Getting tired of (certain) women.

[TheVioletBandit]

Also, have you considered that you might just be acting kind of creepy? Do you go around smiling at dudes?

Smile, nod, greet... it's normal here.

On the street?
How do you get shit done?

I can tell you, as a woman, its more annoying to have some random dude come up to you and start talking to you. Just cause I'm a lady doesn't mean I have to give a shit. (People always talk to me at bus stops. I hate it).

Yeah I hate it when people try to interact with me as well, or complement me, or acknowledge my existence. It's such an annoyance to be wanted, sought after, or liked. Ugly people think they have it hard? They don't know the half of it! Try being beautiful for a day; being adored by those you find repulsive, it's just so gross! One time I was at the bus stop and this BALD man complemented my long glorious blonde hair so I was like "uh, whatever" then I spit right in his face. How dare he speak to me! These uglies just don't understand what a total burden this is.

Someone is deeply butthurt.

Is that it? that's the whole of your argument? Someone is sadly basic and uncreative. At least tell me why you disagree with me, that is if you even disagree with me. For all I know your comment is one of mistaken empathy. Maybe your butt hurts most of all or your "butthurt" most of all? (however you use this made-up word). Anyway, Something about how painful your ass is. You may as well have just wrote "fail" or "u mad bro". I mean, come on! Put a little effort into you posts for fuck's sake. Actually, I take that back; if this is the kind of post you normally make I would hate to see the literary diarrhea you could come up with if you actually tried, so just forget I mentioned it.

I'll put some effort into my posts when you show the same level of respect to the person you responded to.

Wow, okay deal. Since it was never my intent to be disrespectful, but instead simply to use satire to make a point you'll need to start putting effort into your posts yesterday.

You didn't make a point. You merely demonstrated how butthurt you were by a woman's lack of attention.

Okay, let me explain my intention and then maybe, hopefully, we can move past this obsession you have with butt pain. It seemed to me that she was complaining about people wanting to talk to her, and this to me seemed to be a silly complaint, like saying, "I'm so tried of everyone liking me." It really had nothing to do with wanting anyone's attention, and I'm kind of unsure why you thought it was. Nevertheless, to "point" out how I thought this line of reasoning was amusing I posted an "exaggerated caricature" of her post. So, the "point" was simply satire that pointed out what I saw as petty, get it? Honestly, I'm starting to think that maybe your reaching out to me, like there has been some horrible butt trauma in you life, and now your projecting your own "butthurtness" onto my post as a desperate cry for help. I want to assure you once again that my butt is fine, it doesn't hurt, and is in complete working condition. Even so, if your butt hasn't been as fortunate as mine, and you need someone to talk to, I want you to know that I'm here for you.

 

[Smeatza]

If you want me to change my life because it doesn't conform to your standards of how I should act, then you have to present more compelling reasons than that.

Is smiling at everyone I meet hard to do (in the fear they'll think I'm rude or some crap)? Maybe, maybe not. Should I have to? No. Should people think less of me because I'm not smiling? No. These are the kinds of societal expectations created by insecure people that allow for fake pleasantries between folks who despise each other and the such like.

The best advice anyone can give you is to get over it. Nobody owes you anything. You still seem to think they do. They don't. Happiness should be something you experience for yourself, not because it's expected. Being polite should be done for its own sake, not because you expect it from others. Regardless, faking a certain emotional state should never be lumped in with "being civil/polite." It would be dishonest to conflate the two.

Why not try things my way and see if you don't enjoy it? It's pretty fun to experience and express emotions naturally to others.

This reminds me of people who say "excuse me" when they mean "move" and "sir" when they mean "you idiot." Lots of polite mannerisms to conceal underlying rudeness and selfishness.

I've read this post many times now and I'm struggling to understand it's point.

No you don't have to bother with social ettiquette if you don't want. You can scowl at a pensioner who offers a kindly smile and you can tell someone to "move" instead of saying "excuse me."
But isn't that just a lesson in how to be a douche?

I mean nobody is expecting you to walk down the street with a cheesy grin on your face, but if you make eye contact with somone, they smile and nod at you, and you just blank them. You're going to have to be prepared to be judged by them, and quite rightly so.
You snubbed them. It's not societal pressure, it's not a sense of being owed anything, it's very clear body language.

You call civility "faking a certain emotional state" but an animal or a child takes out it emotional state on the ones around it, human adults should be above that. To reserve your manners for only those you know or have something to offer you is selfish. And shows a lack of compassion for your fellow man.

There is a big difference between experiencing and expressing emotions naturally and a lack of restraint.

And if someone say's "move" to me instead of "excuse me" I simply wont. I do not take commands, I am not a dog, and I'm sure the majority of people would do the same.

 

[Oirish_Martin]

I'll put some effort into my posts when you show the same level of respect to the person you responded to.

Agreed 100%.

I try not to be a jealous tool, but when I hear stories about random complete strangers whistling, honking their car horns or pulling up and chatting with my girlfriend on the street, it pisses me off a little. Women should have a right to walk around town without being harassed by strangers, and those strangers have no right to act annoyed if she finds that attention creepy.

The hatred of men for attractive, often unavailable, extremely uninterested women is best classified as "butthurt."

Yeah, pretty much this.

The reason for the clash on this issue seems to me to be a lack of perspective. I'm sure most guys individually don't mean a girl any harm if they approach/smile/talk to her in the street. But for most girls this is a drop in the ocean - each individual guy isn't going to really get how frustrating it gets for girls getting unwanted attention in public frequently because all they know is their intentions, and those are honourable.

I can't believe it took as long as it did for me to recognise this, but once that penny drops you can't really ignore it. The core of it is - it's not just about you, the girl likely gets this all the time. (There can be a tendency for guys to get clobbered for this in discussions like this, so the happy medium for me was to acknowledge that when I did this sort of thing in the past my intentions were honourable, but that given the amount of unwanted attention girls get it was unreasonable to expect my advances to be appreciated nonetheless.)

 

[bullet_sandw1ch]

the way it is here (toronto, canada) if your'e nice and sweet to girls, they tend to like you, because nice, non-clubbing, straight up guys are desirable,like a diamond, and thats why so many girls appreciate me. i fit that category. if you want girls to warm up to you, you have to find what kind of guy they like.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

Yeah, pretty much this.

The reason for the clash on this issue seems to me to be a lack of perspective. I'm sure most guys individually don't mean a girl any harm if they approach/smile/talk to her in the street. But for most girls this is a drop in the ocean - each individual guy isn't going to really get how frustrating it gets for girls getting unwanted attention in public frequently because all they know is their intentions, and those are honorable.

I can't believe it took as long as it did for me to recognize this, but once that penny drops you can't really ignore it. The core of it is - it's not just about you, the girl likely gets this all the time. (There can be a tendency for guys to get clobbered for this in discussions like this, so the happy medium for me was to acknowledge that when I did this sort of thing in the past my intentions were honorable, but that given the amount of unwanted attention girls get it was unreasonable to expect my advances to be appreciated nonetheless.)

Yep. I also used to see things from this self-centered perspective of my own motivations, but every interaction has 2 or more perspectives. If I'm not willing to understand hers, I have no reason to expect her to get where I'm coming from. And there are things I can do (be honest and upfront about my intentions, and not impose my idea of "manners" on others) to be received more gracefully.

You really nailed it perfectly: lots of girls are just sick of attention from guys (believe it or not guys, girls don't dress nice JUST FOR YOU 100% of the time) and want to go about their day.

I think it can be summed up with "girls are people too." I remember hearing somewhere that there are two ways of dehumanizing a person: by degrading them, or by elevating (idolizing) them.