You have a point, I mean trailers aren't supposed to sell the idea of a movie in a couple of minutes using short clips of some of the films "best moments", that would just be ridiculous. No, they just show the very worst parts to set up low expectations so that we are all incredibly surprised when the film is actually released, so indeed if a trailer shows only the worst parts and all I think is mediocre then that is clearly indicative of a really good film.
Someone's had a go at recutting the trailer, and it actually now looks like a movie I would want to see:
Amazing what a difference the soundtrack makes. It's like with the Suicide Squad movie, which has managed to reinvent itself as a quirky fun movie via a bit of Queen. Makes you wonder how useful trailers actually are.
Trailers are supposed to be the best foot forward without revealing much. A lot of trailers are terrible, admittedly, because they reveal a lot and what they do reveal may not be accurate. See the trailers for Unbreakable and The Village. Arguably, the negative feedback the movies got was because the trailers set up the wrong expectations. Then some trailers are just lacklustre as compared to others, such as the trailers for Alien versus Aliens.
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Come to think of it, maybe the issues with a lot of trailers is the cookie-cutter one-size-fits-all approach. Generally the marketing division makes the decisions regarding trailers and they may not see what an individual movie has to offer. As such, this trailer seemed to be aiming for the Jurassic World trailer.
To be fair, Melissa McCarthy has never done a good movie, so to expect anything but absolute dogshit is simply unreasonable. Its like expecting Shia Labeouf not to be a jackass, or Felicia Day to not remind everyone she's a chick-nerd.
To be fair, Melissa McCarthy has never done a good movie, so to expect anything but absolute dogshit is simply unreasonable. Its like expecting Shia Labeouf not to be a jackass, or Felicia Day to not remind everyone she's a chick-nerd.
I had to turn it off. It may have gotten better, but after the first 40 or so mins I hadn't laughed. At any of the jokes. I'll save you the pain, so I'll just spoil the jokes. Melissa McCarthy is fat and awkward and falls down. And if that sentence doesn't make you laugh out loud, you won't enjoy the movie.
How dare you criticize this! It's an all female cast therefore we must sing its praises or we are sexist assholes!
Ok ok, I'm sorry I couldn't help but make another poke at idiotic feminazi's whining about stupid BS, but yeah OT this looks god damn terrible, I'm just glad the rest of the world seems to think so
To be fair, Melissa McCarthy has never done a good movie, so to expect anything but absolute dogshit is simply unreasonable. Its like expecting Shia Labeouf not to be a jackass, or Felicia Day to not remind everyone she's a chick-nerd.
Shia LaBeouf was actually pretty good in Fury. Just saying.
Even bad/mediocre actors can have great individual roles every now and then. It just kinda depends. Keep in mind, the production team behind this is largely made up of people from the original Ghostbusters. My hope is that some of that will carry over in the finished product.
What I'd really love is a reboot of Evolution, because I still maintain that Evolution is an underrated gem of a movie
To be fair, Melissa McCarthy has never done a good movie, so to expect anything but absolute dogshit is simply unreasonable. Its like expecting Shia Labeouf not to be a jackass, or Felicia Day to not remind everyone she's a chick-nerd.
I thought it was all right. The best part was definitely Jason Statham, who basically played a parody of himself.
However, the movie dragged on WAY too long (it clocked in at 2 hours, which for me is about 20 mins longer than any comedy should be), it had a scene where Melissa McCarthy turns into some sort of kung-fu fighting bad-ass that was so hysterically bad it looked like the scene where the fat black guy does the somersault in "Old School" (except the 'Old School' scene was actually funny), and they tried to spin some sort of romance between McCarthy and McGregor that was less believable than Anakin and Padme.
Also, that movie benefited from being rated R, which I'm assuming 'Ghostbusters' won't be.
rcs619 said:
What I'd really love is a reboot of Evolution, because I still maintain that Evolution is an underrated gem of a movie
Someone's had a go at recutting the trailer, and it actually now looks like a movie I would want to see:
Amazing what a difference the soundtrack makes. It's like with the Suicide Squad movie, which has managed to reinvent itself as a quirky fun movie via a bit of Queen. Makes you wonder how useful trailers actually are.
I was skeptical that the fan cut remake could salvage the trailer, but you're right, that was much better. Still not inspired by any stretch of the definition, but not as cringe-inducing as the original trailer. At least got the tone right.
I thought the trailer was woeful. I like trailers...I think they're an art form in and of themselves...and it always distresses me (mildly) when they're bungled. I was strongly reminded of the "Pixels" trailer in tone, which (rather alarmingly) was quite a bit more entertaining.
Mind you, I've always been of the opinion that this was a bad idea. Ghostbusters 3 was a bad idea regardless of who starred in it, which is why people (other than Dan Aykroyd, bless his heart) spent so much time and energy shutting it down. Ghostbusters 2 was made with an all-star cast of comic legends, many of whom were at peak popularity and the top of their craft. It was a horrible film. "Ghostbusters" is not a can't miss concept. The original film looks and feels more like a happy accident with every passing year.
I actually like Wiig a lot, and thought she paired well with McCarthy in Bridesmaids (yes, I realize this thread hates her, but I enjoyed the film). The casting seems fine. The general idea (Ghostbusters, only this time women) seems thin on the ground. It's just so...insubstantial. There's nothing there to hang anything on. There is the distinct whiff of potential impending catastrophe. We'll see, I guess.
shrekfan246 said:
Yeah, after seeing the like:dislike ratio on the trailer for the new film, I should've known better than to even bother talking about this on the internet.
Even the people who aren't so blinded by their hatred for "feminism" that they went off the rails at the thought of Ghostbusters having a female cast are getting their knee-jerk on because "BUT MY CHILDHOOD".
Come now. Remakes of this nature trend towards the creatively bankrupt at the best of times. This one in particular has been in contentious talks for a couple of decades, and for good reason. Just as "An all women cast" should never be a reason to dismiss a film, it's also not a reason to reflexively defend it. That's how we ended up with "Orange is the New Black" being sold as a hot new show when it was really warmed over pudding with a refreshingly diverse cast and virtually nothing else to recommend it.
It's true, you've already failed to acknowledge the rest of my post, and you've refused to acknowledge my previous statement of your broad generalizations, so I guess you're in the habit of not acknowledging things that are apparent and right in front of your face, no, you clearly feel far more compelled to cherry pick someone's phrasing instead. Since you seem to have no reservations when it comes to overreaching conjecture about people and their posts, your reluctance to simply hold an opinion on how you think a movie might turn out just kind of comes off as willful obstinance. Oh well, I suppose it's natural since you're far more interesting in forwarding your own biased opinions of others rather than having a simple speculative conversation about a film.
Lots of trailers suck, naturally, since advertising to everyone in a short period of time is a compromise. Now I'll just let you get back to hating a movie you haven't seen.
Calling something mediocre and boring is considered hatred now? Standards have truly dropped, back in my day we could be indifferent to a thing and no one would accuse of being a hater.
Even the people who aren't so blinded by their hatred for "feminism" that they went off the rails at the thought of Ghostbusters having a female cast are getting their knee-jerk on because "BUT MY CHILDHOOD".
Hollywood has been pillaging the 80's in the pursuit of a quick buck for the past decade, and now that they've sunk their rusty hooks into Ghostbusters it's understandable that people are a bit cynical about it. And after that putrid trailer, it's outright worthy of applause that so many people are saying 'No, fuck you Hollywood. This sucks.'
To me this is something beyond a trainwreck. Its like watching graphic testicle removal surgery after horrible trauma to said area... something I wouldn't want to do no matter how much I was being paid.
Even the people who aren't so blinded by their hatred for "feminism" that they went off the rails at the thought of Ghostbusters having a female cast are getting their knee-jerk on because "BUT MY CHILDHOOD".
Hollywood has been pillaging the 80's in the pursuit of a quick buck for the past decade, and now that they've sunk their rusty hooks into Ghostbusters it's understandable that people are a bit cynical about it. And after that putrid trailer, it's outright worthy of applause that so many people are saying 'No, fuck you Hollywood. This sucks.'
Have we been on different internets for the past ten years?
I don't mean to be dismissive or mocking of what you said, but literally every reboot or sequel to a "beloved classic" gets this treatment, at least from what I've seen. People aren't exactly breaking the mold by saying that this is the worst thing in the history of humanity since the last thing that was the worst thing.
I'm not saying the trailer is particularly good, just that the reactions it has caused from the internet are really bloody overblown considering that it's not particularly worse than the trailer for the original film. At least not from a "this is a raucous, exciting, laugh-out-loud affair that I have to go see right now!" perspective; this trailer might have made me cringe a bit more than the 1984 one, but it also got the same number of chuckles out of me.
The worst thing I have to say about this trailer is that it just feels like a normal modern action-comedy movie. Maybe that's damning in itself, because oh hey, it's supposed to be Ghostbusters I guess? This is why I don't pay any attention to pre-release stuff for games, either, because the judging that gets thrown around has to be either one extreme or the other, and nobody can ever be content just waiting until they actually experience something firsthand. I get that trailers are supposed to sell things to us so that we want to experience them, and sure, this might do a poor job of it for certain people, but if there's one thing that gamers of all people should know by now it's that trailers aren't necessarily always representative of how a final product will turn out.
Also, I'm really just sick and tired of people turning everything into endless bitching about feminism, and people have been using this as ammo for how "feminism ruins everything" since it was announced.
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