Getting raped is like getting a flat tire. Also, it's God's will. Fancy that.
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Er...people vote them into office. Then when they come up for re-election, they vote them back into office. I highly doubt that both of these men won't be re-elected. That's just how the government (and voters!) work. At least, that's how it works in 'merica.Astoria said:
Well, mostly because more than 90% of politicos, old or otherwise, are men. Let's just say it doesn't help.Souplex said:
Ding, ding.Grospoliner said:
I was expecting to see this article on Huffington Post. Their reaction to reactionaries usually involves a heavy dose of interpretation in order to come up with a sensational headline. And they're usually the ones complaining about the inflammatory rhetoric and irrational hyberbole of Republicans or (ironically) the blatant bias of Fox News. Cool your jets, my fellow left-wingers. The chauvinism and class warfare coming out of this rash of new GOP politicians is triggering plenty of productive backlash without you having to look silly getting the word out.
And how does God creating Man, setting into motion all the future chain of events, rob him of his free will? I don't really follow that...pokepuke said:
Well then...I guess if the world is to end in 2012, the first sign will be that Kansas and Idaho get wiped off the earth in a hail of fire...kinda like Sodom and Gomorrah. (Just kidding...COME AT ME BRO!)
Though as soon as that happens, I'll be working on my giant wooden (surprisingly able to float) ship that shalt have 2 of every creature upon it. There shall be 2 of every species: 2 of every dog, 2 of every Tom Cruise and Charlie Sheen (SSSSSHUUUUSH! Don't Tell Nobody About The Clones), 2 of every Nyancat, and 2 of every Furry...UPON WENCE! WE SHALT REBUILD THE EARTH UPON THE FOUNDATION OF INTERNET MEMES!
(Hey don't be getting mad at me, it was that one official that said that Rape was a good thing and God willed it to happen, thus you must already know that up is down and black is white. Heck I'll even bet that rocks can talk and that the end of the world just got postponed this year).
(Note: Yes my sarcasm is vast...but can ya honestly blame me?)
Though as soon as that happens, I'll be working on my giant wooden (surprisingly able to float) ship that shalt have 2 of every creature upon it. There shall be 2 of every species: 2 of every dog, 2 of every Tom Cruise and Charlie Sheen (SSSSSHUUUUSH! Don't Tell Nobody About The Clones), 2 of every Nyancat, and 2 of every Furry...UPON WENCE! WE SHALT REBUILD THE EARTH UPON THE FOUNDATION OF INTERNET MEMES!
(Hey don't be getting mad at me, it was that one official that said that Rape was a good thing and God willed it to happen, thus you must already know that up is down and black is white. Heck I'll even bet that rocks can talk and that the end of the world just got postponed this year).
(Note: Yes my sarcasm is vast...but can ya honestly blame me?)
Or abortion insurance given that children can't afford basic medical....Damura said:
So, in Kansas, get your young daughter... abortion insurance.
Morality issues aside, abortion is a legal service in the state of Kansas, and the medical institutions have a means to pay for such already included in the system. The government does not have the right to interfere with this process simply because it does not like the legality of it.
If you don't like it, pass a law, make it illegal, and hope it stands up in the supreme court. Do not make it harder to attain for those who do not share the same religious beliefs as you. This is why I believe strongly in the separation of the church and the state; when the state passes laws based on religious tenets, it always acts as a means to suppress those who do not heed those tenets.
The only countries that have freedom of religion are those with freedom from religion.
This is why I make fun of America being sterotypically dumb....I am British stereotypically I drink tea 24/7 have the worst teeth on the planet and lots of other things I'm sure...
This whole article just shows dumbness... wear 7,000 layers of bubblewrap...You need to be prepared to get hit by a train or a car or even a pack of bulls....
Being raped is entirely circumstantial...If the female chooses to wear certain clothes, if they choose to go to different parts of town or whatever... I heard a dumb statistic that "4 in 10 women have been raped"....I will not believe that whatsoever....I won't even believe 1 in 10....1 in 20 or 1 in 30 seems more realistic to me. I have also heard that most rape victims are in college...this seems somewhat believable...but hey, I'm not in college nor am I a girl sooooo.....
This whole article just shows dumbness... wear 7,000 layers of bubblewrap...You need to be prepared to get hit by a train or a car or even a pack of bulls....
Being raped is entirely circumstantial...If the female chooses to wear certain clothes, if they choose to go to different parts of town or whatever... I heard a dumb statistic that "4 in 10 women have been raped"....I will not believe that whatsoever....I won't even believe 1 in 10....1 in 20 or 1 in 30 seems more realistic to me. I have also heard that most rape victims are in college...this seems somewhat believable...but hey, I'm not in college nor am I a girl sooooo.....
Well, I know I can't exactly assume all of Kansas is like that, but thanks to that guy I now have a reason to stay away.
This is the problem with having a bunch of men discussing women's issues. Considering that >10% of rape victims are male and male victims don't have to deal with pregnancy (and considering that males in general aren't conditioned to be in constant fear of being raped), men just don't have the education or personal experience to deal with this kind of subject.
And when you throw religion into the mix, it just becomes a shitshow.
And when you throw religion into the mix, it just becomes a shitshow.
The statistic is that 4 in 10 women will be sexually assaulted in their lifetimes, not raped. The statistic includes things like gropings but it's certainly not a made-up number. It's also a fallacy that women are more likely to be raped in certain kinds of clothing, though you're right that they're more likely to be assaulted while attending college/university. However that would mean with shouldn't attend post-secondary education by your logic, as we'd be bringing it upon ourselves by "choosing to go to that part of town"... which is absurd.Rule Britannia said:
It's not that it's wood, it's rather that I can barely operate basic power tools without damaging something. Plus I'm pretty sure that building a massive ship that can hold 2 of EVERYTHING would be kinda massive and heavy...and full of holes...I'll need to get Home Depot to help build this thing...Kopikatsu said:
I was about to feed him and then I remembered he's a troll (of the women hating variety)Kopikatsu said:
anyway my point was going to be "ever been raped?" because I think if you havnt been raped you have no right to besically say "oh cmon..it couldnt have been THAT bad" sure its worse for some than others..and people probably deal with it in different ways
Well, look at Wisconsin. The people got riled up enough to put together recalls, so what do the Republicans do? Start openly bragging about running fake candidates in said recalls to try and Fuck them up. There's no winning with people who believe that only they should be in charge.icame said:
On topic, that is just sickening. It's as bad as Sharon Angle saying that women who are raped should just make lemonade. Or Sarah PayMe making rape victims pay for their own rape kits.
Then again, when you hold the view that women are property, anything goes I guess.
You've rather missed the point.FarleShadow said:
It's not so much that he's suggesting rape is a random event, but that a large proportion of the population should actively spend time planning for the eventuality. It is also the context in which he's saying it, it pretty much comes down to 'expect to be raped, and then expect not to be able to do anything about it after the fact'.
The issue is not that he equates rape with a random event, but that his suggestion is that people should be prepared for it. I.e. that women should invest time into thinking about the
Which would be a very welcome fact if any demonstrable statistical or experiential equivallence held it up, but it doesn't. Rape is by definition not a gender neutral crime, it is fundamentally linked to the implicit power dynamics of male-female intercourse.FarleShadow said:
Having a penis put in you is consistently understood as a 'feminine' position, this applies whether the victim is male or female. Rape only works as a definition because it references the female body and its physical position within heterosexual intercourse, without the existence of that body male rape would be indistinct from any other painful assault. While this might be seen as an argument for the definition not to exist, there is an experiential lack of equivalence. Male rape is horrible, noone would deny it, it's not necessarily easier for the victim to process or deal with, but it's not the same thing and the way it is likely to be socially interpreted and experienced is very different.
Even if equivalence existed, neither the representative in question or the article are talking about male rape. They're talking about rape pregnancy, which male-bodied men don't generally have to worry about.