Get banned on your Xbox One? Say good-bye to your games!
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Sure, I mean, it's fine that you lose access to thousands of pounds of games because you called someone a rude word. That's a great system! Say rude word = All your games are gone. Awesome!Rex Dark said:
Better hope you're not from Fort Gay, Virginia though. Or your name is Richard Gaywood. Both are bannable offenses!
I can 100% confirm no, it is not the same. My old account got VAC banned, I could still player single player, but no multiplayer. And VAC bans are only for Valve games using Source, as far as I know, hacking in other companies games are dealt with by the devs themselves, you dont get platform wide bans for hacking.SSJBlastoise said:
I'm just disappointed that ANYONE is still defending the XBOne in the face of so much anti-consumer bullshit. Even if someone gets banned, that doesn't give Microsoft the right to deprive them of property that they paid for with their hard-earned fucking money.
This. As I keep saying, if people want to push this 'games as a service, not a product' stuff, they need to a) change their business model - if I pay £40 for a game I damn well want to be able to do what I like with it, and b} be prepared to have their games judged as services - even if the game is technically great, they should expect to get marked down if their service is sub-par.MeChaNiZ3D said:
Well, so long as the bannings are for fair reasons. Like insulting people's mothers and stuff.Professor Uzzy said:
about ppl saying only hacking will get you banned i had my gold linked to a card and i got robbed so i cancelled my card and didnt think about the card was linked to my gold account. so when the time came around for it to be updated it used my old card i cancelled and of course with there being no card they couldnt take the funds but they updated my gold anyway but never sent a message to me or anything.
fast forward 3 months and i got perma-banned and when i got hold of microsoft support they said i stole gold from them and when i explained my situation the support guy just said that it was my fault. So i never got my main account unbanned because of that senario and all because i had more important things to think about after have card robbed.
fast forward 3 months and i got perma-banned and when i got hold of microsoft support they said i stole gold from them and when i explained my situation the support guy just said that it was my fault. So i never got my main account unbanned because of that senario and all because i had more important things to think about after have card robbed.
I dont care how racist or shitty someone is. If your neighbor starts spouting racist nonsense its not suddenly legal to steal his lawnmower nor should it be. banning them from playing online I always thought was strict enough.
This isn't new, this was exactly the same on the 360, It's not easy getting banned you pretty much have to be a serial cheater.
Nope, hacking will result in a console ban but you can get your account banned for basically being an idiot. There was a great site for a while (domain is now for sale) that collected posts on the support forum from kids mostly asking what they were banned for. Hacking or modding the console results in a console ban, but the thirtieth time they have to ask you to change your name to something not racist means you get an account ban, which will basically turn into a library ban now.Little Gray said:
I got a suspension for putting something amusing in my bio info and i was stopped from using xbox live for a week. Funny thing was that they didn't suspend me paying for the service...the cheeky thieving bastards made me pay for a service they weren't providing me with. So it comes as no suprise to me that there is a potential way to steal games from me aswell...or there would be if there was any chance of me buying into the new xtvbox 
Same as steam?MeChaNiZ3D said:
You don't get banned from steam unless you do some serious stuff. Like illegal shit, such as scamming, hacking accounts, or threaten people. If you're just rude online or cheat in online games, you may get VAC banned. That just means you can't play on VAC protected servers. You can still play the games on unprotected servers, and doesn't affect the functionality of your steam account in any other way. You'll never lose your game library for cheating.
It should be... my neighbor has a nice lawnmower...rbstewart7263 said:
On Topic: I had a friend that didnt do anything on XBL, he was the nicest bugger you could have ever met. Yet about half way through my third year of college, I was at his dorm room, and we were going to play a game of Halo 3. For some reason, his account was banned. Took almost a week, but he got it unbanned (turns out he had a gamer-tag similar to another persons that was being a complete ass, and someone banned him by mistake.)
Point it, mistakes happen, and if that mistake results in you losing almost $1000 in games ($60 per game, thats at least 17 games, which may be a pretty average number for most people in the XBone era since you really cant trade or rent games anymore), than thats pretty fucked up.
Also... is it just me, or does anyone else feel that Sony is actually withholding information so as to see what Microsoft does or says, that gage the reaction and come out with something different?
why does anyone actually think this will reduce hacking and cheaters? all this is is another attempt to get the public to see games as a service, a privilege to be taken away by big brother should you upset him instead of a legally purchased product that they have no control over regardless of what an asshole you are online. this kind of punishment has never worked in the past, why would it work for hackers who are probably gonna figure out how to play the xbone offline anyway?
microsoft knows that. the punishment isnt the point, getting you to see your games as part of their service is.
microsoft knows that. the punishment isnt the point, getting you to see your games as part of their service is.
Isn't it against the law to get someone to agree to something that's illegal in a contract (Which is what a ToU is)? Because that's what they're doing here, you're agreeing to a practice that's illegal (the confiscation of legally bought merchandise, like disc-based games).
I can't remember when or where, but didn't a court rule recently that you own the games you buy, even digitally?
I can't remember when or where, but didn't a court rule recently that you own the games you buy, even digitally?
My thoughts precisely. The integration of more and more online, community, subscription and social network services is linking far too many things together, but this business is crossing the line between what should be two different things.Tarcolt said:
Purchasing a game is to own a product, no matter how much MS, EA and the like would like to convince us we're paying for a service. I can understand taking away a player's Live account (and multiplayer capabilities with it), but to take away single player games is, IMO, the equivalent to theft. To me, "theft" is the taking away of a legally paid for item which deprives the purchaser of it.
With the use of one-time keys on games, inability to trade, lend or resell, ability to take away purchased items, online requirements that can disable console features, MS have created a singularly anti-consumer product which gives them and their partners unrivalled power to dictate what we do with a console and games that WE own. Personally, I would never sign on to such a thing.
At this point, particularly considering that the PS4 is clearly more consumer friendly, cheaper and equally capable, I believe the "war" will be quite one sided. The only thing I can imagine shifting Xbox Threes will be its exclusives. But MS, like EA, are pretty much only after one demographic: the frat boys, the bros who watch "the game", drink from kegs and eat nachos and fried chicken wings. And those dudes will probably still buy it.
