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Dervillian

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I`m german and I hoped Germany would loose today, because I was curious what would happen. After Italy beat Germany 4 years ago there was pure-hate towards Italians. It`s sad that a game causes people to show their racist and intolerant side.
 

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Zac Smith said:
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1. I'm not from Germany, but I'd imagine that it would be somewhat offensive.

2. Because 99% of the world affiliate Nazis with Hitler, because he was the leader of the party, and since he's German, they instantly gravitate to hating the German part of the Nazis.
That's just what I think.
He wasn't though, he was Austrian?
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hitler was Austrian
beaten to it ><
He became a German citizen in 1932.
 

BlumiereBleck

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Zac Smith said:
In recent light of the England defeat by Germany 4 - 1 earlier today, facebook was alive with insults aimed at Germany, usually on the lines of "God damn Nazi *Insert swear word here*"

Now I have 2 question I'd like to ask

1. To any German residents, do you find this sort of insult offensive, considering it's something that happened around 70 years ago and was more to do with a political party rather then a specific country.

2. Secondly why does Germany get all the prejudice countries like Japan, Italy, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Finland, Iraq and Thailand were all affiliated with the Nazi party. How is it fair that a single country and its people get blamed for the actions of a few?
1. You get used to it. 2. Cause they helped us a bit
 

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Mr.Wiggles said:
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Because we're British, and beating the Nazis is all we have.
Now, listen hear Sonny Boy!

*long intangible rant*

You also fought the Spanish Armada and Napoleon!

Until recently you owned 3/4 of the globe!
You forgot the fish and chips! What are we without our fish and chips?!?
 

Skarvig

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I'm from Germany. It depends on the situation. If someone on a social network just makes such a statement, then I don't care. But if someone especially directs that statement at me, then it is offensive.
 

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Personally, I'm glad England are out.. If it means the tards of this country will stop blowing their vuvuzelas and hogging bandwidth on iplayer so they can watch a bunch of overpaid, adulterous semi-morons kicking a ball I'm happy. Until the days when such people are prescribed mandatory ritalin, it's a start.

Regarding history.. If you're English and you're proud of your history, I despair. The recent bits basically come down to fucking up half the globe, developing the concentration camp and burning lots of German civilians from the air. Being patriotic shouldn't mean endorsing racism and mass murder, you'd be horrified if Germans did that so don't do it yourselves.
 

Cakes

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Bran Mugen said:
I'm talking about the structure man, the structure! Take a look at some basic Learn German Language stuff and you'll see what I'm talking about.
English and German share a language family, but saying that English 'evolved' from German is incorrect.
 

Tom Phoenix

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Trivun said:
Radeonx said:
1. I'm not from Germany, but I'd imagine that it would be somewhat offensive.

2. Because 99% of the world affiliate Nazis with Hitler, because he was the leader of the party, and since he's German, they instantly gravitate to hating the German part of the Nazis.
That's just what I think.
Irony is, he wasn't even German, he was Austrian. Speaking of which, the entire Second World War could have been avoided if Hitler had made it into a prestigious art school in Vienna, but they thought his work was crap so they rejected him, prompting him to pursue a career in politics instead of art. Weird thing is, if you look up some of his stuff, he was actually a really good artist. That art school must have been pretty damn exclusive to reject Hitler after seeing some of his work...

Then again, Van Gogh was always rejected and his work was dismissed as being a load of crap, and now he's arguably the most respected and successful painter in history... :D
This is a popular myth, but it isn't true. Hitler wasn't rejected on the basis that he was bad. Infact, one could hardly call it a rejection, since the guy evaluating his work advised him he would be better off studying architecture. It is generally acknowledged that while Hitler wasn't very good at drawing people, he was very good at drawing buildings. Hitler actually agreed with the guy and tried pursuing such studies, but he couldn't afford it.

Besides, even if he were accepted and joined the art school in Vienna, it wouldn't have made the slightest bit of difference. Hitler was indoctrinated with nationalistic ideals from a very early age. Combined with his disdain for the multi-cultural Austro-Hungarian empire, it would have still prompted him to volunteer into the Bavarian army at the onset of World War I. From there, he would have ended up experiencing what he (and many militaristic political elements at the time) considered the "backstabbing of Germany" and this would have then further prompted him into politics.

Simply put, Hitler's attempts at art studies are completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. He was simply the wrong man at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Anyway, even at the time when Hitler was in power, not all Germans were Nazis and it is dumb by people to proclaim all of them as such. Nevertheless, the National Socialist party was unique to Germany. The right-winged elements in other countries were more similar to Italian fascism than the German model.
 

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It was a pretty big moment in history so I guess the "Nazi" label will stick to them for some time. We all know they've changed, but when I'm pissed off I admit I use this corelation as well. It's just ..there..it's easy to say it. Not proud of it.
 

The Grim Ace

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People are stupid. That is a sad fact but it is an ever increasingly apparent fact. I do comend you on at least acknowledging the other countires involved with such things, but, those comments had far less to do with hating only the Germans than it did with passions running as high as ever for the World Cup.
 

Vredesbyrd67

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Understand that about 90% of Germany wanted Hitler gone after he became Chancellor. Their equivalent to MacArthur, Rommel, even took part in the plot to assassinate him, though at first he was against assassination because he was afraid it would make Hitler a martyr and start a civil war between Austria and Germany.

When you're mad at a group of people, you reach for the easiest insult. They're still paying for Nazism and Hitler 60 years on and they probably still will for the rest of the century.
 

Commissar Sae

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Trivun said:
Radeonx said:
1. I'm not from Germany, but I'd imagine that it would be somewhat offensive.

2. Because 99% of the world affiliate Nazis with Hitler, because he was the leader of the party, and since he's German, they instantly gravitate to hating the German part of the Nazis.
That's just what I think.
Irony is, he wasn't even German, he was Austrian. Speaking of which, the entire Second World War could have been avoided if Hitler had made it into a prestigious art school in Vienna, but they thought his work was crap so they rejected him, prompting him to pursue a career in politics instead of art. Weird thing is, if you look up some of his stuff, he was actually a really good artist. That art school must have been pretty damn exclusive to reject Hitler after seeing some of his work...
The main reason they rejected his art is that it was too traditional. The art community in the 1920s and 30s was all about making art that expressed emotion rather than technical skill. So you got Picasso, Kandinsky and a slew of other artists who, while brilliant, painted what amounts to unrecognizable blobs of chaos. This led Hitler gain an intense hatred for 'degenerate art' and he spent quite a bit of time either burning such paintings or setting them up as grotestque displays.

OT: Well it's pretty much been said already, but basically it boils down to insulting them in any way possible.
 

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Crayzor said:
Because we're British, and beating the Nazis is all we have.
Nooo, you held the line, us Americans did all the dirty work.

Nahhh, just kidding with you. Both of our country did an equal part.

On topic, Yeah, its nationalistic alright, but I don't find it offensive, I just block/report and move on.
 

dark_paladin_Quest

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I meet lots of German people (as you do working in a London Backpackers Hostel) and i find many Germans can be very casual about Nazi Jokes, they understand that ti was in the past and are fine with others making jokes to them about it, as long as it is not said in a derogatory manner.
 

Escapefromwhatever

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My friends regularly call me a Nazi because I have blonde hair, blue eyes, and am of German descent. It does start to get on my nerves, so I really could see this being problematic for actual Germans (like my grandmother)- I'm American, by the way.
 

gamerguyal

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This has more to do with most Americans' god complex than with the Germans. It's unbelievable how many of my fellow Americans seriously think that this is without a doubt the greatest nation in the history of government. It's sickening, to the point that I'm sometimes ashamed to even share a nationality with them.
But, back on topic; I've been taking German in high school for the past 3 years, so I've heard a lot about this very subject. As you would expect, it pisses off a lot of Germans when Americans make these assumptions. There was a German exchange student that came to our school my freshman year, and one day she went to visit one of the local elementary schools, where they were free to ask her questions. She got very upset when they asked about stuff like Hitler and the Nazis, so much so that she had to leave. Those kids weren't even trying to make her angry, they were asking those questions seriously, which says a lot about what we teach kids about other cultures.