German...Nazi

[skitzo van]

Shit like this has been going on for a loooong time, I have both German AND Jewish heritage, and I still get called a Nazi...

 

[srm79]

The thing is, as wrong as the Nazis were, I refuse to see them as Evil. Not all Nazis were in on the whole murdering aspect, many were simply normal men and women trying to give thier country a brighter future.

The old "say what you want about Hitler, but at least the trains ran on time" joke, huh? Doesn't wash I'm afraid when it was a core belief of the party that the Germans were a superior race to everyone else and that mass genocide against the slavic, jewish and various other peoples was just A-OK.

On a side note did you know that:
Austria is German too (not all Germans joined the German Nation)?

No I didn't. I did, however, know that the Austrian Empire had already been around for a good while before Germany was first unified following the Franco-Prussian war in 1871.

That Gypsys are the actual Aryans?

So it's not in fact derived from the Latin Arianus which refers to, originally, peoples of Northern India and the Persian Gulf region? Doesn't sound much like the Gypsies that live behind the local supermarket in touring caravans to me...

That the Swastika is a Hindu Peace Symbol?

In Hinduism it represents the evolution of the Universe. It has appeared in various cultures as far back as 3,000BC, usually with no major significance on its own. All utterly inconsequential though, as its use by the Nazis during a 12 year reign of murder, suppression, genocide and war more or less rendered it to western civilisations as a symbol of hate.

English evolved from German?

Mostly Celtic, Saxon, Angle, Roman Latin, Viking and French languages actually, although there is a slight smattering of German about it. The language structure is more similar to German, but look at the population (and more importantly cultural) movements across Europe during and in the centuries following the Roman Republic and later Empire, and that's hardly surprising. Not exactly accurate to claim one "evolved" from the other though. Our current Royal Family is of German origin, although "evolved" might be a somewhat generous term to apply there.

OT: The police are investigating the possibility that someone may have soundproofed Hadrian's Wall. This follows phone calls from 5 million Scots to say that it has gone rather quiet over there... ^_^

 

[Thisbedutch]

Because we're British, and beating the Nazis is all we have.

you didnt beat the nazis, the russians did. all england ever did was sit around.

Oh shi-

 

[Danpascooch]

Welcome to the internet, it's full of offensive racial stereotyping.

 

[Spacelord]

Because we're British, and beating the Nazis is all we have.

Don't sell your country short, your meat pies are pretty good too.
[small]beer sucks though sorry[/small]

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

why is it that when someone says Germany at least one person will think 'Nazis', that was 70 years ago Germany's changed since then

Same reason we get told we have bad teeth and complain about the weather constantly. The French smell of garlic and eat horses. The Americans...well, I'm sure anyone here who's been on the Internet for more than a week can spill a whole load of those.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

I associate Nazism with Austria...

It seems more appropriate to me than Germany.

 

[oppp7]

2. Because stereotypes are fun! Now lets go laugh at some fat, racist Americans.
OT: Germany was the leader, I guess.

 

[Megacherv]

Because we're British, and beating the Nazis is all we have.

Now, listen hear Sonny Boy!

*long intangible rant*

You also fought the Spanish Armada and Napoleon!

Until recently you owned 3/4 of the globe!

It was 1/4...and that was made from a method of evil, murder and flags...

 

[murphy7801]

Because we're British, and beating the Nazis is all we have.

Don't sell your country short, your meat pies are pretty good too.
[small]beer sucks though sorry[/small]

We make really good cider though

 

[spartan231490]

1) Of course it's offensive, anyone can see that.
2) Might have something to do with germany's "offiliation" with the nazi party being that they ellected a president from said party who went on to gain powers similar to martial law in said country, and try to conquere several other countries whilst having several thousand people killed in truely horible, ways. Or maybe not, who knows?

 

[murphy7801]

Because we're British, and beating the Nazis is all we have.

Now, listen hear Sonny Boy!

*long intangible rant*

You also fought the Spanish Armada and Napoleon!

Until recently you owned 3/4 of the globe!

It was 1/4...and that was made from a method of evil, murder and flags...

but lad we ruled the seas as well

 

[Necrofudge]

Would yelling at Austria make you feel better?

 

[RebelRising]

1. I'm not from Germany, but I'd imagine that it would be somewhat offensive.

2. Because 99% of the world affiliate Nazis with Hitler, because he was the leader of the party, and since he's German, they instantly gravitate to hating the German part of the Nazis.
That's just what I think.

Irony is, he wasn't even German, he was Austrian. Speaking of which, the entire Second World War could have been avoided if Hitler had made it into a prestigious art school in Vienna, but they thought his work was crap so they rejected him, prompting him to pursue a career in politics instead of art. Weird thing is, if you look up some of his stuff, he was actually a really good artist. That art school must have been pretty damn exclusive to reject Hitler after seeing some of his work...

Then again, Van Gogh was always rejected and his work was dismissed as being a load of crap, and now he's arguably the most respected and successful painter in history...

I think the idea was that he was really good with architecture (which you can believe, given his infatuation with it during his leadership; I forget the name, but one of his closest friends was the Nazi head architect), but he was crap with drawing people. Also, because he wanted to be an artist and avoid a career as a civil servant like his father was, he deliberately shunned his academic studies. His only good classes were art, and history, which was taught by a fanatical German nationalist. Figures. His scores were bad enough that they could reject him solely on that.

Which is a shame, because the Weimar Republic was consciously trying to make things better. The Third Reich could have been avoided if Hitler had pursued his artistic passions. Sure, he probably still would've been an nti-Semite, but like his idol Wagner, he could have been one that contributed beauty instead of war and genocide (just for argument's sake, his revival of German military, economy, and pride don't count as contributions, because the Republic was already trying to work towards that goal in a democratic capacity).

 

[murphy7801]

The thing is, as wrong as the Nazis were, I refuse to see them as Evil. Not all Nazis were in on the whole murdering aspect, many were simply normal men and women trying to give thier country a brighter future.

The old "say what you want about Hitler, but at least the trains ran on time" joke, huh? Doesn't wash I'm afraid when it was a core belief of the party that the Germans were a superior race to everyone else and that mass genocide against the slavic, jewish and various other peoples was just A-OK.

On a side note did you know that:
Austria is German too (not all Germans joined the German Nation)?

No I didn't. I did, however, know that the Austrian Empire had already been around for a good while before Germany was first unified following the Franco-Prussian war in 1871.

That Gypsys are the actual Aryans?

So it's not in fact derived from the Latin Arianus which refers to, originally, peoples of Northern India and the Persian Gulf region? Doesn't sound much like the Gypsies that live behind the local supermarket in touring caravans to me...

That the Swastika is a Hindu Peace Symbol?

In Hinduism it represents the evolution of the Universe. It has appeared in various cultures as far back as 3,000BC, usually with no major significance on its own. All utterly inconsequential though, as its use by the Nazis during a 12 year reign of murder, suppression, genocide and war more or less rendered it to western civilisations as a symbol of hate.

English evolved from German?

Mostly Celtic, Saxon, Angle, Roman Latin, Viking and French languages actually, although there is a slight smattering of German about it. The language structure is more similar to German, but look at the population (and more importantly cultural) movements across Europe during and in the centuries following the Roman Republic and later Empire, and that's hardly surprising. Not exactly accurate to claim one "evolved" from the other though. Our current Royal Family is of German origin, although "evolved" might be a somewhat generous term to apply there.

OT: The police are investigating the possibility that someone may have soundproofed Hadrian's Wall. This follows phone calls from 5 million Scots to say that it has gone rather quiet over there... ^_^

well strictly there Prussian which was half in Poland half in Germany these days.

 

[murphy7801]

Would yelling at Austria make you feel better?

Hay does anyone blame the Austrians like the Germans get it no not really so maybe they could do with take some German flak.

 

[Stone Wera]

1. I'm not from Germany, but I'd imagine that it would be somewhat offensive.

2. Because 99% of the world affiliate Nazis with Hitler, because he was the leader of the party, and since he's German, they instantly gravitate to hating the German part of the Nazis.
That's just what I think.

He wasn't though, he was Austrian?

Maybe so, but I bet if you ask the average person they'll say that he was German.

When I was a kid I thought he was from Argentina.

 

[murphy7801]

1. I'm not from Germany, but I'd imagine that it would be somewhat offensive.

2. Because 99% of the world affiliate Nazis with Hitler, because he was the leader of the party, and since he's German, they instantly gravitate to hating the German part of the Nazis.
That's just what I think.

He wasn't though, he was Austrian?

Maybe so, but I bet if you ask the average person they'll say that he was German.

When I was a kid I thought he was from Argentina.

He have good tan might suit the tash better

 

[murphy7801]

Because people tend to be easily provoked, intolerant idiots.

yet London is the most multicultural city on the planet. Ah the irony of modern England.