chunk of my life. If you feel ashamed then hand in your passport on your way out and make room for the rest of us.
"No government can survive without the consent of the governed" or something like that. No idea who said it anymore, maybe jefferson.Diamondcrackingcock said:1. I am an American jew, so i'm usually not referred to as a nazi.
2. All of those countries played a role in the war, so they all deserve some form of disgrace. It was also not the actions of a few, it was the actions of millions of brainwashed Europeans and Japanese who blindly followed Hitler because of his oratory skills and threats. Hitler was an excellent speaker, and even jews who went to rallies and experienced it first hand were swept up by it. I understand that most of the Europeans living today did not cause the devastation, so I only judge and insult the Germans in the various documentaries about the war. I won't go up to a German or Japanese person who is not racist and had no involvement in the war and insult them, although it is possible that the grandparents probably deserved to be insulted for what they may have done. Japan was just as cruel as Germany, and although they did not murder on the massive scale that the nazis did, they were just as racist, performed scientific experiments, engaged in forced death marches, and did things I won't even begin to describe. I would like to be a historian or college history professor at some point, so I try not to judge those who had no role in the war. However, all of those involved in those heinous war crimes and all neo nazis deserve the insults and hatred. So no, calling Germans nazis because they won a soccer game isn't right.
Subjective, for some, the greater scale of what was done in Germany overcomes the increased cruelty found in Japan. Not sure which side of that debate I would be on, I would need more info.The Singularity said:Well my Facebook status was more along the lines of "God damn Nazis, allow goddamn instant replay in the game!" but I was referencing more of the rule Nazis that refuse instant replay in baseball, soccer and other sports. People think of Germany as Nazis because it was where the most extreme and most documented acts of horror by Nazis were committed.(Except for Japan, they actually did the worst things in the war, especially to Chinese.
Study history a little more. The Holocaust was neither the only nor even the largest genocide in human history. I don't have any accurate info about rowanda, or any other african genocide, but I have heard it is on a much much greater scale. Stalin killed around 21 million if i remember correctly. The ottoman empire drove several million armenians into the desert to starve to death, 15 million i think. It is a fact of human history, we are a violent people who will persecute and kill those who are different at the slightest provocation. turns out i cant find my source anymore, so none of it is reliable, but you guys are in front of a computer, if you care that much about specifics, use google.Syn_UK said:Give this man a medal, I can't believe it took this many posts before somebody raised this point! Hitler was Austrian and it has been 65 years since the war ended but Hitler was democratically elected by the German people and they tolerated/were slightly complicit in his earlier crimes whilst they could still do something about it. It certainly doesn't mean the current generation of Germans should be held to account for that, but that is the (justified) explanation for the association of the Nazis to Germany.Captain Pancake said:Even though Hitler was Austrian, it was Germans who put him in a position of power. Remember that next time you try to de-affiliate the Nazis from Germany, even though it did happen in the past it's still a part of their history.
Also, I don't think it's really fair that some people have tried to compare the Holocaust to the actions of the colonial empires, or any other historical atrocity. What the Nazis did is the greatest scar in humanity's history and my very definition of the word 'evil'. Various groups commit crimes based on political or religious motivations but nobody has ever demonstrated the inhumanity and sadistic actions of the Nazis. It has happened once, it can happen again and needs to remembered forever so that it can be prevented.
I know, I was half joking in my post. My point was that, in the minds of most British people, we DID beat the nazis. And besides, being involved in WWII is the only important thing we have been involved in in the last 80 years, so a lot of people cling to it as hard as they can. It's why the BNP use Spitfires and Churchill on their website and why there were posts like "We won where it mattered" on Facebook. Britian is a shadow of it's former self, so we are obsessed wtih former glories.Ultratwinkie said:you didnt beat the nazis, the russians did. all england ever did was sit around.Crayzor said:Because we're British, and beating the Nazis is all we have.